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true enjoyment GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.18 21:01:00 - [91] Edited by: true enjoyment on 18/12/2007 21:01:18 i hope it doesn't go that far edit: i will stop flying if it seems like it is going to go this far
Zenst Gallente Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.12.18 21:12:00 - [92] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr You're all jumping to conclusions. You have to shoot the animal before you can eat it. I'm soooo not having lobster at your house, and sushi is well of the menu :D
Zenst Gallente Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.12.18 21:15:00 - [93] Originally by: true enjoyment Edited by: true enjoyment on 18/12/2007 21:01:18 i hope it doesn't go that far edit: i will stop flying if it seems like it is going to go this far I sence a disturbance in the force.
Zanquis	Posted - 2007.12.18 21:20:00 - [94] Be careful what you wish for. Most especially if your in Goon I would start to look forward and think about your future. The enemy you know is easier to deal with then the enemy you do not. If BoB fractures do not fool yourself into thinking that they will all go their separate ways and be hunted down by everybody out of revenge for BoB. They still have a fantastic amount of cap pilots and a Titan and those assets will go somewhere. The disbandment of BoB could cause a massive power shift which nobody saw coming because its very possible their assets can fall to another alliance you never thought of before and make them a sudden super power with a large cap fleet and a titan. Hate them or like them, if your running an alliance and have the opportunity to pick up some of BoB's more powerful corps I think you might jump at that opportunity so long as you see eye to eye.
fell1234 Heracles.	Posted - 2007.12.18 21:28:00 - [95] Originally by: Zanquis Be careful what you wish for. Most especially if your in Goon I would start to look forward and think about your future. The enemy you know is easier to deal with then the enemy you do not. If BoB fractures do not fool yourself into thinking that they will all go their separate ways and be hunted down by everybody out of revenge for BoB. They still have a fantastic amount of cap pilots and a Titan and those assets will go somewhere. The disbandment of BoB could cause a massive power shift which nobody saw coming because its very possible their assets can fall to another alliance you never thought of before and make them a sudden super power with a large cap fleet and a titan. Hate them or like them, if your running an alliance and have the opportunity to pick up some of BoB's more powerful corps I think you might jump at that opportunity so long as you see eye to eye. Dont waken the slumbering giant!
Dirap GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.18 21:31:00 - [96] Originally by: Princess Hopy What most of the people here dont get is that even if BoB is pushed out from their current territory it still took a very large force to do so. BoB is still, even after this, capable of taking any alliance in the game 1vs1 and claiming their space very quickly. Then the only thing that can be done to stop this is to bring the same huge blob of alliances to attack them again.. I dont know, but to me that sounds like alot of work and not particularily fun. What i'd like to see would be BoB utilizing their superiour capital fleet and basing from npc space striking strategic targets, destroying them and leaving them in ruins before moving to a new target again. When bob is pushed out of their space, it is very unlikely that it will be the same bob that we know and love today. Loosing your home space has a very serious demoralizing affect. Search for "failure cascade". Many alliances who have come before and been destroyed have tried to spin their defeat as "Now we don't have POSes to weight us down and we can be even more powerful then before!! ". It has never worked out like that.
true enjoyment GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.18 21:34:00 - [97] Originally by: fell1234 Originally by: Zanquis Be careful what you wish for. Most especially if your in Goon I would start to look forward and think about your future. The enemy you know is easier to deal with then the enemy you do not. If BoB fractures do not fool yourself into thinking that they will all go their separate ways and be hunted down by everybody out of revenge for BoB. They still have a fantastic amount of cap pilots and a Titan and those assets will go somewhere. The disbandment of BoB could cause a massive power shift which nobody saw coming because its very possible their assets can fall to another alliance you never thought of before and make them a sudden super power with a large cap fleet and a titan. Hate them or like them, if your running an alliance and have the opportunity to pick up some of BoB's more powerful corps I think you might jump at that opportunity so long as you see eye to eye. Dont waken the slumbering giant! exactly. BoB might be weak now but if they ally with an enemy alliance they might become too strong if we [goons] exterminate them then theyre hate will be undying. we would have to stop taking in newbees (new-bees) because of the fear of spies and drama and frankly goonswarm is built on a base of new bees. they are very important to how goonfleet operates and as you can plainly see forcing bob to dismantle and move to empire or to another alliance would be disasterous
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.18 21:49:00 - [98] Hey Bob, can I has ur stufz? Wherever you go... There you are...
Rocka Stargirl Hugs for the Hug Throne	Posted - 2007.12.18 22:01:00 - [99] Maybe now is the time to discuss a loan for BoB. Kind of like how Bill Gates gave Apple 150 million dollars when it looked like they were going under, to avoid being the only serious OS on the block. (**** you linux fanbois) Goons don't want to become the MicroSoft of EVE, amirite? ---
true enjoyment GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.18 22:08:00 - [100] Originally by: Rocka Stargirl Maybe now is the time to discuss a loan for BoB. Kind of like how Bill Gates gave Apple 150 million dollars when it looked like they were going under, to avoid being the only serious OS on the block. (**** you linux fanbois) Goons don't want to become the MicroSoft of EVE, amirite? i don't know why bill gates did it but i know he probably did it to take over apple
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.18 22:09:00 - [101] Edited by: Plutoinum on 18/12/2007 22:10:13 Originally by: Blitz'Krieg Perhaps offer finfleet amnesty from future action if they pulled out (they did join late in the game)? The idea to try to make some opponents' ingame lifes miserable forever is rediculous anyway. There must be really strong reasons to do that. Yes, I know that there was some trouble between Goons and BoB, not that story again. Well, besides that Finfleet will survive anyway. They existed on their own, before they lived with Chimaera Pact and LV in conquerable space. They can probably also live a few months in npc space again without splitting up. And about hate against the other corps: Ok, maybe I understand, why you dislike some individuals from BoB, but 'hating' whole corps ? I also don't understand, what kind of problem people have with Lady Scarlet. I know, she was a high ranking director in ATUK, and is probably also in DICE, but on the forums she's rather quiet. Don't see her flaming tbh, nevertheless she seems to be one of THE targets for extreme smack. No clue, why people say they want to hunt her down even after the war. Well, those people will get bored of it sooner or later.
Rui Nosferatu The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.18 22:10:00 - [102] Well i was in LV when we got pwned by the coalition. Really enjoyed it actually, i like pleasure and pain haha. What would have helped LV if Velios and his crew didnt run off at the first sign of big trouble. And that Chowdown and Lallante did not vanish into the mist when we needed a rapid consolidation plan to fortify one or two systems like RA did. But that didn't happen and as they say thats show business. As long as BOB's leadership dont go running into grassy fields naked gaga from panic we can expect very stiff resistance which would be fitting to the arrogant devils :)
WrathOfOprah Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.18 22:16:00 - [103] Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 18/12/2007 22:10:13 Originally by: Blitz'Krieg Perhaps offer finfleet amnesty from future action if they pulled out (they did join late in the game)? The idea to try to make some opponents' ingame lifes miserable forever is rediculous anyway. There must be really strong reasons to do that. Yes, I know that there was some trouble between Goons and BoB, not that story again. All has been forgiven. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. --John 3:23
Cvuos GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.18 22:19:00 - [104] That's the point. Most of BoB are in BoB because they want to win. It's not about "getting a good fight" or "banding with brothers". That's crap you say on the forums so you look even better when you win. When the winning stops, the would-be winners stop xing up. Cruising around Delve you see quite a few ratting Ravens flow by sub-12 month chars with ~~*pRouD m3mb4 of da BAND OF BROTHARZ*~~ in their bio and only empire merc / pirate corps in ther employment history. This is the bloat of BoB, casual players that will leave quietly when the going gets tough. Maybe the core will stick around. To do what? Camp lowsec with supercaps? It's funny how the theorycrafters in here assume that the first thing a de-regioned, de-posed entity will do is start sieging poses and taking regions.
Jovoich Towers Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.18 22:23:00 - [105] I for one hope BOB wins. Why? simply because you all expect them to fail. GL BOB
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.18 22:24:00 - [106] Originally by: WrathOfOprah And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. --John 3:23 Yes, that's what I mean. Let's just be a little bit more nice. It's almost chrismas anyway. Amen.
Blitz'Krieg Caldari SkyMarshal Logistics	Posted - 2007.12.19 01:47:00 - [107] Originally by: George Clinton Originally by: Blitz'Krieg Perhaps offer finfleet amnesty from future action if they pulled out (they did join late in the game)? finfleet was in lotka volterra you stupid****got so lotka volterra have the same never ending hate relationship as BoB? I could understand the BoB hatred from "there are no goons" which I personally hated (and I believe got flamed about after a post of mine) but comon for gods sake, you cant hate EVERYONE to the end of time otherwise wtf is the point? The point I was trying to make with finfleet is that the only way to break an alliance is from the inside. Allowing finfleet to go their own way would be knocking of X amount of players from BoB. Break up the alliance, not the corps and then truly you can claim victory.
General Tsao GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.19 01:53:00 - [108] Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 18/12/2007 14:38:04 Originally by: Cvuos LV is a great example. They were tied together by a culture of success. When success is gone, there is no unity anymore. I been there when Velios came on crossroad with left turn for PvP life or right turn for picking up flowers in his guarden. He didnt take left turn. Thats the difference between many others and BoB. And after all this time ppl dont get it still. Anybody esle, ANYBODY else that would be in our shoes would already see many members not loging on, or leaving corps and alliances. Maybe one day, after many glasses of milk, you might realize what benefit some, and others not Even Cincinattus was a farmer, just sayin.
General Tsao GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.19 01:56:00 - [109] Originally by: Plutoinum I also don't understand, what kind of problem people have with Lady Scarlet. I know, she was a high ranking director in ATUK, and is probably also in DICE, but on the forums she's rather quiet. Don't see her flaming tbh, nevertheless she seems to be one of THE targets for extreme smack. No clue, why people say they want to hunt her down even after the war. Well, those people will get bored of it sooner or later. She has a big mouth if you know what I mean. She also throws her weight around in local and is therefore quite a large target for smacktalk and flames. If she would minimize the impact she has on her immediate surroundings she could really leave less of an impression on everyone.
Orion Moonstar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.19 02:10:00 - [110] I [support/refute] the [idea/inferences/wild theory] made by [the op/above poster] and will fully [wait/cry] until I see this [proven/implemented]. Yours [in hatred/truly] LOVEU
UneFraiseDansUneChaise GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.19 02:18:00 - [111] Originally by: General Tsao Originally by: Plutoinum I also don't understand, what kind of problem people have with Lady Scarlet. I know, she was a high ranking director in ATUK, and is probably also in DICE, but on the forums she's rather quiet. Don't see her flaming tbh, nevertheless she seems to be one of THE targets for extreme smack. No clue, why people say they want to hunt her down even after the war. Well, those people will get bored of it sooner or later. She has a big mouth if you know what I mean. She also throws her weight around in local and is therefore quite a large target for smacktalk and flames. If she would minimize the impact she has on her immediate surroundings she could really leave less of an impression on everyone. But yet, I feel an inexorable gravitation to her generous personality - largesse, if you will.
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.19 03:17:00 - [112] Originally by: UneFraiseDansUneChaise Goons fascination with insulting the larger members of the internet is humors at least and gut-wrenching funny at medium. Ask not of most. Since most goons are either freakishly thing or freakishly large, it stands to reason that all of the insults and hate come from repressed self-loathing.
UneFraiseDansUneChaise GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.19 03:21:00 - [113] Originally by: Ungdall Originally by: UneFraiseDansUneChaise Goons fascination with insulting the larger members of the internet is humors at least and gut-wrenching funny at medium. Ask not of most. Since most goons are either freakishly thing or freakishly large, it stands to reason that all of the insults and hate come from repressed self-loathing. ~im a seksi girl, y'al jus JEALUS~
Spaace GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.19 03:38:00 - [114] Originally by: Ungdall Goons fascination with insulting the larger members of the internet is humors at least and gut-wrenching funny at medium. Ask not of most. Since most goons are either freakishly thing or freakishly large, it stands to reason that all of the insults and hate come from repressed self-loathing. I, for one, am not so fascinated with large members. "Stand still and consider the wondrous works of OHGOD." - Brosefs 37:14 *click*
CueBee Vengeance of the Fallen	Posted - 2007.12.19 05:16:00 - [115] Originally by: Blitz'Krieg so lotka volterra have the same never ending hate relationship as BoB? Yes? Part of the Xirt School of Intel is the important Brainwashing 101 class. I'd suggest that assuming BoB is dead "just because" is a good way to get lax, and find out the hard way that they are still fighting. --- heehaw?
Dafuzz Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.19 05:40:00 - [116] Originally by: TroNaaR Hey Bob, can I has ur stufz? Why yes you can, kill us first. -- -If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets..
DeadDuck Amarr Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.19 10:01:00 - [117] My 2 cents of what will happen: 1) BOB will not die has alliance; 2) Even if they loose all the space, they will go reshape a bit in empire and make a huge cleansing in their ranks, reducing their members in about 2/3, and probably getting rid of all the spys; 3) Reshape a bit more; 4) Strike again. I just cant see them dying because they lost a region (IF they loose)...
Mynx La'Rue GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.19 10:05:00 - [118] Originally by: Dafuzz Originally by: TroNaaR Hey Bob, can I has ur stufz? Why yes you can, kill us first. Now entire EVE universe is fighting with BoB. How long can you hold, how do you think? Weeks, months? I say, you should surrender to avoid greater losses. You fought with honour, now loose with honour.
Cvuos GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.19 10:07:00 - [119] Originally by: Mynx La'Rue You fought with honour, now loose with honour. I would of choosen that to.
Major Donkage Piss Bottle Junkies	Posted - 2007.12.19 10:34:00 - [120] Originally by: Cvuos Originally by: Mynx La'Rue You fought with honour, now loose with honour. I would of choosen that to. me to dawg sips mojito Signature removed. Lacks Eve Content - Valorem hay guyz wuts happenen in dis thread? not vasili z dawg

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