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Segmentation Fault	Posted - 2007.12.10 16:23:00 - [1] With the rapidly increasing number of players in eve, it appears to me that Eve is becoming overly crowded. Many 0.0 systems now have as many people as you find in a normal empire system. Is there any plan to increase the size of the Eve universe? How about to replicate the existing universe in a second shard?
Ryuga VonRhaiden Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2007.12.10 16:23:00 - [2] there are already 300 of those posts :/ Do not try and find the signature... that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth... There is no signature.
Relyen Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.12.10 17:08:00 - [3] Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion.
Riskalot Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.10 17:24:00 - [4] Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? ___ _____________________________ i'm a Signature. give meh colors!
ChiangFa Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.10 17:38:00 - [5] Edited by: ChiangFa on 10/12/2007 17:40:27 Edited by: ChiangFa on 10/12/2007 17:38:59 Well sovreignity doesn't mean that 0.0 is full of pilots. Morover, as long as new players (and alts) join the game, pvp will become more frequent ad intensive. The idea of adding a new shard sounds horrible to me, it shakes the very fundations of EVE Online. Yes, CCP could add a new galaxy but: 1)must be all 0.0, a real far west 2)be accessibile from "artificially created" gates, let's say, one for every faction. So we will have four "EVE gate 2.0" in each faction capital (adding the problem of uber lag, like Jita maybe) This will lower the number of ships in space, both empire and 0.0, lowering the chances of engagements. Another way could be of adding other 0.0 regions in the existing galaxy but the problem in this case will be the distance from "civilized" regions (and market hubs)
Ma'kal Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.10 17:47:00 - [6] Edited by: Ma''kal on 10/12/2007 17:47:48 The thing that bothers me that there isn't much 0.0 space better than a .1 in empire.
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.10 17:54:00 - [7] Significance of anything you do = (1 / (number of servers)^2) * significance of your action --------------------------------- Oh noes!
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.10 17:57:00 - [8] Originally by: Riskalot Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? Claimed != occupied. It just means no one can be bothered to contest the claim for what is some really AWFUL real estate out in 0.0. On my journey out to my current 'home' system, I maybe see a couple of systems with 4 or 5 people in it. The other 30 or so, might occasionally have one person, but no more. 0.0 IS empty. It's just there's large swathes of it that's also worthless real estate, so no one bothers with it. Of course, in order to make the EVE cluster bigger, the solution is actually pretty simple. Increase travel times. Size is not an absolute number, it's a factor of travel time. So, lets lose warp to zero, and just auto-delete bookmarks within 115km of a gate every downtime. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP
Vrenth Gallente 23rd Armor Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.10 18:42:00 - [9] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Riskalot Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? Claimed != occupied. It just means no one can be bothered to contest the claim for what is some really AWFUL real estate out in 0.0. On my journey out to my current 'home' system, I maybe see a couple of systems with 4 or 5 people in it. The other 30 or so, might occasionally have one person, but no more. 0.0 IS empty. It's just there's large swathes of it that's also worthless real estate, so no one bothers with it. Of course, in order to make the EVE cluster bigger, the solution is actually pretty simple. Increase travel times. Size is not an absolute number, it's a factor of travel time. So, lets lose warp to zero, and just auto-delete bookmarks within 115km of a gate every downtime. That is not slowing travel in 0.0/lowsec, its eliminating it completely. --------------------------------- Let's make CLONE VATS useful!
Danjira Ryuujin Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.10 18:57:00 - [10] Everyone sticks to the gooey center. Amarr - Annoying the Eve Community since 2005

Relyen Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.12.10 19:17:00 - [11] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Riskalot Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? Claimed != occupied. It just means no one can be bothered to contest the claim for what is some really AWFUL real estate out in 0.0. On my journey out to my current 'home' system, I maybe see a couple of systems with 4 or 5 people in it. The other 30 or so, might occasionally have one person, but no more. 0.0 IS empty. It's just there's large swathes of it that's also worthless real estate, so no one bothers with it. This is what I was referring too. Most big alliances stick to station systems and systems that have high value. Aka. they have a real low true sec status and lots of asteroid belts. So, basically people can get the best minerals when mining and the best bounties when ratting. There is tons and tons of 0.0 systems with practically nobody in them. And tons and tons of sytems with nobody in them. Why? Well they don't have all the best minerals and the rats just aren't as juicy. Or because there isn't a station system there. If more "newer" corps were able to move out into these smaller areas (with permission from the bigger alliances/corps). And just deal with the less income, then yea it might fill out 0.0 space more. However, some could argue that it's more fruitful to live in empire then in these "crappy" 0.0 areas. So, my statement remains true, regardless of a player created political/influence map. It's not a true map that says where empty spots that aren't used are. That influence map is designed to show "influence". Where a certain alliance will be most active based off the systems/stations they do control. If you want to truely know how empty 0.0 is. Open up your ingame map and hit average pilots in the last 30 minutes (even this doesn't give a true picture). And just look at all the empty non empire systems. While I won't say more space would be a bad thing. It would at the same time, provide more unused space as well.
Mr John22ta Galactic Terran Command	Posted - 2007.12.13 12:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Riskalot Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? Your a moron and thats as easy as I can deliver that news to you. Please grasp the concept of the influence map before you ever use it in a post again. Its a disgrace to the thing and all the work put into it. Stopping yourself from posting in the future would be very much so appreciated.
Riskalot Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.13 12:36:00 - [13] Edited by: Riskalot on 13/12/2007 12:40:43 Originally by: Mr John22ta Originally by: Riskalot Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? Your a moron and thats as easy as I can deliver that news to you. Please grasp the concept of the influence map before you ever use it in a post again. Its a disgrace to the thing and all the work put into it. Stopping yourself from posting in the future would be very much so appreciated. OOooooohhhhhwwww, flame on, flame on. thats why i love these forums here. cuz those wanabees like you, crossing the board and postin offtopics to diss stb. flame one and get the **** a better life. ___ _____________________________ i'm a Signature. give meh colors!
C4rnag3 nemo nobis impune lacessit Phoenix Allianz	Posted - 2007.12.13 12:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Riskalot OOooooohhhhhwwww, flame on, flame on. thats why i love these forums here. cuz those wanabees like you, crossing the board and postin offtopics to diss stb. flame one and get the **** a better life. nah, hes just a frustrated amarr. so dont listen to him.
Sailon	Posted - 2007.12.13 13:12:00 - [15] lets restart eve gate and see how our ancestors survived?
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.13 13:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Vrenth Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Riskalot Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? Claimed != occupied. It just means no one can be bothered to contest the claim for what is some really AWFUL real estate out in 0.0. On my journey out to my current 'home' system, I maybe see a couple of systems with 4 or 5 people in it. The other 30 or so, might occasionally have one person, but no more. 0.0 IS empty. It's just there's large swathes of it that's also worthless real estate, so no one bothers with it. Of course, in order to make the EVE cluster bigger, the solution is actually pretty simple. Increase travel times. Size is not an absolute number, it's a factor of travel time. So, lets lose warp to zero, and just auto-delete bookmarks within 115km of a gate every downtime. That is not slowing travel in 0.0/lowsec, its eliminating it completely. That's just plain not true. It's entirely possible to move around 0.0 with 15km gate approaches. And IT ALWAYS WAS. Even back in the days of instas, there were people who would cry, and moan, that 'OMG I can't go anywhere without instas' but you know what? That wasn't true either. It's more dangerous, and travel takes longer. That's all. Level playing field though, means your 'hostiles' are also talking longer to move battleships around, and can't rove nearly as far in a single evening. And yes, I do have direct experience of doing so. I ran a POS chain, 5 towers, 15 or so jumps out into 0.0. In T1 haulers, in travel fits, and without instas. The world did not end. I started using instas not because I felt they were necessary, but because I was fed up of the competitive advantage I was giving up in a cut-throat POS market. But they really weren't _needed_ at all. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP
Mr John22ta Galactic Terran Command	Posted - 2007.12.14 03:41:00 - [17] Originally by: Riskalot Edited by: Riskalot on 13/12/2007 12:40:43 Originally by: Mr John22ta Originally by: Riskalot Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? Your a moron and thats as easy as I can deliver that news to you. Please grasp the concept of the influence map before you ever use it in a post again. Its a disgrace to the thing and all the work put into it. Stopping yourself from posting in the future would be very much so appreciated. OOooooohhhhhwwww, flame on, flame on. thats why i love these forums here. cuz those wanabees like you, crossing the board and postin offtopics to diss stb. flame one and get the **** a better life. My original main point is proven. The one about you being a moron since I know you'll probably have trouble understanding just that. Now since someone has to explain to your idiotic self; Influence does not equal own. There is an abundance, and that means a lot, of unclaimed space. If you had any logic at all you would understand that the only off-topic part of my post was calling you a moron because quite frankly put... You are. Now please stop posting.
Katana Seiko Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.14 06:55:00 - [18] There was an expansion of space, not very long ago. The drone regions were connected to the rest of the galaxy. And to that ridiculous request: There will NEVER be any shards. But well, who knows? Maybe one day CCP might have a server that's more powerful than BlueGene/L (that one has 478.2 TFlop/s), with a connection faster than this lady has... Would be extremely cool if their Supercomputer (CCPGene/L?) could handle 100 GBit/s... --- This is your Captain speaking. Thank you for flying with our spaceline. Please remain seated until the ship has completely burned out. Thank you.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.14 07:29:00 - [19] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Riskalot Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? Claimed != occupied. It just means no one can be bothered to contest the claim for what is some really AWFUL real estate out in 0.0. On my journey out to my current 'home' system, I maybe see a couple of systems with 4 or 5 people in it. The other 30 or so, might occasionally have one person, but no more. 0.0 IS empty. It's just there's large swathes of it that's also worthless real estate, so no one bothers with it. Of course, in order to make the EVE cluster bigger, the solution is actually pretty simple. Increase travel times. Size is not an absolute number, it's a factor of travel time. So, lets lose warp to zero, and just auto-delete bookmarks within 115km of a gate every downtime. Claimed = occupied as the same people that will not bother to use the claimed systems will kill anyone trying to use them. Contesting a system from one of the established alliances require large forces that a new alliance has practically no possibility to muster, as it has not the financial basis to build and lose several capitals to gain a system. About your "travel time" idea the only effect would be to concentrate even more the population in a limited number of system, with the added "bonus" for people with jumpbridges and cyno alt networks to be the only people with fast travel routes. Pratically you will be making even harder to contest the estabilished alliances.
Eraggan Sadarr Phoenix Tribe	Posted - 2007.12.14 14:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Segmentation Fault Is there any plan to increase the size of the Eve universe? How about to replicate the existing universe in a second shard? Well, dividing the server is not a solution as one of EVEs goals is to have a single universe for all players. But i see no problem in adding another onion layer of 0.0 space. Well access to it would be easiest for the alliances who already have sovereignty in the outer regions, so they would probably be new regions with low sec access, just like the drone regions. Eve Market Scanner

Drogher Forerunner	Posted - 2007.12.14 19:11:00 - [21] Have you been to 0.0? Just becaused something is claimed does not mean it is "owned" let alone occupied. It is possible to slip under the radar and try to find a nice quiet system and build up. If you want to go out into space and take the system but the enemy are too strong or too rich, then frankly you have to find other means. Try allying with other corps or small/new alliances, enlist help from other large alliances who also happen to be enemies of who you want to fight. Save ISK and higher mercs to fight with you. Basically be a social butterfly. If you have the patience, sit back and wait for either that alliance to give up space or go to war so you can make your move, and just save all your ISK for a war chest. OR, now this may be just a bit radical. See if you can cut a deal with whoever has claimed the space. Use some brains. Its only if you want a prime rib section of space that has strategic/financial value are you really going to find alot of opposition (unless they are just bored). Most of 0.0 is empty and policing it properly is alot of hard work. Eve space doesnt need to be expanded. remove sec status from empire space and make it conqurable and see how fast people will spread out and make use of all the lovely kill or be killed space.
azura nester White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.12.14 19:51:00 - [22] Originally by: Riskalot Originally by: Relyen Technically, most of 0.0 is empty. Why? Thats a whole nother discussion. lol?! look at this --> map so where do you see "empty" space dude? fool, just because someone claims to have sov in that area dosent mean that its populated. u can go 40+ jumps through 0.0 and see nobody.


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