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Hanilein
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Posted - 2004.03.11 20:17:00 -
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Sorry, CCP, i really dont want to get loud BUT PLEASE STOP THIS SUDDEN GAME PLAY CHANGING - its so tedious that you can rely on NOTHING in this game is working today as it worked yesterday.
I need a mailbox - a small container in a 0.8 system to share things with my corpmates without the need to dock and meet in person or to escrow - why is that suddenly not possible?????
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Hanilein
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Posted - 2004.03.11 20:25:00 -
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just tried to anchor a small secure container in a 0.8 system 1050 km away from a station - and a small box comes up saying "according to the clean space blah blah blah youre not allowed to anchor this in 0.8 or above" or so.
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Balancing doesn't mean to equal every fitting, it means
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Hanilein
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Posted - 2004.03.11 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Hanilein on 11/03/2004 20:58:46
seems so. I havn't tried it.
Well, they changed the behavior of these cans every month - and every time when one has worked out a strategy of using what they gave us, they just changed something with it.
What the hell does those people think? They made the rules to play the game - and here are thousands (!) of players trying to make the best of it. And some of as are doing so well, that they think "stop! these guy is way to good - lets cut his wings a little bit...".
I love EVE really - but if every effort to play strategic is cut down i'll quit - thats for shure.
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Balancing doesn't mean to equal every fitting, it means
giving everybody the chance to encounter a fitting.
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Hanilein
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Posted - 2004.03.11 21:07:00 -
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Nope. Cut down a highway in RL and watch the economy in the region - it will starve. So cutting the highways thats nonsense. Highways are very good for business. Think about it twice ;-) .
And it should be possible to differ between a warp disrupter and a can...
..btw i think they should blow up every warp disruptor while anchoring with 1000000 HP in a radius of 10km ;-)
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Balancing doesn't mean to equal every fitting, it means
giving everybody the chance to encounter a fitting.
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Hanilein
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Posted - 2004.03.11 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: Hanilein on 11/03/2004 21:43:34
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Edited by: Huron on 11/03/2004 21:14:48
You know some of us have been here since release, where there were no secure cans. You just had to deal with ore thieves and mine faster than they could steal or go mine somewhere slightly more remote. Look around, there are thosands of other players made it just fine without secure cans. So, spare me your little tale of woe.
And what has this to do with my posting? I'm moped about these ongoing changes in gameplay - somebody is whining about these bad carebears who are so cheeky not to wait until they are shot down by a gate camper - so they introduced warp disruptors. Then somebody find out some other nice things to do with them and - oops - they screw at another part of the game.
I'd like to state that i have nothing against an evolution in the gameplay - but not head over heels, please.
And one word about containers - i use them in unsecured aereas for solomining - yes - i'm one of these guys who sometimes like to solo. So take the cans and i loose one way to play eve. Why the heck should i use the things in eve only the way _you_ (or somebody else) think they should used? I love it to try new things and to "live" in eve my way.
In this specific case i wantet to implement a mailbox - a place to share blueprints ore such things.
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Secure cans lasting a couple of hours are pretty much all you need for secure mining. Using them to strip mine asteroid belts was probably not what the devs anticipated. Nor should they be bank vaults in spaaaaaace!
Why not use them as a vault? You should be a little bit more flexible. (I personally would like to buy a Can password hacking skill :-)).
Strip mining with cans is nonsense - they're much too small to be usefull.
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Balancing doesn't mean to equal every fitting, it means
giving everybody the chance to encounter a fitting.
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Hanilein
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Posted - 2004.03.11 21:50:00 -
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Yay!
Feel free to use a BS to strip mine newb systems now, it will teach new comers how to ore thieve <sp?> at an early age... Which is the lesser of those two evils in my book.
[sarcasm] You're right. Its better to shoot them down at the gates in Yulai with that BS [/sarcasm].
come on, a BS like the apoc fills a giant in 5 minutes - then it has to move to the next can 5000 m away - and you must place the cans and adjust them in the right distance from the roids and each other - much to much work compared with a jetisoned can...
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Balancing doesn't mean to equal every fitting, it means
giving everybody the chance to encounter a fitting.
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Hanilein
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Posted - 2004.03.11 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Hanilein on 11/03/2004 22:59:54
Edited by: Hanilein on 11/03/2004 22:58:27
Edited by: Hanilein on 11/03/2004 22:55:36
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And one word about containers - i use them in unsecured aereas for solomining - yes - i'm one of these guys who sometimes like to solo. So take the cans and i loose one way to play eve. Why the heck should i use the things in eve only the way _you_ (or somebody else) think they should used? I love it to try new things and to "live" in eve my way.
Having the can last for a couple of hours would still work in this case. Mine a hour, cart it back, refine, repeat. It just makes the mine the entire belt, stick all the ore in secure containers, and screw everyone else, not as rewarding as the can would disappear after a couple of hours. That is the important part. Think about how your play impact others.
No - First you didn't bear in mind that deploying a can takes a while - you have to find a spot with no roid in the range of 5000m _and_ enough valuable roids not more than 11999m away. In some belts this takes a while.
Second - did you ever scan a belt and count the amount of ore? How many cans would you like to deploy? You would need at least 30 to 50 cans for the valuable ores...
Third - what is a MMORG for? interacting with others. And - yes - i thought about it. My play impacts them much more if i use my weapons.
Roids are a rare ressource - and that leads the players to put up higher risks and perhaps even to leave empire space. If CCP wants better belts for the newcomers, i would recommend to rise the roid respawn rate in the starter systems a bit and lower the presence of higher value ores.
EVE is somehow a mirror of RL - and there everybody tries to get the mouts out of it with the lowest risk. thats human.
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In this specific case i wantet to implement a mailbox - a place to share blueprints ore such things.
It's called a hangar and it is already in the game.
You don't want to understand - don't you? I'd like to put some BPC's in that can for a mate who isn't online yet. Of course he cannot access my hangar.
Why not use them as a vault? You should be a little bit more flexible. (I personally would like to buy a Can password hacking skill :-)).
Strip mining with cans is nonsense - they're much too small to be usefull.
Again one person doing this is not so bad. Now imagine ten players doing this. Now a hundred. What a pointless waste of database space for junk littering the space around stations.
That would'n waste a bit. The can-object is linked to a solar system or a station - in both cases thats a simple pointer / primary key. Same for the included objects. btw - i have the greates respect to the database programmers - very very good work.
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Balancing doesn't mean to equal every fitting, it means
giving everybody the chance to encounter a fitting.
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