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Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:03:00 - [31] Nobody loses. Make it too expensive for all but the most expensive of items. You won't be pushing ammo and ships through it. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Nobody loses. Make it too expensive for all but the most expensive of items. You won't be pushing ammo and ships through it. you are being foolish interbus hauling items is unnecessary because couriers do the job fine insurance provided by players does not make money so it can not and will not be offered in a legit way publicly if it makes money no one would take out the insurance because they would be losing money if it doesnt make money no one would offer insurance because they would be losing money couriers do lots of jobs for various prices and everyone makes money if you do things right - insurance is not the same ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:16:00 - [33] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Nobody loses. Make it too expensive for all but the most expensive of items. You won't be pushing ammo and ships through it. you are being foolish interbus hauling items is unnecessary because couriers do the job fine insurance provided by players does not make money so it can not and will not be offered in a legit way publicly if it makes money no one would take out the insurance because they would be losing money if it doesnt make money no one would offer insurance because they would be losing money couriers do lots of jobs for various prices and everyone makes money if you do things right - insurance is not the same No, couriers fail because nobody wants to move a courier for the worthless prices people will pay. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:20:00 - [34] Edited by: SiJira on 08/12/2007 13:20:31 Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Quote: couriers everyone makes money if you do things right No, couriers fail because nobody wants to move a courier for the worthless prices people will pay. i deleted everything from the post to give you another attempt at understanding that point ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:22:00 - [35] Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 08/12/2007 13:20:31 Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Quote: couriers everyone makes money if you do things right No, couriers fail because nobody wants to move a courier for the worthless prices people will pay. i deleted everything from the post to give you another attempt at understanding that point For the last time, that doesnt make sense, because PEOPLE WONT DO IT RIGHT. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:31:00 - [36] people do do it right if your couriers arent moving you arent paying enough if it isnt worth paying more then you arent moving enough and you just answered why insurance cant work Originally by: Admiral Pelleon because PEOPLE WONT DO IT RIGHT. ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:43:00 - [37] Originally by: SiJira people do do it right if your couriers arent moving you arent paying enough if it isnt worth paying more then you arent moving enough and you just answered why insurance cant work Originally by: Admiral Pelleon because PEOPLE WONT DO IT RIGHT. no, alts are too common for this to actually happen--put items on itty 5 alt, autopilot, tab out and resume playing on your main ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:50:00 - [38] Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: SiJira people do do it right if your couriers arent moving you arent paying enough if it isnt worth paying more then you arent moving enough and you just answered why insurance cant work Originally by: Admiral Pelleon because PEOPLE WONT DO IT RIGHT. no, alts are too common for this to actually happen--put items on itty 5 alt, autopilot, tab out and resume playing on your main so you are saying hauling is easy? doesnt that reduce your interbus item hauling argument? ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:51:00 - [39] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: SiJira people do do it right if your couriers arent moving you arent paying enough if it isnt worth paying more then you arent moving enough and you just answered why insurance cant work Originally by: Admiral Pelleon because PEOPLE WONT DO IT RIGHT. no, alts are too common for this to actually happen--put items on itty 5 alt, autopilot, tab out and resume playing on your main so you are saying hauling is easy? doesnt that reduce your interbus item hauling argument? No, it just makes it easier for those without alts to go through the trouble of setting couriers up to a third party who may or may not actually complete the contract. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:55:00 - [40] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: SiJira people do do it right if your couriers arent moving you arent paying enough if it isnt worth paying more then you arent moving enough and you just answered why insurance cant work Originally by: Admiral Pelleon because PEOPLE WONT DO IT RIGHT. no, alts are too common for this to actually happen--put items on itty 5 alt, autopilot, tab out and resume playing on your main so you are saying hauling is easy? doesnt that reduce your interbus item hauling argument? eve is exceptional among all the games I've ever played in that to be effective you must have multiple accounts--does this mean hauling is easy? no, it means the game is flawed in not having better item mechanics in the first place and second for encouraging multiboxing as a short term solution to it I suppose you could call it a tax on people who don't want multiple accounts to have basic functionality in the game including hauling but also applies to capital ships, generic scouting, and science skills ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.08 14:15:00 - [41] Edited by: SiJira on 08/12/2007 14:15:49 Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Erotic Irony no, alts are too common for this to actually happen--put items on itty 5 alt, autopilot, tab out and resume playing on your main so you are saying hauling is easy? doesnt that reduce your interbus item hauling argument? No, it just makes it easier for those without alts to go through the trouble of setting couriers up to a third party who may or may not actually complete the contract. if they dont complete the contract the collateral should be more than the items are worth and thus you profit ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.08 14:17:00 - [42] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: SiJira people do do it right if your couriers arent moving you arent paying enough if it isnt worth paying more then you arent moving enough and you just answered why insurance cant work Originally by: Admiral Pelleon because PEOPLE WONT DO IT RIGHT. no, alts are too common for this to actually happen--put items on itty 5 alt, autopilot, tab out and resume playing on your main so you are saying hauling is easy? doesnt that reduce your interbus item hauling argument? No, it just makes it easier for those without alts to go through the trouble of setting couriers up to a third party who may or may not actually complete the contract. if they dont complete the contract the collateral should be more than the items are worth and thus you profit And what if you're moving a Core X-type rep, or an estemels booster? Sitting in the lag on a gate isnt a good option, just waiting for you to get scanned and ganked. Also, nobody is going to front that ISK to move an item like that. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.08 14:17:00 - [43] Originally by: Erotic Irony eve is exceptional among all the games I've ever played in that to be effective you must have multiple accounts--does this mean hauling is easy? no, it means the game is flawed in not having better item mechanics in the first place and second for encouraging multiboxing as a short term solution to it I suppose you could call it a tax on people who don't want multiple accounts to have basic functionality in the game including hauling but also applies to capital ships, generic scouting, and science skills no one told you to get a second account youll spend a lot less time-rl money-isk if you just pay more for your couriers and like i said earlier if your items arent worth paying more to courier then get more items ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.08 14:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon And what if you're moving a Core X-type rep, or an estemels booster? Sitting in the lag on a gate isnt a good option, just waiting for you to get scanned and ganked. Also, nobody is going to front that ISK to move an item like that. no one knows what they will be hauling until they do it you should haul it yourself if you are scared of it getting destroyed making a non player mechanic is not the solution if it can get ganked what did it solve? ah it just removed the player if it cant get ganked then it removes the risk from the game the opposite of what ccp is making this game - and until recently i would have agreed with the response you will give to this that ccp is making the game softer but the compression and carrier hauling nerf says otherwise ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.08 14:23:00 - [45] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Admiral Pelleon And what if you're moving a Core X-type rep, or an estemels booster? Sitting in the lag on a gate isnt a good option, just waiting for you to get scanned and ganked. Also, nobody is going to front that ISK to move an item like that. no one knows what they will be hauling until they do it They will with the collateral you should haul it yourself if you are scared of it getting destroyed Not everyone has a hauling alt, or wants to sit dysnced outside the station being scanned. making a non player mechanic is not the solution if it can get ganked what did it solve? ah it just removed the player if it cant get ganked then it removes the risk from the game the opposite of what ccp is making this game - and until recently i would have agreed with the response you will give to this that ccp is making the game softer but the compression and carrier hauling nerf says otherwise TBH I'm not a huge supporter, and don't care one way or the other. It'd just be a nice feature that people could use without having to deal with a third party. ________ "It's a good day to die!"
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.12.08 14:27:00 - [46] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Admiral Pelleon And what if you're moving a Core X-type rep, or an estemels booster? Sitting in the lag on a gate isnt a good option, just waiting for you to get scanned and ganked. Also, nobody is going to front that ISK to move an item like that. no one knows what they will be hauling until they do it you should haul it yourself if you are scared of it getting destroyed making a non player mechanic is not the solution if it can get ganked what did it solve? ah it just removed the player if it cant get ganked then it removes the risk from the game the opposite of what ccp is making this game - and until recently i would have agreed with the response you will give to this that ccp is making the game softer but the compression and carrier hauling nerf says otherwise anecdotally I believe the dev rhetoric was that they wouldn't be space hearthstones but actually destructible ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.08 15:05:00 - [47] Originally by: Erotic Irony anecdotally I believe the dev rhetoric was that they wouldn't be space hearthstones but actually destructible another way to say that they wont do it if they are looking into it - the most likely solution is a better visibility on courier contracts ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.12.09 05:32:00 - [48] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Erotic Irony anecdotally I believe the dev rhetoric was that they wouldn't be space hearthstones but actually destructible another way to say that they wont do it if they are looking into it - the most likely solution is a better visibility on courier contracts EVERETT Pete, the personal rancor reflected in that remark I don't intend to dignify with comment, but I would like to address your general attitude of hopeless negativism. Consider the lilies a the goddamn field, or-hell!- take a look at Delmar here as your paradigm a hope. DELMAR Yeah, look at me. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul

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