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shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 14:50:00 - [1] Edited by: shaerc on 18/12/2007 14:55:44 With the war allegedly winding down and entering it's final big phase, who does everyone think has been the most important alliances for both sides, and had the most impact? For me I'd say BOB Side: 1. BOB 2. MC - Run BOB very close for top spot for their job hitting the Northern powerblock and then strong work in Querious/Catch 3. FIX - For consistancy and staying power mostly 4. RISE - Often mocked but really lasted way beyond most peoples expectations, and provided a good buffer 5. AXE - did a good job in Fountain early in the war, stuck with BOB a long time, seem to have faded now from view The BOB side has really though mostly been the BOB and MC show, with a lot of smaller helping alliances. Coalition side: 1. -A- - The most heavy weight Coalition alliance. Seemed to be the only alliance with the power and poise to really get at the BOB capital fleet during BOB's peak. Helped IAC as well as opening up another front. 2. Tau Ceti Federation - Debatable? Have become more important as the war has gone on. Under rated alliance. Have done tremendous work recently and really carried the fight. 3. Pandemic Legion - Played an important role in whittling down the meatshield between BOB and the Coalition 4. Goonswarm - Few victories, but have fought tirelessly 5. Razor - The one northern alliance who has really stuck with this war from start to finish
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 14:55:00 - [2] Originally by: Xeno Metamorph uhm, I don't see no Red Alliance in there :x To be perfectly honest, they have been half hearted the entire war. A few periods of heavy involvement with their cap fleet, but spent more time generally chasing ROADKILL and other involvements.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:01:00 - [3] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs yeah, no Red Alliance... sorry but are you new? I think Razor deserve more credit. They were the only nothern alliance to show full commitment. They fought hard at the start. Got rolled up by MC. Bounced back, returned South and have been fighting ever since. For persistantly fighting and putting pressure on BOB through out the course of the war, I think they pipped Red Alliance's occassional if powerful contributions.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:03:00 - [4] Originally by: Varicella Zoster Originally by: shaerc Edited by: shaerc on 18/12/2007 14:55:445. Razor - The one northern alliance who has really stuck with this war from start to finish In the meantime, MM has been mining Veldspar. Oh, and the MH capital fleet in Fountain is an imaginary one! I'm not saying MM have fought badly. I don't consider yourself one of the heavy hitters or major shapers of the war though. I don't think MM's effect has been more than a whole range of alliances. Do your own list if you disagree.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:09:00 - [5] Edited by: shaerc on 18/12/2007 15:09:13 Originally by: fell1234 Originally by: shaerc Originally by: EVIL SYNNs yeah, no Red Alliance... sorry but are you new? I think Razor deserve more credit. They were the only nothern alliance to show full commitment. They fought hard at the start. Got rolled up by MC. Bounced back, returned South and have been fighting ever since. For persistantly fighting and putting pressure on BOB through out the course of the war, I think they pipped Red Alliance's occassional if powerful contributions. Really should post when its evident you havent played much. You do smell of ex-goon tbqh tho. I've been fully involved from day one, with characters in alliances on both sides of the war at various times. I don't know what your problem is. Do your own list if you don't like mine. Red Alliance are a really good alliance, no disrespect to them. They are one of the best in the game when properly motivated. I just don't think they deserve as much credit or have played a big enough part over time to be on my list.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:15:00 - [6] Originally by: fell1234 Thats kind of why its evident you are an armchair eve player. You still smell of ex-goon btw. Mind naming your goon char? I'm a.....what? Am I supposed to play standing up or something? "ex-goon" depends what you mean. I've had an account on SA years before Goonfleet was made, or any of the Goon corps which predated Goonfleet for that matter. I've had several alts although not my main in Goonfleet at several times. I've been in, and am in, quite a few alliances though. And yeah, I fight, if you're trying to have a pathetic dig about that. Anyway please stop de-railing. If you don't like my list for some reason, give some reasons.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:19:00 - [7] Edited by: shaerc on 18/12/2007 15:26:04 Edited by: shaerc on 18/12/2007 15:20:38 Originally by: duckmonster Goonswarm few victories Other than all of them? I can't think of any Alliances we've lost to and I don't think there are any. Even "The big one", BOB, we kinda drove out of the south. I wasn't having a go, be chill. Goonswarm have been an important component of many mixed Coalition fleets. I wasn't implying otherwise. I don't think you've done so well purely on your own merits, compared to say -A- though. God, if I knew everyone was going to be so defensive about where their alliances were placed... You can disagree with me on who think has been most important, please post it. I was more wondering what everyone thought, than wanting my own list critiqued. I accept my list is merely my own personal experiences.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:29:00 - [8] Originally by: Dramaticus you should have just stopped after 2 on the BoB side because wow are the other 3 pretty useless Well... There's definitely a drop off after 2) on the BOB list. BOB's war has more been a bit of a one or two man effort, with a big but slightly unimportant supporting cast. The coalition is a more even effort. But credit to a lot of the GBC alliances. It took the Coalition a long time to chew through them and they have fought hard. RMF, RISE, FIX, AXE and others have done a good job.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Juha85 Originally by: duckmonster Goonswarm few victories Other than all of them? I can't think of any Alliances we've lost to and I don't think there are any. Even "The big one", BOB, we kinda drove out of the south. Goonswarm on its own hasn't achieved anything. Or atleast im yet to see the goon-only fleet do anything. The goon meatshield combined with the RA capital fleet on the other hand... They've won plenty of battles by themselves from what I've seen. They are more a supporting alliance though, and maybe lack a bit of punch despite their size by themselves. They've worked hard.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:32:00 - [10] Originally by: HotSeat Originally by: Dramaticus you should have just stopped after 2 on the BoB side because wow are the other 3 pretty useless Disagree- RISE did keep PL in RIT area for 4-5 weeks, thats alot of griefing that could have been somewhere else. Drivel. RISE had been under attack for months and months before Pandemic moved in.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:38:00 - [11] Originally by: DaiTengu Originally by: shaerc Originally by: HotSeat Originally by: Dramaticus you should have just stopped after 2 on the BoB side because wow are the other 3 pretty useless Disagree- RISE did keep PL in RIT area for 4-5 weeks, thats alot of griefing that could have been somewhere else. Drivel. RISE had been under attack for months and months before Pandemic moved in. Yes, because goonfleet focused all their attention on them for almost 10 months until the alliance was finally broken. Or, we sent a few roaming gangs their way every week or so and that's what rise wanted you to believe. No, you didn't. You sent plenty of "proper" fleets their way, and plenty of them returned home in pods. You had several aborted attempts to take them out, and if they had appeared weaker you would have killed them off far earlier in the war. Of course, no doubt the fact BOB was supporting RISE throughout much of this time was a big factor too. Pandemic did a terrific job harassing an already fairly strained RISE into exhaustion, and dropping their morale (and ultimately driving them away to Fountain where they would eventually disband).
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:03:00 - [12] Edited by: shaerc on 18/12/2007 16:03:57 Originally by: sakana No RA, and no IAC? Even thought the front is currently in IAC's space? IAC have done jack except get r-caged by everyone and make one awful attempt at attacking a FIX station system. Originally by: Pnuka Our side is tough because everyone has stepped up to the number 1 spot at one time or another. You really can't say that for the other side and I think that speaks volumes. This is quite true. Although BOB hasn't really had a lot of opportunity to recruit strong allies (and if the allies were out there, they've failed badly at securing them). No doubt the lack of important alliances bar a couple in the GBC has partly been due to BOB's poor diplomacy and lack of being able to organise a whole coalition.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Traumatica if having....RA complex teams live in your space is what 'fighting off an invasion' means, then mad props to RISE. Yeah you'd have to be a pretty pathetic alliance to have RA complex teams living in your space everyday Oh wait! That's right!! Hahahahahaha
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:16:00 - [14] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs If you are talking about the "great war" (after ASCN before baby LV titan popping to present day). Then (imho) the alliance with greatest impact in the war and not mentioned.. YOU WHAT! If it weren't for YOU WHAT switching, then this war would be where we are now (6-8 months ago). D2 were already in Fountain, Razor were in FIX. The North would be in the south and it would have been goodbye BoB well b4 now I would even rate YouWhat above MC (not that MC's take on the north was not awesome) but that might not have happened if YOU WHAT were still in the Northern side. You're wrong. Also didn't you used to be in Xelas or Aftermath or someone like that? God no wonder the Goons are increasingly sneering at Triumverate if you're the level of recruit.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:23:00 - [15] Originally by: mydingaling The OP has been living under a rock or smoking them. Igneus Auctorita.
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 22:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Jim Linger op: your main has never been in a southern alliance has it? both your lists are bunk, mc is attacking bob btw dumb

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