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Tekla
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:09:00 -
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Since there's not much going on atm, I'm wondering who is the best fleet commander that you've fought under or against? Somebody under whose command you feel confident, or alternatively an enemy whose abilities you respect(and fear )
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Alynthir
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:13:00 -
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I've run the show a few times, but the best I've ever fought under was/is Synapse of Everlasting Vendetta. He is a very cool customer on TS2 and seems to have a firm grasp of what is going on at all times. He is an excellent fleet commander.
Bach and Scragg were also both excellent PvP commanders, but they are on a bit of a vacation at the moment.  _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau
"Permanent = Today's Plan."
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:15:00 -
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Ehm, isn't it a very bad idea to tell your enemy who the highest ranking commander is?
So I'll not answer that :p
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Alynthir
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:21:00 -
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Quote: Ehm, isn't it a very bad idea to tell your enemy who the highest ranking commander is?
So I'll not answer that :p
/emote looks at Dalman's 'Military Commander' signature block.
Of course. How silly of me.  _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau
"Permanent = Today's Plan."
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:23:00 -
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I would have to say Duke Droklar (but then I am biased of course). 
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Tweety
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:29:00 -
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Well how can Synepse be the best fleet commander when he never fights the CA with SA ?? I have never even seen a EV fighting with SA forces before
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:35:00 -
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Quote:
/emote looks at Dalman's 'Military Commander' signature block.
Of course. How silly of me. 
Hehe, yea But I already feel the love of CA. I usually get a good ammount of CA shooting at me, or they decide to jam me. Like the last big fight in u-q, got 9 of them attacking me there. Or the fight before that in V2, where they had 3 specific ECM, 4 multispectral ECM and 2 sensor dampeners on me.

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Alynthir
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:36:00 -
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Quote: Well how can Synepse be the best fleet commander when he never fights the CA with SA ?? I have never even seen a EV fighting with SA forces before
Who the heck are you? Try mounting something other than a Miner 2 on your ship before you try to talk about the compostition of enemy forces. 
Besides, the original poster asked for opinions. I gave mine. If you're not going to contribute to the thread, don't post. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau
"Permanent = Today's Plan."
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Zodiack
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Zodiack on 11/03/2004 14:37:01
Quote: I would have to say Duke Droklar (but then I am biased of course). 
Trying to suck up to Duke will still not gain you access to the Blueprints... NO SOUP FOR YOU!!
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:37:00 -
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Quote: Well how can Synepse be the best fleet commander when he never fights the CA with SA ?? I have never even seen a EV fighting with SA forces before
Get out of your belt...
Synapse is indeed a very good commander. but i dont want to name more 
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Alynthir
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:39:00 -
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Quote:
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/emote looks at Dalman's 'Military Commander' signature block.
Of course. How silly of me. 
Hehe, yea But I already feel the love of CA. I usually get a good ammount of CA shooting at me, or they decide to jam me. Like the last big fight in u-q, got 9 of them attacking me there. Or the fight before that in V2, where they had 3 specific ECM, 4 multispectral ECM and 2 sensor dampeners on me.

Dalman, I know what you mean. I'm pretty sure that when the frigate fight kicks off, CA will thank me for suggesting it by making sure to send about 200 heavy missiles my way.  _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau
"Permanent = Today's Plan."
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Lord Zith
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Zith on 11/03/2004 14:39:54 I ll just say that there is 1-2 good fleet commanders in SA and Synnapse is neither them 
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Perdita X
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:44:00 -
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You know, this could be a nice civil "pat-on-the-back", respect your opponent thread... ------ .sig? I don't need no steenking .sig! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:46:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Lord Zith on 11/03/2004 14:39:54 I ll just say that there is 1-2 good fleet commanders in SA and Synnapse is neither them 
Isn't Collective SA? Great show of support there. 
As for me, I don't fly in 'fleets' but drunkenmaster is fun to talk to on TS while waiting on the next customer. 
What about people you have faced guys? Whom among the enemy makes you go "Uh oh!"? -
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:48:00 -
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MEMEMEMEMEMEME
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Tekla
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Posted - 2004.03.11 14:51:00 -
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Quote: What about people you have faced guys? Whom among the enemy makes you go "Uh oh!"?
Yeah, I'd like to hear that. The "Oh crap, looks like we'll be mining tomorrow" feeling just before I soil my ectoplasm 
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 11/03/2004 15:04:25 im the best... but i dont have any1 to command!!! 
"We brake for nobody"
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:03:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Zodiack on 11/03/2004 14:37:01
Quote: I would have to say Duke Droklar (but then I am biased of course). 
Trying to suck up to Duke will still not gain you access to the Blueprints... NO SOUP FOR YOU!!
Stick to the subject you annoying little SA troll.
And for your comment I have no need for any other BP's than ones I already got (and if I need them I'll buy them myself).
Learn to read the subject line before posting idiot.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:13:00 -
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The best fleet commander in the game ever must surely be Teelmaster of m0o corp. See, everyone thinks that Rev, Sass, or myself is always in charge when in fact we are all under control of the military genius that is The Teelmaster. Maybe you might all wanna consider that when choosing your next target in any fleet engagement you may have with m0o corp. 
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:14:00 -
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Quote: The best fleet commander in the game ever must surely be Teelmaster of m0o corp. See, everyone thinks that Rev, Sass, or myself is always in charge when in fact we are all under control of the military genius that is The Teelmaster. Maybe you might all wanna consider that when choosing your next target in any fleet engagement you may have with m0o corp. 
nope sorry zap, you're still first target 
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:16:00 -
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Omniwar from m0o would be the person I would least like to see alive in an opposing fleet.
Not that I want him dead, I just want me alive :)
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:23:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: The best fleet commander in the game ever must surely be Teelmaster of m0o corp. See, everyone thinks that Rev, Sass, or myself is always in charge when in fact we are all under control of the military genius that is The Teelmaster. Maybe you might all wanna consider that when choosing your next target in any fleet engagement you may have with m0o corp. 
nope sorry zap, you're still first target 

/emote dusts off set of cap relays and shield hardeners
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:26:00 -
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I think hupa, Havocide and Molle are pretty good fleetcommanders. It's been a long time since I've fought together with Molle though.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:27:00 -
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Quote: /emote dusts off set of cap relays and shield hardeners
hehe i bet shrike can help you with a decent setup for that . It's just one of the disadvantages of being a well known player. People always wanna brag about having your corpse. 
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:28:00 -
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Quote: I think hupa, Havocide and Molle are pretty good fleetcommanders. It's been a long time since I've fought together with Molle though.
Hmmm, hupa and havo are good fleet commanders for F-E, but they only use the tactics given to them by Exzodier, he is the true mastermind.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:37:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: I think hupa, Havocide and Molle are pretty good fleetcommanders. It's been a long time since I've fought together with Molle though.
Hmmm, hupa and havo are good fleet commanders for F-E, but they only use the tactics given to them by Exzodier, he is the true mastermind.

Ahh, Exzodier who fell right into our trap in Obe? Should have used torps to get the pod really...
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:43:00 -
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hupa, back in the EPA days he was ffffing brilliant. dont know about these days tho 
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:45:00 -
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Duke Droklar - few of his barons also ;).
As for the enemy, well it's a tough one, probably the guy leading The Collective, their a well organised bunch. TRIGGER seems to be in command of a lot of the large SA fleets that make incursions into to curse, not sure if he is the commander though.
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Tamish
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Posted - 2004.03.11 15:52:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Lord Zith on 11/03/2004 14:39:54 I ll just say that there is 1-2 good fleet commanders in SA and Synnapse is neither them 
I suppose only collective can command fleets? As for the guy saying EV don't fight with SA you need to realise not everyone is US PST time based.
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Cer'es
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Posted - 2004.03.11 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Cer'es on 11/03/2004 16:14:38 i vote for the nublar queen, StiZum Hilidii
since i have fought beside him and hes a smashing chap at arranging the nublars ------------------------------ .Flamenco Haggis. Once a pround member of Xanadu Member of Mercury and Solace [MACE] Currently proud member of ATUK Mon then ya bas!!! |

Havocide
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Posted - 2004.03.11 16:14:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote: I think hupa, Havocide and Molle are pretty good fleetcommanders. It's been a long time since I've fought together with Molle though.
Hmmm, hupa and havo are good fleet commanders for F-E, but they only use the tactics given to them by Exzodier, he is the true mastermind.

Ahh, Exzodier who fell right into our trap in Obe? Should have used torps to get the pod really...
yes you should have, woulda done us all a favour 
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Jebba IV
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Posted - 2004.03.11 16:14:00 -
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synapse all the way
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limpy bint
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Posted - 2004.03.11 16:17:00 -
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God damn we have so many good ones, hupa, havo, darwin, dontius and probably a few others i've forgotten atm. Always liked omniwar from m0o but tbh i dont know who most the fleet commanders from moo/evol PA, FA etc so I cant really give credit to them for the battles we fought against each other.
Oh and ofc Exzodier a true tactical genious =)
limpy bint
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Slam
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Posted - 2004.03.11 16:42:00 -
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Stan (Xan) is pretty good but more to the point: his quotes on the eve of battle are priceless.
Especially that quote from "Gangs of new york" (I think) one time before we warped in to utter destruction by m0o was classic.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.03.11 16:54:00 -
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For me it depends on the situation. For skirmishes I prefer Lallante or Chowdown. For the big engagements its gotta be Duke Droklar or Xirtamvotf. I don't fight with [OC] much though because I find their level of discipline a little too intimidating (its like you are in the real military!). --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |

Killing Machine
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Posted - 2004.03.11 17:14:00 -
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Yes this is an alt:
But the tops I've flown with in no particular order:
Some MASS guys: Trigger Zeal Dragon GFLTorque
Several in The Collective: Khoulkkh and a few others...
Specter (Duke) Thirdstorm Rampage
As for EV let me just say this, Never has so rich and large a corp done so little. I am still amazed how so many in EVE think EV is a military force to be reckoned with. This is not meant as an insult - just the facts. EV is after one thing, and one thing only - Making EV more rich. Back in the days when all SA corps shared bp's, EV came in and said they would too ... "for a fee." Many of the older SA corps were not happy with EV's actions vs Omega, but they supported SA over any one corp.
EV as a power in the game in EVE is a joke. If you dont believe me ask Con Mal, or Joshua. Funny, they sure distanced thereselves from EV isnt it?
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.11 17:15:00 -
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Quote: For me it depends on the situation. For skirmishes I prefer Lallante or Chowdown. For the big engagements its gotta be Duke Droklar or Xirtamvotf. I don't fight with [OC] much though because I find their level of discipline a little too intimidating (its like you are in the real military!).
Only in combat tho.
:p Reverend Necrona |

kisula
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Posted - 2004.03.11 17:16:00 -
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At present Synapse hands down
before-Claveman but you had to be on TS with him to really appreciate it
and Lord Zit wouldnt know a fleet commander if it bit him in the ass- lol no offence meant of course
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2004.03.11 17:21:00 -
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Quote: At present Synapse hands down
before-Claveman but you had to be on TS with him to really appreciate it
Aint that the truth, clave rocked, in certain respects. Though he did have the need to have overwealming force all the time :)
From what I heard Synapse has been the only real effective fleet commander in Sa recently, trigger is an ass, in my oppinion, wahoo not being in EV anymore i can say it muhaha. Though from actual experiance;
Id say shrike is one of the best, knows his stuff, wins engagements that seeem weighted against him.
-AJ-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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Lord Zith
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Posted - 2004.03.11 17:46:00 -
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Quote:
and Lord Zit wouldnt know a fleet commander if it bit him in the ass- lol no offence meant of course
lol Atleast i fight 
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2004.03.11 18:13:00 -
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Stan aka StiZum Hilidii because his badger song is famous and he usually ensures that all get out alive (some claim unlike him who has the tendency to die but those are just rumors)
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.11 18:23:00 -
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Did stan come up with "badger, badger, badger, badger, badger.. MUSHROOM MUSHROOM" etc.?
If so - OMG GIVE ME HIS AUTOGRAPH Reverend Necrona |

HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.03.11 18:28:00 -
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I don't like big battles so I won't call any names there... As for the more small skirmishes (4-12 ppl), I like The Monk or Chowdown as fleet commander.
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Casius
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Posted - 2004.03.11 18:34:00 -
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Killing Machine why dont u post with your alt and stop hiding?
Can u give me 1 good reason why u would post with an alt and not your main char?
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Killing Machine
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Posted - 2004.03.11 18:50:00 -
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Quote: Killing Machine why dont u post with your alt and stop hiding?
Can u give me 1 good reason why u would post with an alt and not your main char?
(1) I still deal with EV on occasion with trades. While these are my opnions, I dont desire them to have a negative effect on my trading. Some less then mature ppl "might" not respect my right to my own opinion.
There, one good reason.
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JoKane
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Posted - 2004.03.11 19:20:00 -
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He who shouts loudest on TS is the commander, but if Xirtam is in the gang noone really bother cause everyone knows that he is the shoutmeister.
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Jim Bond
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Posted - 2004.03.11 20:03:00 -
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I'm biased but i would have to say Shrike, as he is always the first to "sacrifice" himself in battle, and nearly every battle. 
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.03.11 20:28:00 -
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Mchalin of Backwater for me. The duke or Lallante.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.03.11 20:51:00 -
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Well, it depends on the situation, and what kind of battle im going to engage in.
I must say, for the very big battles, i trust Xirtam VOTF 100%, for different reasons i wont comment on here .
For the small skirmishes, i absolutly wouldnt engage without Chow,Monk,Mchalin or lallente, they are specialist on these matters.
Well in Oracle we have severeal good figthers, i wont say who, because, well next time we get charged, i may be them ending up in a pod So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Nephlite
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Posted - 2004.03.11 21:12:00 -
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Bizarre and StiZum Hilidii are the two I would follow into battle without worry or concern.
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The Monk
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Posted - 2004.03.11 22:21:00 -
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I would have to say me... I have lead my band of merry men to victory on many an occasion. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |

dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.11 22:43:00 -
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I seriously doubt that Lallante or the Monk has time to command anything inbetween every post they make in local
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Sick Boy
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Posted - 2004.03.11 23:40:00 -
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Well i will nominate Bizzare and Stan as well they are skilled leaders... and the badger song during battles are the best..=)
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.03.11 23:41:00 -
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Duke Droklar, OC.
imo. --------
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.03.11 23:43:00 -
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Hardin, PIE ----------------------------------------------
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.03.12 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 12/03/2004 03:21:43 Ohh i forgot Golan, that old warhorse.
and Dalman, we can multitask in CA , allthough i have never been under your command Dalman im sure you are a efficent leader, faced you enough times to say that. So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.03.12 01:12:00 -
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Well, be nice and objective and non biased, here my list (aw=s well as a reason why)
1.) Omniwar: I know he never noticed me but I sure as ell noticed him. And what I saw astounded me. Controlled a battle like an artist conrols a brush stroke against canvass. How do I know it was him, because everything was queued and he was always the first in queueand the last in queue, which looked to me like he was the cartest behind the brush.
2.) Dreez: This guy seems to be the most corse man that ever lived, but man, he can get a sloppy group of frigs and cruisers into the nasty and mostt efficeint strike fleet in the game.
3.) Khoulkk: Tied with synapse of EV, this guy is the oil to Synapse water, when you want the enemy crushed in one fight, you call on Khoulkk, he lacks finesse but he makes up for it in brutality. I'd liketo see him against omni war though, I've seen smash and bash tactics used against Omniwar and I've seen M0o walk away bruised and thier enemy walk away broken. Khoulkk is very straight forward, so the enemy is usually crushed or escapes rather annoyed but otherwise intact.
3.) Synapse: Where Khoulkk is a brusk and agressive bull dog, Synapse is a cool and calculating master of logistics and support of an akita inu. Synapse is great when you dont want to see the ebnemy for a while. He may not do the damage to rank and file that khoulkk does, but he is more than capapble of insuring that the enemy stays back and wary. Synsapse is a bit of a gambler which can make him rather unpredictable, but insures that his victories are grand and his failures, well you know how this goes.
4.) Darkwolf: DW is a math guy, he sees a word of number s and is avery efficient and logical in battle, why not the agressive maniac that khoulkk is or the shrewed gambler that Synapse is, he is still effective, do to an impecable ability to pick the right targets.
5.) Cause I like me... a lot.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.03.12 02:52:00 -
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Too many to list
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Dawson
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Posted - 2004.03.12 03:32:00 -
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Duke Droklar
And ive been with a few diffrent people from beta til now, I think hes been the best.
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Don ZOLA
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Posted - 2004.03.12 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: Don ZOLA on 13/03/2004 23:47:26 my voice goes to Bizzare and Stan aswell, and also species 8742 :)
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Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2004.03.12 12:16:00 -
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Ohh i forgot Golan, that old warhorse.
Why thank you not to bad your self either 
Now if only peeps could read my mind would make it much easier to command.
But using KISS principle usually works....Keep It Simple Stupid.
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.03.12 12:29:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 11/03/2004 15:04:25 im the best... but i dont have any1 to command!!! 
not true :)
The friends of matar officially accept your command.
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