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Interferon
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Posted - 2004.03.11 19:54:00 -
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Hello all, just wondering if anyone in a 'Phoon ever took out a Raven? I got a thing going with a corpmate and he says a tanked out Raven will own a Typhoon, but I beg to differ. Any 1st hand impressions would be great. Thank you, and see you in space.
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Outcastino
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Posted - 2004.03.11 20:58:00 -
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Last time on chaos we made a big ffa, the last 3 left were a raven, scorp and a typhoon. The scorp and raven ganged up on the typhoon, it lasted for about 5-10 minutes of serius pounding after it finnally died. So i think a raven wouldnt touch the phoons shields/armor if it was properly tanked up ;)
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.11 21:18:00 -
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Typhoon can be pretty nasty but an experienced Raven pilot shouldn't have much trouble with one IMO.
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.03.11 21:26:00 -
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Cpt Pugwash (with a phoon) of PAK took out a raven with moa and kest support (he got all three). Although all three must have been n00bs because he would have only had one scrambler if he even had one.
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.03.11 21:50:00 -
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I did plenty of testing on this and with equal skills in the end the Raven wins. There are a few ifs that have to happen tho. First off Raven has to spam torpedos of the kinetic type for a very long time to overcome tanked typhoon. Second the raven itself has to be tanked to survive long enough to overcome the phoons tanking. One of the most important thing is keeping the range nice and big, if you get close to raven you will only die faster. If you spread out his volleys a bit then you can last a lot longer. If you feeling lucky you can try tucking up to the raven in which case most of the torpeedos will hit him too. But that depends on just how close you are and how fast you can rub up against him. Its a fine line between taking more damage and dying in the process and reaching the relative safety of his underbelly. Sadly you only need tiny skills to make good use of raven spamming where by you need very good skills to make a typhoon tank work.
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Belzavior
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Posted - 2004.03.11 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Belzavior on 11/03/2004 22:15:07
A raven should win though in the end it all determined by the pilots and modules.
Isn't a Raven tier 2 and a Typhoon tier 1? Thats why I think in equally skilled pilots, with equally good equipment the raven would probably win. Though there is nothing equal in EVE.
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Brukhai Khan
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Posted - 2004.03.11 23:11:00 -
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I once killed a Raven 1-1 in my Typhoon. I have no idea what the guy¦s setup was, although I¦m sure he wasn¦t tanked.
Against a fully tanked raven you¦d probably have a hard time, but I think it¦s doable... would have to try it out tho.
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Arcane
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Posted - 2004.03.12 01:05:00 -
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I did take out some Ravens already in my 'Phoon on Chaos ... however the problem on TQ w/o the no warping agreements on Chaos would be that the Raven can just warp away once it's cap is down and the tanking cannot be sustained any longer. Still, a single Raven will not be able to take down a well equipped 'Phoon solo ... only ship that could do that imho would be a Blasterthron.
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Grut
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Posted - 2004.03.12 01:36:00 -
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If the typoons tanked it can't do enough dmg to kill a raven, tryed this on chaos a couple of times and it just dont work. On tq the poons got to lose a mid to a w/s that puts it in a world of hurt.
Ravens can tank perfectly well with 5 mids, it should be able to put out enough dmg that the poons got to run its xl nonstop, even so the poon would have plenty of time to get out of scramble range if not its wheather it runs out of cap or the raven missiles whoever does first loses.
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Kashre
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Posted - 2004.03.12 05:33:00 -
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I think I could beat a shield tanked raven with a typhoon. 6 siege launchers shouldnt be enough to overcome a typhoons potential defences, IMO, at least if the Raven is shield tanked and not using EW. Of course, it would take all day and probably use up 300 torpedos, but I bet eventually it would run out of cap.
Guess its all a question of wether or not a typhoon can REALLY keep up with the damage output of a raven.
Anyone wana try it? I'll be available to get onto chaos all day saturday.
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.03.12 05:43:00 -
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Its all been tested already, the raven has to spam torpedos and use kinetiks if the phoon has em and therm hardners. If the raven uses em or therm torpedos it cant beat a phoon. Phoon only gives up one 1400 to become a tank so it not loosing much firepower. A tanked raven can hold off a phoon without too much trouble. Problem is that in some cases the booster just cant keep up with incoming damage, not so much a cap issue.
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.12 09:03:00 -
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I can beat Raven whit 3 -4 Heavy Nosferatus and 4 800mm
Armor tank and Cap booster loadet whit 800cap batterys (i can get another 4 in cargo bay)
MWD colse to it and start scrambling it/sucking it cap and shooting at it
whuld take like 2 minutes and the ravens cap is dry
at close range raven cant spamm Torpedos because they whuld hurt itself too
Closerange Nosferatu typhoon is thing worth of trying out 
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Denst Rowell
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Posted - 2004.03.12 12:51:00 -
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I can beat Raven whit 3 -4 Heavy Nosferatus and 4 800mm
Armor tank and Cap booster loadet whit 800cap batterys (i can get another 4 in cargo bay)
MWD colse to it and start scrambling it/sucking it cap and shooting at it
whuld take like 2 minutes and the ravens cap is dry
at close range raven cant spamm Torpedos because they whuld hurt itself too
Closerange Nosferatu typhoon is thing worth of trying out
i like your style!!
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NajZero
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Posted - 2004.03.12 13:25:00 -
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hehe, I¦m Raven Pilot and i got:
6 "Malkuth" Siege
2 Heavy Nosferatu
5 Multispectral
And with this setup you normally beat a Typhoon.
I know the setup is different to a tanked one.
I have flown "tanked" Raven for long time but i prefer my new setup.
Nobody think that a Raven is using 5 Multis for jamming, because most Ravens are tanked.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.12 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 12/03/2004 13:39:55
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hehe, I¦m Raven Pilot and i got:
6 "Malkuth" Siege
2 Heavy Nosferatu
5 Multispectral
And with this setup you normally beat a Typhoon.
I know the setup is different to a tanked one.
I have flown "tanked" Raven for long time but i prefer my new setup.
Nobody think that a Raven is using 5 Multis for jamming, because most Ravens are tanked.
well.. typgon can fit 4 launchers instead of 4 800mms too u know 
and then.. both suck theyr caps off... then what.. just stear at each others ? 
oh.. for that setup to work u whuld need MWD and armor tank.... but help u lord if some one got 2 Backup arrays tech 2
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Kram Calama
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Posted - 2004.03.12 13:40:00 -
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Nobody think that a Raven is using 5 Multis for jamming, because most Ravens are tanked.
We do now
Station camping, ship jamming, forum spamming, milk drinking, deep thinking, gooner loving, goat hugging, pirate killer............AVE IT LARGE!!!! |
Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.12 13:50:00 -
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Nobody think that a Raven is using 5 Multis for jamming, because most Ravens are tanked.
We do now
Bwahahahah ! Priceles
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NajZero
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Posted - 2004.03.12 14:20:00 -
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lol, I change my fittings from time to time, so nobody knows which fitting i got atm.
And if someone fitted 2 backup arrays II, most scorps are ****** too, then most using 5 Multis i only know several ppl using 6.
In this case i have to run 
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Jargo Stonecutter
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Posted - 2004.03.12 14:40:00 -
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Killed some Ravens on Chaos with a Typhoon in 1v1, took quite a while and a whole lot of torps/cruise to wear the shields down, but at least my shields never went under 70%.
both ships were shield tanked btw.
PS: heavy nosferaty wont work against a typhoon with a good outfit. m8 used a raven with 4x heavy nosferatu and 4x h-50 against my typhoon, only think that happend was that cap stabilizied at 40% not at 60% like normal but thats it!
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Dreez
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Posted - 2004.03.12 16:46:00 -
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I once saw 2 Ravens taking on a Typhoon on chaos and
the typhoon did not go down ,eventhou the 2 ravens
were hammering it with missiles.
Never seen anything like it.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.12 16:51:00 -
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Typhoon won't be so hot when cap relays are nerfed.
The ship has 7 lowslots 8 high slots and it's weapons use no capacitator at all, that's why it's difficult to take down.
If you use all 7 for cap relays, yeah, it's one tough nut to *****.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.03.12 17:25:00 -
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Hello all, just wondering if anyone in a 'Phoon ever took out a Raven? I got a thing going with a corpmate and he says a tanked out Raven will own a Typhoon, but I beg to differ. Any 1st hand impressions would be great. Thank you, and see you in space.
Talk to Brukhai Khan. He killed an EV Raven in a 1 v 1 using his phoon. In an unrelated skirmish he also killed an apoc in 1 v 1 as well
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.12 22:45:00 -
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Typhoon won't be so hot when cap relays are nerfed.
The ship has 7 lowslots 8 high slots and it's weapons use no capacitator at all, that's why it's difficult to take down.
If you use all 7 for cap relays, yeah, it's one tough nut to *****.
one more reason to use Armor tank and Cap booster
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.12 22:53:00 -
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Typhoon won't be so hot when cap relays are nerfed.
The ship has 7 lowslots 8 high slots and it's weapons use no capacitator at all, that's why it's difficult to take down.
If you use all 7 for cap relays, yeah, it's one tough nut to *****.
one more reason to use Armor tank and Cap booster
That doesn't mix overly well with carrying missiles/ammo.
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.03.12 23:03:00 -
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hopefully the reduce on capboosters size will solve that
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.12 23:09:00 -
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hopefully the reduce on capboosters size will solve that
then you have ships with unlimited cap again.
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.03.13 00:18:00 -
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true  altho u cant carry unlimited boosters
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Bobbeh
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Posted - 2004.03.13 13:24:00 -
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I kept up witht the damage output from a tempest. You could do it against a raven. However. Unless drones are used effectively i dont think the typhoon could take the ravens shield down.
Mimiru > It'd be a tie, the monkies nerfed pooflinger wouldnt have enough tracking to hit the parrot orbiting him, but the parrot's beak is so small it couldnt break the monkey's fur tanking. |
Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.13 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 13/03/2004 15:50:39
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Typhoon won't be so hot when cap relays are nerfed.
The ship has 7 lowslots 8 high slots and it's weapons use no capacitator at all, that's why it's difficult to take down.
If you use all 7 for cap relays, yeah, it's one tough nut to *****.
one more reason to use Armor tank and Cap booster
That doesn't mix overly well with carrying missiles/ammo.
well.. i dont know, i think typhoon got enought cargospace for that
i reserve 200 cargo for ammo and 400 for cap batterys
overall i got 6400 exstra capasitor juice
if u got nothing beter to do this eavning i culd sugjest that u culd try it out
its wonderful thing that u can put all sorts of funny things to replase thous cap recharging mods
and if battle is going to be longer that 6400 + ur base cap - i think u can caal it a draw and leave the sceen
/edit: sorry for my crappy english jim 
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Outcastino
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Posted - 2004.03.13 17:37:00 -
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cap relays being nerfed is ewul ;)
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