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Riho
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Posted - 2007.12.08 16:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Johnie Cyno
what the reasoning behind nerfing torps and siege launchers?
nerf ??
no nerf.
range got balanced to tbe inline whit other short range missiles like rockets and hams.
cruise missiles - long range large
heavy missiles - long range medium
light missiles - long range light
siege - short range large
HAM - short range medium
rockets - short range light
the rate of fire and overall damage of torps was allso increased (torp rof is alot faster than cruise now)
so tell me again how is this a nerf (its rather a balancing + huge boost to caldari pvp)
if you do missions whit torps... to bad.. use cruise... its just as good
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Riho
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Posted - 2007.12.08 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kaben
Their range was reduced but the damage was increased, so voila, a raven can now do sweet damage at 30klicks away. The only ship this really hurts is a phoon if it's fitted with torps.
my phoon disagrees whit you 100% :)
my phoon is now good enough to pvp :)
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Riho
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Posted - 2007.12.08 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Johnie Cyno
ok, sorry. i read it as 'plus' 25% Rof :) and i didn't know the torps got a dps increase. nice!
aye.. plus mean its faster.. but yeah.. u could have read that its slower :P
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Riho
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Posted - 2007.12.08 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Acoco Osiris
Originally by: Kaben
Their range was reduced but the damage was increased, so voila, a raven can now do sweet damage at 30klicks away. The only ship this really hurts is a phoon if it's fitted with torps.
Damage was not actually increased, it was a RoF boost. Anyways, as I've said before, I agree with the principle, but I think that CCP went just a tad overboard with the change. Really, I think they should have at least 50% more range than HAMs, Javelin torps worth a damn, and maybe an edge cut off the RoF boost.
dunno.. my torps are hitting for ALOT more than before patch. i never hit someone for 500 whit t1 torps in pvp :P
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Riho
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Posted - 2007.12.08 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Scott Logan
Edited by: Scott Logan on 08/12/2007 17:33:38
If the changes made to torps were brought in to bring them into line with other unguided missiles why does a torp still do more damage than a cruise missile?
Lights hits harder than rockets, heavy's harder than HAM's - surely a cruise should now hit harder? The rof of torp lauchers has gone up, and both rockets and HAM's have similar advantages over there guided couterparts. So why is there no change to cruise or a reduction in damage for torps?
heavys dont hit harder than HAMs ???
hams do more dps and hit harder
and lights out dps rockers only if use assault launchers.
i see no problems here
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Riho
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Posted - 2007.12.08 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Acoco Osiris
Originally by: Riho
Originally by: Scott Logan
Edited by: Scott Logan on 08/12/2007 17:33:38
If the changes made to torps were brought in to bring them into line with other unguided missiles why does a torp still do more damage than a cruise missile?
Lights hits harder than rockets, heavy's harder than HAM's - surely a cruise should now hit harder? The rof of torp lauchers has gone up, and both rockets and HAM's have similar advantages over there guided couterparts. So why is there no change to cruise or a reduction in damage for torps?
heavys dont hit harder than HAMs ???
hams do more dps and hit harder
and lights out dps rockers only if use assault launchers.
i see no problems here
I think he means alpha. The other short-range missiles are characterized by quick RoF, low damage, so the long-range ones actually hit harder (but fire a lot slower, resulting in lower net DPS). Torps are the other way around, both slower-firing and higher-damage than cruises.
no i mean dps...
Hams hit harder(more dps allso) and have faster rof than heavys
rocets have higher dps and faster rof only.. alpha is lower
torps have higher alpha and higher rof + hit lot harder
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