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Emah Spina
Chosen Path
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Posted - 2007.12.13 11:08:00 -
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Only given this thing a tiny spin around the block, and I love it. Almost Commandship tank.
But I can make up my mind about the lowslots.
Ofcourse, with dmg mods and a tracking enh in the bottom, CPU becomes a problem.
Whats peoples opinion about the broad??
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.13 11:56:00 -
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HIC's role implies that you will have to tank pretty much whatever ship up to capital/supercapital can throw for a good ammount of time.
so tank it and disregard firepower.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2007.12.13 11:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Grimpak
HIC's role implies that you will have to tank pretty much whatever ship up to capital/supercapital can throw for a good ammount of time.
so tank it and disregard firepower.
This man speaks the truth.
There are a few applications for a speedtanked hic, but they are few and random.
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Emah Spina
Chosen Path
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Posted - 2007.12.13 12:16:00 -
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I already have a amazing shield tank on it.
With 3 lows to spare after dmg control.
speed or gank or pdu's??
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.13 12:20:00 -
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Speed fit if you don't intend to use 'crippled' mode.
Tank fit otherwise.
DPS is not your role. Don't bother.
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Sedai Hara
The Forsakened Companions
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.12.13 12:21:00 -
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Power diags i say.
They boost everything for next to no fitting. though to throw in a nano or inertia stab to enhance the agility could be good. giving it alittle better survival rate(warp out faster? not realy speed-tanked)
Encountered loads on them on sisi that here 100% nanoed. but then you kinda takes away their intended use, which isnt good. Better to get into a vaga if nano is your stuff. But you obviously allready know this.
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Phoenicia
Black Sea Industries
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.12.13 12:23:00 -
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Shieldtanks benefit from PDU's. If CPU is a problem, fit a Coproc, cause in this case, you want all the tank you can get.
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Emah Spina
Chosen Path
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Posted - 2007.12.13 12:46:00 -
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Havent had then chance to test it in bubble mode yet.
Looking at the disruption field, its hard to figure out what its speed will be with bubble up.
Sofar I got well over 80% shield resists, 3km/s and cap injectors to keep it running for a quite some time.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.13 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Emah Spina
Havent had then chance to test it in bubble mode yet.
Looking at the disruption field, its hard to figure out what its speed will be with bubble up.
Sofar I got well over 80% shield resists, 3km/s and cap injectors to keep it running for a quite some time.
Assume base velocity. Speed boost is severely reduced, and sig is increased, which means a MWD = you die.
And not many people fit ABs.
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Monticore D'Muertos
Caldari
United Society Starfleet
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Posted - 2007.12.13 13:11:00 -
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i can fly hic but havent trained for the bubble do the penalties apply from the disruptor with the single point script in? a broadsword nanoed up sounds nice with full med for shield tank might be better than a vaga?
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.13 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Monticore D'Muertos
i can fly hic but havent trained for the bubble do the penalties apply from the disruptor with the single point script in? a broadsword nanoed up sounds nice with full med for shield tank might be better than a vaga?
the script removes all penalties but the ability of being remote repped
also, the script is far from single point. more like 100 points (if dump stats are not mistaken)
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Emah Spina
Chosen Path
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Posted - 2007.12.13 13:23:00 -
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I mostly had the single-victim script in mind. High-slot tacklemodule had such a big appeal to me :)
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.13 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Monticore D'Muertos
i can fly hic but havent trained for the bubble do the penalties apply from the disruptor with the single point script in? a broadsword nanoed up sounds nice with full med for shield tank might be better than a vaga?
the script removes all penalties but the ability of being remote repped
also, the script is far from single point. more like 100 points (if dump stats are not mistaken)
It might as well be. I tested in SiSi against an alt in a 7 stab typhoon, and that alt wasn't able to warp. (Couldn't fly an 8 low ship)
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Monticore D'Muertos
Caldari
United Society Starfleet
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Posted - 2007.12.13 14:16:00 -
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i knew about the multi point had a friend test it on a 8 stabbed mega, just wasn't sure about the penalties with script in so you can fit 2 x large ext, 2x resists, web, mwd, maybe 1or 2 gyros, 2x od, and 2x poly
with a high slot faction(better) scram, up to 30km right?
if you can get this going over 4km/s with max nav and some rogues, might be better thana vaga , less dmg but more tank , can remove the web for soemthing else tracking disruptor/another ext/invul/cap injector (for mwd)
i'm gonna have to play with it and the nanoonyx aswell
looks promising
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.13 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 13/12/2007 14:29:30
Originally by: Monticore D'Muertos
i knew about the multi point had a friend test it on a 8 stabbed mega, just wasn't sure about the penalties with script in so you can fit 2 x large ext, 2x resists, web, mwd, maybe 1or 2 gyros, 2x od, and 2x poly
with a high slot faction(better) scram, up to 30km right?
if you can get this going over 4km/s with max nav and some rogues, might be better thana vaga , less dmg but more tank , can remove the web for soemthing else tracking disruptor/another ext/invul/cap injector (for mwd)
i'm gonna have to play with it and the nanoonyx aswell
looks promising
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speed fits in a broadsword are only ok if you're going unscripted WDFG, since the ship's so heavy that 4km/sec with all that magickery is not that great (and you can't even use the mwd in field mode). Firepower on the ship is slim at best, and faction WDFG? I only saw one type of WDFG in the market and that's the stock T1 one.
cramming lows with PDU's and keep the meds as you posted. slap purger rigs and fit whatever guns you have space for after you fit it all. you have space for 425's with barrage and get a good range from it.
also, keep in mind that all the HIC's, bar the devoter, have the same firepower as their T1 hulls, without factoring drones.
The devoter is somewhat special, since at HIC lvl5, it can do a bit more damage than the maller, but tbh, these ships are not for damage.
These are all setups that I cooked up in 5 minutes. As you can see they show what these ships are supposed to do: recieve punishment for time enough for the support to come to save your ass or pop the capital you're engaging.
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Victor Ivanov
Minmatar
The Fated
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.13 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Ivanov on 13/12/2007 14:31:29
Definitely want to go passive shield tank on this one.
Highs: Warp disruption field
Meds: 4-5(Not sure anymore if it's 6 or 5 med slots. -_-) large shield extenders, 1 mwd. Don't bother with tackling gear.
lows: PDU II, 3 shield relays, or 2 relays and one DCU. I need to try out the latter over the former sometime when I next log on. :D
Rigs: Probably two Purgers will work better than one purger and one kinetic screen enforcer. Not sure on that either, will have to **** around and see what I get. :)
But yeah, as others said: leave speed fit for dictors. You aren't a "tackler" anymore. You are a moving bubble, and a specialist capital in place keeper.
Don't bother with speed, or dps for that matter. Some 220mm vulcans should probably fit, use that for most of your dps. Suppose you COULD solo in it, but it's better suited for a strong shield tanking moving bubble.
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Xyleya
moon7empler
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.12.13 14:45:00 -
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With the Broadsword tanked for tackling Moms I go for:
High: 5x 220mm AC II, WDFG (with Script)
Meds: 10MN MWD II, 4xLSE II, Kinetic Deflection Amp II
Lows: 3x PDU II, SPR II
Rigs: 2x Core Defence Field Purger I
Leaves you with around 18k Shield @ 350sec Recharge resulting in 480DPS tanked.
The PDUs are necessary, as the WDFG takes huge amounts of Cap.
For LowSec camping just switch one LSE II for a Sensorbooster with ScanResolution Script, and leave the beating up to your gangmates, if it's something bigger.
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Monticore D'Muertos
Caldari
United Society Starfleet
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Posted - 2007.12.13 15:09:00 -
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i was thinking for solo work hehe
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Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.13 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Monticore D'Muertos
i can fly hic but havent trained for the bubble do the penalties apply from the disruptor with the single point script in? a broadsword nanoed up sounds nice with full med for shield tank might be better than a vaga?
the script removes all penalties but the ability of being remote repped
also, the script is far from single point. more like 100 points (if dump stats are not mistaken)
It might as well be. I tested in SiSi against an alt in a 7 stab typhoon, and that alt wasn't able to warp. (Couldn't fly an 8 low ship)
It's 100 points. Effectively infinite since no ship can fit 100 stabs.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.13 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Monticore D'Muertos
i was thinking for solo work hehe
for solo work there are better, and cheaper options than a HIC.
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