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Listen up you loquacious ************:

1.) People are lazy; they want to know if sifting through your post is worth their time. Update your T.L. D.R. summary to a real TLDR. As it is now, your summary just lists your goals, with no information given on how you propose to achieve them.

2.) Your verbal diarrhea is obnoxious. The verbose posts make it really difficult to see what youGÇÖre proposing. IGÇÖve read several sections, reread them, and am still confused. Since you canGÇÖt give me my time back, can you CONCISELY explain what youGÇÖre proposing?

3.) My understanding so far: GÇ£I want to improve mini-professions by introducing new tools and sites so they can get materials to create programs. These programs will be applied (somehow) to research, invention, and manufacturing to create T2 and Meta level BPCGÇÖs. Oh yeah.. new ships to pleazzz.GÇ¥ What did I miss? And do you know how research and invention currently work in game?

Idea isnt finished I cannot give you a real TL;DR any time soon, so I gave you my objectives of what I was going to do in the end, I sincerly apologize if this pisses you off but giving you a detaied list now would be lying to you as ideas change constantly.

You have to understand the thread is under heavy construction I'm running around with a pair of scissors chopping out ALOT of things, I just managed to delete a quater of the thread so far yesterday and I am waiting for the peice of paper to stop falling down before trying again. I also had to copy past from the old thread and with the new character limits older posts that had to get sheered off into thier own topics becuase of the character limit are no longer needed as the extra 2k eats the posts back up so I'm having to do alot of revisions and combined with the fact I'm also introducing the other two professions into the idea as it was originally just archeologist not salvagers and hackers included is requiring I do even more chopping around to account for thier existence for now. The appendixies are mostly going to stay the same but doesnt mean I wont try to compress those either.

Yes I do know how they work I've done some of it and its a pertty 'low ceiling' still that SP is the only real bar raiser, new tools and materials really dont change much of anything of how its done. You still throw in gocery list into the process and possibly get a result out. Where the personal labs would still require the grocery list but requires folks to understand when is a good time to stop or when is it a good time to take that business elsewhere.

Your assumption about me wanting to have just to have new ships is mostly wrong. Its the other way around I would like fuller professions, Ships and Tools are just means to the end but not restrictions as regular ships can fit thier tools and do it not as efficenlty, just like a mining rohk verses a hulk. Two its not really about new ships, just new models, ships came after the new modules, and like I said earlier the entire idea is under heavy re-construction from migrating the old fourum the 4k charater limited force things to happen and with it up to 6k now things that where forced are getting removed remerged and rethought, its going to take a while with my spare time. Programs are just what products the science side are going to deal with, phsyical things such as custom ammo or other odd ends is what the industry side is going to mess around with.

Ultimately for you Ill say one thing, come back in a month then you can yell at me again if you feel like it I might make more use of it as for now you complaining about how horrible this thread is isnt helping me at all as its on the wall of "I already know this".

This is my long term project it will be here still a year later and its been around for the previous 3 years, and I am still hammering out the dents kinks bruises and all other problems that keep arising.

So once again I apologize for the bad thread, its a survivor from the old fourum it will take some time to heal it.

Sorry, my idea isnGÇÖt finished, so I really donGÇÖt have a TL;DR. Instead, I gave you my objectives of what I want to accomplish. As I work on the details, I keep changing stuff. For example, I originally only focused on the archeology profession, but then expanded to other professions too. My time is limited, and between post limits and my attempts to consolidate the 50 pages of thought I have, I need time to get it all down. Come back in a month when I have everything worked out.

As for your summaryGǪ I donGÇÖt just want new ships, I want fully developed alternative professions, which includes missions, ships, and modules.

Finally, telling me my posts suck doesnGÇÖt help me. I know my posts need improvementGǪ

IGÇÖm trying to help you, not by calling your post sucky, but by pointing out the areas that need improvement:

1.) Be more concise. Your posts are long winded with lots of unnecessary explanations and addendums. Extra suggestions and ideas drown out everythingGǪ burying your ideas.

2.) You donGÇÖt need to include so many details. For the most part, CCP will do what CCP wants, and the details you provide should only outline the idea. YouGÇÖve read this example post: For a big suggestion like yours, I would recommend using that as a guide (Although it too has extraneous stuff that ought to be trimmed.)

3.) You donGÇÖt need to include the kitchen sinkGǪ Perhaps just stick to your original idea of archeology only. As a P.S. at the end, mention that other professions could also be expanded.

4.) I would scratch this thread, write out your idea in a word editor, edit it over a few days, and then post it in a new thread. As a rule of thumb, to get people to read and comment on it, it needs to be aesthetically formatted, punctuated, and fit within one post (two at max).

5.) Don't post the idea until you have a clear idea of what you are going to post. If you can't TL;DR it, you probably shouldn't post it.

Report it I dare you.

My attention span faltered on this did you cover the faction evolution of mankind EoM?

Thread cleaned from off topic posts.

Please keep this on topic, thank you!

Yes finally, someone with long posts that give the WHOLE thing, makes it quite clear to tell EXACTLY what your proposal is, and i must say this would be a lot of work, however it seems like it would be cool

Wow, I must say your attention to detail is astounding and quite refreshing, to say the least.

I mainly did a brief causal survey of the entire thread. I will bookmark it and dive into it with more intensity later when time permits.


P.S.
Condensing information is good, just don't delete valuable info needed to convey the full scope of your ideas.