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K'jata
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Posted - 2007.12.11 03:19:00 -
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Hi.
I've been thinking about this, now, is the Nidhoggur a good capital ship... I was thinking about putting a couple off years into supports for one, already at 10m SP it would give the edge. However I was debating this with a fair few people and the general Idea is that its rubbish. Now without bias can some off you give me your opinion, if not fact on the Nidhoggurs ability as a carrier, as a ship as anything just relating,
Any response is appreciated.
Thanks!
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The Internets
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Posted - 2007.12.11 03:39:00 -
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Once carriers are reduced to controlling 5 drones at a time and assigning extras the Nidhoggur would probably be the better one to have following a gang around due to the remote repair bonus. Plus it can fit a nice armor tank due to the slot layout change in trinity.
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Susa Ou
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Posted - 2007.12.11 04:45:00 -
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well, it has the same slot allocation as the thanatos, which makes it an inferior choise between the two. Ultimatly when it comes to capital ships, the primary tanker races (Amarr and Caldari, armor and shields respectivly) are the better choise if you are looking to build a tank, the Thanatos has the best damage of the four and the Nid gets the remote transfer ammount bonus (5% per level).
So it has the worst tank (easily), the worst cap (Minmatar) and gets a logistics bonus. . .I would honestly fly the Chimera or the Archon if I had a choise with 1.5 bil, but if its an aesthetic question then its not really one seeking a logical answer.
If its not an aesthetic issue, I would steer clear of Minmatar capital ships.
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Aeaus
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.12.11 08:39:00 -
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Archon over all others to be honest, if you're gonna invest billions into the ship (skills, mods, hull, etc) and millions of skill points, you might as well spend the extra forty-some days training for Amarr BS V.
The Nid. looks to be the least useful of all carriers IMHO, the Thanatos literally has a paper thin tank, the Chimera is good up to the point where you run out of capacitor (front line carriers absolutely rely on injectors), so, you're left with the Archon :)
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Riho
Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2007.12.11 08:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Aeaus
Archon over all others to be honest, if you're gonna invest billions into the ship (skills, mods, hull, etc) and millions of skill points, you might as well spend the extra forty-some days training for Amarr BS V.
The Nid. looks to be the least useful of all carriers IMHO, the Thanatos literally has a paper thin tank, the Chimera is good up to the point where you run out of capacitor (front line carriers absolutely rely on injectors), so, you're left with the Archon :)
any carrier pilot who fits a injector can be called a IDIOT!
relays and cap rechargers (depending on tank ofc) will do 10x the job.
id really like to see a person who uses injectors efectivly on a carrier :P. even whit 5 heavy injectors on my thanatos (tested on test server) is weaker than 5 cap rechargers :P
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Aeaus
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.12.11 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Riho
any carrier pilot who fits a injector can be called a IDIOT!
relays and cap rechargers (depending on tank ofc) will do 10x the job.
id really like to see a person who uses injectors efectivly on a carrier :P. even whit 5 heavy injectors on my thanatos (tested on test server) is weaker than 5 cap rechargers :P
Wait, you're just joking right?
Because, obviously a sensor booster is irrelevant, but, okay, let's assume we don't need one...
Thanatos
5 x Heavy Cap Booster II w/ 800
3 x CCC
= +379.6 cap/sec
Thanatos
5 x Cap Recharger II
3 x CCC
= +286.6
Thanatos
3 x Heavy Cap Booster II w/800
3 x CCC
= +265.3
Of course, with the cap boosters you also have the ability to fit two more mid slot modules, have the ability to get 202.6 cap/sec (3 boosters) vs 95.5 cap/sec (recharge) even when completely energy neutralized, which can't be overstated since 3 Heavy Cap Boosters with 800's gives you 2400 cap per cycle, which is, exactly how much an armor repairer takes in per cycle.
So, your "EFT ONLINE" comment seems to be quite funny, because I don't think you're playing either EVE or EFT, welcome to... "Forums Online," where people make completely false affirmations and call each other idiots.
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Twin blade
Minmatar
The Triangle
Exa Nation
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Posted - 2007.12.11 13:38:00 -
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Its the best gang support of all the carrier's as long as you have a GOOD fleet that can defend you as your tank is weak.
When it come's down to it a tank bonus means nothing dead support fleet = dead carrier no mattor how much more DPS it can tank over another carrier.
I am sure some amarr/caldari carrier pilot will try to say i am worng but good luck to them tanking with 0 cap since there fleet got owned.
Carrier damage is not some thing to bother with once the Nerf stops you having more than 5 fighter's under your control at once.
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K'jata
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Posted - 2007.12.11 13:50:00 -
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About the nerf, can they still assign fighters to other people and control some with more then 5 out in space, and can they control more then 5 standard drones(ie: ogre II)
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Law Enforcer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.11 14:11:00 -
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did you just say you only have 10mil sp and you're thinking about going for capitals? 
someone tell me I misread what he said.
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Detrol
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.11 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Law Enforcer
did you just say you only have 10mil sp and you're thinking about going for capitals?
someone tell me I misread what he said.
Only thing in Eve you need is a goal. So what he only has 10mil SP, at least he knows what he has to train now.
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente
Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.12.11 22:01:00 -
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The Nidhoggur is the best for spider tanking due to its logistics bonus, however, other than that it's the weakest of the carriers. Archon and Chimera have resist boni, and the Thanatos a fighter bonus (and a solid tank).
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Sedai Hara
The Forsakened Companions
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.12.11 22:03:00 -
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There is a very short, cruel, mean and good answer to this question, and it goes around alot in these threads.
When you choose what carrier to get think of this:
which raceial Battleship do i like to/do i fly the most?
what kind of tanking do i like most/ do i have skills in?
which one looks the best?
As already stated: if your support fleet dies, if 30 dreads drop ontop of you or you are caught VS a enemy gang without any help close. You will die. Carriers are supposed to fly with 10 other carries creating a spider tank and logistics to the smaller ships. So in theory yes the nidd is best t this. but it all comes down on the questions above. Good stats in EFT or in stations doesnt matter if 100 battleships focus fire on you. those 25% extra resistance wont save you from death, just delay it for a short moment.
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