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The Ice'Demon
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.12 20:07:00 -
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The scriptures: 27.3
Then the divine messenger showed me the river of
life-giving water, sparkling like crystal, flowing
from the golden throne of god down the middle of
its street. On either side of the river grew the
tree of life that produces fruit twelve times a
year, once each month; the leaves of the trees
serve as medicine for the nations. Nothing accursed
will be found there anymore. The throne of god and
of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will
worship him. They will look upon his face, and his
name will be on their foreheads. Night will be no
more, nor will they need light from lamp or sun, for
god shall give them light, and they shall reign
forever and ever.
ôHe will remove all of their sorrows, and there will
be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. For the
old world and its evils are gone forever."
And he also said,
"It is finished! I am the Alpha and the Omega--the
Beginning and the End. To all who are thirsty I will
give the springs of the water of life without charge!
All who are faithful will inherit all these blessings,
and I will be their God, and they will be my children.
But cowards who turn away from me, and unbelievers,
and the corrupt, and the immoral, and those who
practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all
liars--their doom is in the lake that burns with fire
and sulfur. This is the second death."
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At Birth We Bring Nothing With Us;
At Death We Take Nothing Away |
Kabajashi San
Minmatar
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.12.12 20:13:00 -
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Let HIM come and prove what he is made of. One on one, weapon of his choice, anywhere, anyplace. I'm waiting.
All you talk is words ...
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:29:00 -
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Mr. San ...
Weapon: cloning error.
Location: some indefinite place and time in the future.
I generally find it unwise to challenge gods, including the ones I don't believe in. It seems like tempting fate. At the very least, if some misfortune should befall you in the near or even relatively distant future, you've just handed the faithful a means to claim you to have been personally smitten for your arrogance. If, on the other hand, you suffer no such misfortune, the faithful will rather smugly suggest that the punishment for your effrontery awaits in the next world.
It really doesn't help you out much, either way.
Aria Jenneth
Hakase 016
Omerta Syndicate
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Tablaren
Kingdom of Kador
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:40:00 -
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Ahh, Lady your words echo the truth and the light.
With luck some of the heathens will hear the calling in their hearts and cry out in the darkness that is their souls for light. I wish you g_dspeed in your spreading of the word, may you always find your way.
The Light of Amarr guide you.
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GulletSplitter
Minmatar
Colonial Fleet Services
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.12 22:05:00 -
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This thing went down hill from the title...
"Repent children of the slave races"
Does anyone representing the Amarr religion know how to use a carrot instead of a stick? Referring to non-Amarr as a "slave race" is not exactly going to make people beat a path to the local church.
* sarcasm *
Oh oh! I get to be a slave race! Sign me up!
* end sarcasm *
Where's Archbishop or that Ammatar dude of the church of Abundent Strife..er...life? At least I can read some of their stuff without wanting to beat the life out of the first Amarr priest I see.
I do note that these are my own personal views and not the views of my corp or alliance.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.12 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 12/12/2007 22:15:54
Tablaren:
... *sigh* I suppose this was half inevitable.
Pilot, you seem to be suffering under the mistaken impression that I'm on your side, or that of the Amarr god.
Please understand just exactly how serious I am when I say that I'm not. My spiritual training is in the Achur religion of my homeworld, and while I don't dispute the power and influence of the Amarr, I don't consider the notion of Amarrian dominion over the cluster remotely acceptable. If the time comes, and I hope it will not, I will defend the Caldari State, and, if necessary, Saisio, to my last clone.
Normally, I'm opposed to becoming too deeply and personally entwined in the doings of humanity, but for the survival of my faith I'll make an exception. This was the purpose for which I became a capsuleer, it is the cause for which my human antecedent died, and it is the single human cause to which I owe a shred of loyalty. Where my homeworld is concerned, I am no less opposed to the expansionist ideals of the Amarr than Mr. San is.
However, if that time should come when I find myself obliged to defend my world from the Reclaiming, it will not be the Amarr god I challenge, but the Amarr faithful. I'll keep my battles to this world, and leave the gods their own.
Aria Jenneth
Hakase 016
Omerta Syndicate
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Tablaren
Kingdom of Kador
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.12 22:47:00 -
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 Originally by: GulletSplitter
This thing went down hill from the title...
"Repent children of the slave races"
Does anyone representing the Amarr religion know how to use a carrot instead of a stick? Referring to non-Amarr as a "slave race" is not exactly going to make people beat a path to the local church.
* sarcasm *
Oh oh! I get to be a slave race! Sign me up!
* end sarcasm *
Where's Archbishop or that Ammatar dude of the church of Abundent Strife..er...life? At least I can read some of their stuff without wanting to beat the life out of the first Amarr priest I see.
What about that time I tryed to give you a cute little Gallante slave? Sure she was a pirate through and through, but hey I'm certain she had no moral objections to doing a little bit of housework or such. Actually she looked quite pleased at the prospect of my turning her over to a tall brutor.
Ah the silly little one, she must have been smitten by what could have been her new master.
Ahhh the infatuations of youth.
Bu surely GS you see the message she is trying to convey, it's nothing less then the redemption of ones soul. One should not take offence, you should embrace this message she preaches.
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GulletSplitter
Minmatar
Colonial Fleet Services
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.12 22:58:00 -
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Bah...you were just trying to foist off your hedonistic, drug-ridden, immoral ex-girlfriend on me. I mean most of us break up with our significant others in a much more gentle manner. Throwing her into slavery and then tryng to pass her off to the first Brutor you find isn't exactly the best way to win the heart of somebody.
To be honest she appeared to be enjoying the roleplay.
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Tablaren
Kingdom of Kador
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.12 23:05:00 -
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Our past history was a bit more complex then you make it out to be. However I must assure you that everything done was quite legal in certain areas of space, and the manner in which she was captured and sentanced was quite moral.
Though you are right, she does seem to enjoy it and is eager to serve.
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Wanoah
Minmatar
Msana Foundation
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:13:00 -
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The Scriptures 66.6
So I was at this club. Yeah, club. That's right. No, they probably wouldn't let you in. You have to be known to the management, you know?
So, yeah. I was at this club and, maaan, I had done a metric ****load of Drop. Or was it those blue pills? I forget. either way, I tell you right now I was on the edge of some kind of revelation I swear to the shiny golden ass of the almighty Amarrian god. **** yeah.
So. The Drop. Or the pills. One of them. So, yeah. And I was banging this Gallente chick. 'Exotic Dancer' my black Brutor ass. Primo *****. Went like a 125 mil autocannon. It's that kind of place, I guess, or at least it is when I'm there. And I was on the edge of something. I swear: everything was falling into place for me. I could almost see it: the Truth. The word of holy God himself.
And you know what? That grade A piece of ass was way ahead of me. May the Lord bless her sinful soul. She just came right out and said it as some corrupt old Amarrian fool walked past us: "Those Amarrians," she said, "Are ******* *******s." That was it! That fine lady of the night had nailed it and I told her so.
"All we gotta do now is kill the mother******* and we make the world a better place!" I said.
"You're crazy." She had a point. The drugs do work.
"Amen," I said, "You got any hot friends?"
The rest of the night was all a blur and is pretty much as forgotten as my point. Anyway, you all know I'm right.
Amen.
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Nachshon
Caldari
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.12.13 03:27:00 -
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How about this:
NO.
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Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
The True Meaning of Freedom |
Damion Rayne
Gallente
Enlightend Solutions Inc
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Posted - 2007.12.13 03:47:00 -
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Edited by: Damion Rayne on 13/12/2007 03:47:12
Goodness, another religous zealout bent on bringing his Children back to the fold. I for one will fight you with all my being Sir, as my current love interest is Minmatar, as was my late wife.
It is the folly of all mankind to judge, and to wish it that they and their ways be seen as the one and only True way.
I know several Amarr who would be dissapointed in your ramblings.
-Damion rayne
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Cozak
SPECTRE Ops
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Posted - 2007.12.13 18:37:00 -
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I wouldn't take that rubbish from his/her corp/alliance/race I'd start a war over it if i were you or better yet have someone else kill them for you.
Cozak,
CEO
SPECTRE Ops
Contact me for all your mercenary needs.
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.12.13 18:52:00 -
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Quote:
Goodness, another religous zealout bent on bringing his Children back to the fold. I for one will fight you with all my being Sir, as my current love interest is Minmatar, as was my late wife.
Are all Intaki vile propagators of miscegenation and vice or is it just the irritating ones who seem to be legion on these communication channels?
I'm surprised you fools even managed to retain some semblance of a bloodline.
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Tobias Creed
Minmatar
Draconian Toymaker Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.13 19:12:00 -
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I got tired of hearing sermons when I was about ten. Believe me, nothing you have to say is anything I haven't heard before. There's remarkably little original thought in these things.
My opinions are not the opinions of my corp.
my corp's opinions are far more offensive. |
Damion Rayne
Gallente
Enlightend Solutions Inc
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Posted - 2007.12.13 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Avel Kereka
Quote:
Goodness, another religous zealout bent on bringing his Children back to the fold. I for one will fight you with all my being Sir, as my current love interest is Minmatar, as was my late wife.
Are all Intaki vile propagators of miscegenation and vice or is it just the irritating ones who seem to be legion on these communication channels?
I'm surprised you fools even managed to retain some semblance of a bloodline.
Wow, just wow. So you take my exclamtion of defiance and disbelief in his way as a sign of foolishness? You, Mr Kereka are an Idiot, you are the one who is blind. You are nothing more then a fool with power fantasies wrought be a false god, You only serve a this God, because the people in power over you tell you to.
What a wonderfull god this must be to serve indeed! "Woship me or Die!".
Bah, I stand agaisnt you. Im sure many others do as well. Not to mention we are all SICK of hearing these rediulous sermons on public channels. No one wants to hear you, no one cares. We all have our ways, let us have them and you can go pray to your god in your dark little corner and ask him to vanquish these vile demon spas that walk the universe.
-Damion rayne
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Agustus Caesar
Minmatar
Caesar and Sons Salvaging
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Avel Kereka
Quote:
Goodness, another religous zealout bent on bringing his Children back to the fold. I for one will fight you with all my being Sir, as my current love interest is Minmatar, as was my late wife.
Are all Intaki vile propagators of miscegenation and vice or is it just the irritating ones who seem to be legion on these communication channels?
I'm surprised you fools even managed to retain some semblance of a bloodline.
There's a term for maintaining a "Pure" bloodline, inbreeding. Funny how you try to turn the fact he's not inbred into an insult.
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Naturally my views are my own as I'm not my alliance's spokesman, ect.
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Kabajashi San
Minmatar
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Weapon: cloning error.
Yeah that is exactly the way an Amarr deity would fight. Any decent goddess would take a sword or hords of bees or at least the usual wrath of fire. Amarr god would only mess up my electronics so I die without being able to defend myself.
Need I to say more?
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Kaleigh Doyle
Heavenly Bodies
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:27:00 -
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Do I have to repent right now? I have lots of sinning to do!
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.12.13 23:29:00 -
[20]
Originally by: The Ice'Demon
ôHe will remove all of their sorrows, and there will
be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. For the
old world and its evils are gone forever."
I think that if I was Amarrian, this bit would concern me.
A lot.
But then, I'm just butting in on someone else's conversation; this was addressed to the "children of the slave races" -- and while I don't know of any "slave races", if I ever come across one I'll be sure to pass them your message before I set about breaking their chains.
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Becq Starforged
proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today! |
Ashar KorAzor
Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.14 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Ashar KorAzor on 14/12/2007 00:12:01
Where do these badly executed and poorly-thought-out efforts come from? There've been too many of late.
Captain, I urge you to drop by the nearest Imperial university station and enroll yourself in a post-graduate course in classic Amarrian diplomacy. Make sure to get a physical professor, specifically one of sufficient experience to browbeat you into submission when you try something as amazing as this.
Note: A careful study of the majority of Amarrian diplomats shows that while they are xenophobic in the way of their people, they are not thoughtlessly insulting in most cases, save for certain people high enough in the chain of command to easily get away with rudeness and stupidity - but even these were replaced by the more capable eventually.
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Ashar KorAzor
Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.14 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Ashar KorAzor on 14/12/2007 00:19:40
Originally by: Wanoah
The Scriptures 66.6
So I was at this club. Yeah, club. That's right. No, they probably wouldn't let you in. You have to be known to the management, you know?
So, yeah. I was at this club and, maaan, I had done a metric ****load of Drop. Or was it those blue pills? I forget. either way, I tell you right now I was on the edge of some kind of revelation I swear to the shiny golden ass of the almighty Amarrian god. **** yeah.
So. The Drop. Or the pills. One of them. So, yeah. And I was banging this Gallente chick. 'Exotic Dancer' my black Brutor ass. Primo *****. Went like a 125 mil autocannon. It's that kind of place, I guess, or at least it is when I'm there. And I was on the edge of something. I swear: everything was falling into place for me. I could almost see it: the Truth. The word of holy God himself.
And you know what? That grade A piece of ass was way ahead of me. May the Lord bless her sinful soul. She just came right out and said it as some corrupt old Amarrian fool walked past us: "Those Amarrians," she said, "Are ******* *******s." That was it! That fine lady of the night had nailed it and I told her so.
"All we gotta do now is kill the mother******* and we make the world a better place!" I said.
"You're crazy." She had a point. The drugs do work.
"Amen," I said, "You got any hot friends?"
The rest of the night was all a blur and is pretty much as forgotten as my point. Anyway, you all know I'm right.
Amen.
Captain Msana, take out the drugs and change the political alignment of the swearing and you've done a good job of telling us all about how a half-decent Holder's night out might go these days. Better yet, though, leave the drugs in and we can get a glimpse of a not-so-decent Holder's lifestyle. But if we wanted to really achieve something, we'd drop responding to slander with slander and get back to work on that news agency we were supposed to be founding. I mean, I can be involved in spats all day, but somehow I think both our peoples have certain practices we'd rather not see dragged around in the mud - or should I bring up the terribly small tolerance certain outcasts are given in Tribal culture?
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.12.14 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Agustus Caesar
Originally by: Avel Kereka
Quote:
Goodness, another religous zealout bent on bringing his Children back to the fold. I for one will fight you with all my being Sir, as my current love interest is Minmatar, as was my late wife.
Are all Intaki vile propagators of miscegenation and vice or is it just the irritating ones who seem to be legion on these communication channels?
I'm surprised you fools even managed to retain some semblance of a bloodline.
There's a term for maintaining a "Pure" bloodline, inbreeding.
Amarrians are relatively pure, and our population base is big enough that we need not worry about inbreeding. A biology course might prove enlightening.
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Ashar KorAzor
Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.14 04:50:00 -
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You would have to be more specific, Captain. Enrolling in a diplomacy course and so forth was directed at the Amarrian who was putting up esoteric diagrams and saying odd things about religion while inviting conversion with one hand and putting up notices of abusing Gallente slaves with the other. Talk about mixed messages.
If you're going champion some cause, words are not enough. Actions have to back words up, or your story ends on a low note. That's the only real message there.
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Ardan
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.12.15 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ardan on 15/12/2007 18:17:17
Edited by: Ardan on 15/12/2007 18:16:23
Originally by: GulletSplitter
This thing went down hill from the title...
"Repent children of the slave races"
Actualy, I think the emphesis here should not be on the word slave as much as on the word races. (Races is plural.)
Maybe it is time for the Matari, Caldari, and Gallante to unite and destroy this monster. If you think they are only after the Minmatar, you are sadly mistaken.
"Let them hate us as long as they Fear us." Colligula |
Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.15 19:11:00 -
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Mr. Ardan:
As noted elsewhere, the Caldari are aware of the threat but are not about to upset the balance of power in the cluster in favor of the Gallente. While the link between Caldari and Amarr is strategic rather than a deep and abiding friendship, it is nevertheless as solid as necessity makes it. The only way a joint Gallente/Matari/Caldari war effort against the Amarr works from a Caldari strategic standpoint is if, immediately after the Amarr fall, the Matari and Caldari make common cause against the Gallente.
You'll excuse us if we collectively find that improbable.
Aria Jenneth
Hakase 016
Omerta Syndicate
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Asimov Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.16 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 16/12/2007 14:34:23
Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Mr. Ardan:
As noted elsewhere, the Caldari are aware of the threat but are not about to upset the balance of power in the cluster in favor of the Gallente. While the link between Caldari and Amarr is strategic rather than a deep and abiding friendship, it is nevertheless as solid as necessity makes it. The only way a joint Gallente/Matari/Caldari war effort against the Amarr works from a Caldari strategic standpoint is if, immediately after the Amarr fall, the Matari and Caldari make common cause against the Gallente.
You'll excuse us if we collectively find that improbable.
Aria Jenneth
Hakase 016
Omerta Syndicate
Speak for yourself, heathen. Our Race is deeply bonded with our true brothers, the Amarrians. I would never abandon them in favor of the slave races or even, God forbid, the Gallente. The fact that our alliance was forged to keep the Gallente at bay does not mean we're willing to break it this easily. I have embraced the one true God, and soon our Race must realize that our future depends on a cordial alliance with the Amarr empire, against the slave races and the federation. Only united can we put an end to the under-peoples' schemes against the Divine power that we can wield united.
Everything is possible for him who believes. |
3ll3
Gallente
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.12.16 19:31:00 -
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What with all this negativity over just some words some long dead person wrote, a bit of an over reaction in my opinion.
True I can imagine how it might annoy the Matari people here in the IGS some saying the taboo 'S' word but then it is just words, can't we all just get along, please?
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.16 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 16/12/2007 19:34:12
"Speak for yourself," is it, Mr. Nordir?
I could say the same to you, pilot, and, in fact, will. The Amarrian faith does not hold sway in Caldari space, nor are the Caldari likely to be any more welcoming of Amarrian religion than of selfish Gallentean individualism. The Maker is not the Amarrian god, nor is the Creator, and the Caldari did not win free of the Federation only to bow to the will of another master, which we would have to do, if we converted-- which, indeed, having converted, you will have to do.
The "True Amarr" do not recognize any race as their equal in the eyes of their divinity. To be of another race is to be a subject, if not a slave.
While you, and the Amarr in general, may proselytize in Caldari space, and be tolerated, and even win a few converts, I think you'll find, Mr. Nordir, that the CEP is well-prepared for the eventuality that the Reclaiming resumes its less-peaceful guise, and, furthermore, that the Caldari remain dedicated to remaining themselves. "Remaining themselves" does not mean "converting to an ancient faith from a culture that can't even bring itself to update its starships without consulting holy writ."
Come peacefully, and you've a long hill to climb indeed. Come in force, and be prepared to get shot. Good day, pilot.
Aria Jenneth
Hakase 016
Omerta Syndicate
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Asimov Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.16 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 16/12/2007 21:15:32
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 16/12/2007 21:12:31
Ms. Jenneth, if you would indeed pay any attention to the Holy Scriptures, you would surely know that the people referred to as "slave races" (alternate translation: under-people) are the races that were rightfully enslaved by the Amarrians during the time of their fastest expansion because they were so lowly they hadn't even invented spaceflight or any means to counter the Amarrians' march onwards. Back then, the universe truly was about the survival of the fittest.
As for the relationship between the Caldari state and the Amarr Empire, only time will tell who the superior will be here. However, as long as an alliance stands between us, we are equals, but I still feel that every Caldari should feel obliged to embrace the one true God because He speaks the work of wisdom that have brought the Amarr empire to where it is - second to none. Do you truly believe we would stand any chance against the glory of the God's empire with the godless oligarchy that runs our state? I think not. If we stay allied with the Ammarians, we will crush the minmatar rebels for daring to question the Word of God, and then make the federation repent for their sins against our Race, for that is our destiny.
Everything is possible for him who believes. |
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