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WrathOfOprah
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.21 00:53:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Zenst
Originally by: Ur235
Originally by: New ones Local in tpar is now @ 270, Gm's have LOCKED down the system, so pepole cant logg in or jump in. this is some kinda new "feature" 
Typically the GM's are interfering with the battles of the players again. sucks tbh they ahve no right to interfear with our battls
LOL, when you preannounce a huge fleet fight and they make sure the nodes are playable, people moan. When you get a laggy fleet fight with lots in local and people unable to enter the system and node good as dead to all even ingame, you cry for a GM to sort it. Nodes have there finite limits by design and all a GM could possibly do is to limit the numbers like a tap and prevent it overfilling.
That said, any updates on what transpired. Or do I now have to read 15 other threads taking the 13th posts from each and the last word from each to get any form of constructive statement of events.
Well, I guess a little guidance would be nice. How many players can a node handle? When will it get reinforced? What are the limits? If there was a devblog on it or some sort of official "X amount" , that would be nice.
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Franga
NQX Innovations Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.21 01:10:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Originally by: Franga Sorry, that was very personal
Yes it was, also quite old. Perhaps I should create some new material for the trolls.
So's your face!
... uuugh, I've got nothing.  _____________________________
Originally by: Rachel Vend ... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
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JONAS VEXXOR
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.21 01:19:00 -
[123]
It's A Trap!!!
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Aodhan Vitael
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.21 01:58:00 -
[124]
Newbie Tackler Frigate
Xing up
wait...
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Louis Lane
Minmatar Imperium Holding corp
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Posted - 2007.12.21 02:21:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Riddlock All i hope is good fights , good fights that other certain enemies that are spamming CAOD are not able to give us.
lol hypocrite!
99% of the goons need to be taken out now threads are from bob alts trying to deflect the wrath of eve to other targets!
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Louis Lane
Minmatar Imperium Holding corp
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Posted - 2007.12.21 02:24:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Ur235
Originally by: New ones Local in tpar is now @ 270, Gm's have LOCKED down the system, so pepole cant logg in or jump in. this is some kinda new "feature" 
Typically the GM's are interfering with the battles of the players again. sucks tbh they ahve no right to interfear with our battls
par for the course. first let 350 bob in to defend a system then lock down the system..
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.21 02:26:00 -
[127]
The game mechanics are at fault. CCP needs to change its philosophy of how sovereignty is held, that's the only way.
I had an idea of special sovereignty POSes with generators powering them in neighboring systems, not the core system. In order to destroy a sovereignty POS, all generators would need to be held to 10%-20% armor, spreading out a fight to say, sovereignty 4 = 4 generators in 4 neighboring systems. This way the fights are spread out over multiple systems and there's no POS spamming going on all the time, because regular POSes do not hold sovereignty, only Special POSes do and only 1 can be placed in system at a time.
Something like that would change the game mechanics and possibly make this game more enjoyable, but at the very least it might make it playable. Until then, well, enjoy paying your subscription while CCP laughs at all of us all the way to the bank.
'We see nothing in our logs....bla,bla,bla' You would think that after more then five years in business, CCP would create some kind of log program that would actually show them what the problems are. Quite pathetic, actually, that they can be in programming business and don't even recognize or have tools to analyze what are the problems within their own game. Sure does not make me think that they will solve anything any time soon.
The truth will set you free
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Skelator
Stronghold corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.12.21 02:29:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Don Z0LA
Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: Don Z0LA
Originally by: Mitch Taylor 'if' they get a fight, mc will prob come away with the bloody nose. I think their 'conquering' of the north has given them false confidence. Not one of the northern alliances they 'crushed' were competent.
Mitch
completely different from Xelas which was too much competent and thats why they had to go. Bob just couldnt stand someone better then them around. Get real, you are not in position (you are not competent) to comment anyones alliance after being one of leading roles in Xelas...
If mitch is a little biased so are you zola,and what alliances were you in charge to call him uninformed?What alliances did you form,build and destroyed in the present ?
If anything if bob goes to PB the servers are going to suffer badlly and noone will get a good figth.
Hi. I was in charge of FA on peak of its power, when it was strongest alliance. not solo in charge ofc but member of HQ. I (we) literally killed CFS. they are only alliance they was really killed in less then a month or so, all others slowly died affected by many factors and in longer time, while CFS was raped. Also had plenty of wars with others before i quit alliance stuff. Even now when im long time "officially" gone from eve politics im pretty sure i have more influence on it then Xelas had ever. warning epeening incoming - im known by many people in this game, be it pirates, alliance guys, industrialists etc, i have friends in plenty alliances and alts in even more. therefore young padawan, inform yourself before going to blindly defend someone ;).
/Signed!
Hi Don, Keep up the good fight 
Our Knights/GhostFleet are available for small honorable contracts.
Phasmatis Velox Equitatus
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Marko Zhang
Destructive Flatulence
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Posted - 2007.12.21 02:31:00 -
[129]
metal guy when molle finds out your posting in caod instead of fighting you're going to get a spanking. 
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.21 02:34:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Marko Zhang metal guy when molle finds out your posting in caod instead of fighting you're going to get a spanking. 
It would help if you could log in.
The truth will set you free
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FubarSF
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.21 03:41:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Metal Dude The game mechanics are at fault. CCP needs to change its philosophy of how sovereignty is held, that's the only way.
I had an idea of special sovereignty POSes with generators powering them in neighboring systems, not the core system. In order to destroy a sovereignty POS, all generators would need to be held to 10%-20% armor, spreading out a fight to say, sovereignty 4 = 4 generators in 4 neighboring systems. This way the fights are spread out over multiple systems and there's no POS spamming going on all the time, because regular POSes do not hold sovereignty, only Special POSes do and only 1 can be placed in system at a time.
Something like that would change the game mechanics and possibly make this game more enjoyable, but at the very least it might make it playable. Until then, well, enjoy paying your subscription while CCP laughs at all of us all the way to the bank.
that's a good idea. I'm sure haveing like 1000+ in gang didn't help though 
well I hope that you get to actually "play" in that lagfest (with atleast one of your toons :))
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Eldwinn
Ero Guro VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.21 04:52:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Metal Dude The game mechanics are at fault. CCP needs to change its philosophy of how sovereignty is held, that's the only way.
I had an idea of special sovereignty POSes with generators powering them in neighboring systems, not the core system. In order to destroy a sovereignty POS, all generators would need to be held to 10%-20% armor, spreading out a fight to say, sovereignty 4 = 4 generators in 4 neighboring systems. This way the fights are spread out over multiple systems and there's no POS spamming going on all the time, because regular POSes do not hold sovereignty, only Special POSes do and only 1 can be placed in system at a time.
Something like that would change the game mechanics and possibly make this game more enjoyable, but at the very least it might make it playable. Until then, well, enjoy paying your subscription while CCP laughs at all of us all the way to the bank.
'We see nothing in our logs....bla,bla,bla' You would think that after more then five years in business, CCP would create some kind of log program that would actually show them what the problems are. Quite pathetic, actually, that they can be in programming business and don't even recognize or have tools to analyze what are the problems within their own game. Sure does not make me think that they will solve anything any time soon.
I kind of like this idea, have you posted it in the suggestions forums?
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.21 05:00:00 -
[133]
no, I did not, but I do not get paid by CCP to be coming up with ideas for game designs for them. They have ætrainedÆ people that get paid to come up with these ideas, not me. Besides, that would not help kill BoB, right CCP? How about another nurf? We can still put up a fleet. 
The truth will set you free
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Sgt Napalm
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.21 07:30:00 -
[134]
I was in PR-. We had cake and got a free t-shirt.
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Shiwan Khan
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.21 08:22:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Larry Wong sorry i'm going to see that will smith movie about vampires and it's probably based very very loosely on a twilight zone episode but i'm gonna see it anyway   
It isnt about vampires per se. They are people who were infected with a virus what was originally designed to cure cancer, it made those infected very sensitive to light (like vampires) but is a very good movie. ____________________________________________
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:02:00 -
[136]
imagine bob attacks full force, and nothing happens
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Darklin Eldaris
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.12.21 14:16:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Darklin Eldaris on 21/12/2007 14:18:33
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Criticize us all you want BoB, at least we've never had an alliance mail telling us to nano our ships "out the wazzoo".
No, you guys had to settle for the: "Bring as many ships as you can, bring ibis's if you have to. Whatever it takes to lag out the system," alliance mail.
Pwned yourself in the face here.
I'll break it down for you.
List of alliances who do not have a high horse on which to sit and talk **** from:
#1 Goonswarm
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.21 14:39:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Edited by: Darklin Eldaris on 21/12/2007 14:18:33
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Criticize us all you want BoB, at least we've never had an alliance mail telling us to nano our ships "out the wazzoo".
No, you guys had to settle for the: "Bring as many ships as you can, bring ibis's if you have to. Whatever it takes to lag out the system," alliance mail.
Pwned yourself in the face here.
I'll break it down for you.
List of alliances who do not have a high horse on which to sit and talk **** from:
#1 Goonswarm
how does it feel to lose so many regions to goonswarm?
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Zell
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.21 14:41:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Local Her0
Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Edited by: Darklin Eldaris on 21/12/2007 14:18:33
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Criticize us all you want BoB, at least we've never had an alliance mail telling us to nano our ships "out the wazzoo".
No, you guys had to settle for the: "Bring as many ships as you can, bring ibis's if you have to. Whatever it takes to lag out the system," alliance mail.
Pwned yourself in the face here.
I'll break it down for you.
List of alliances who do not have a high horse on which to sit and talk **** from:
#1 Goonswarm
how does it feel to lose so many regions to goonswarm?
How does goonswarm feel to be the pet monkey boys of RA?
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.12.21 15:41:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Zell
Originally by: Local Her0
Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Edited by: Darklin Eldaris on 21/12/2007 14:18:33
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Criticize us all you want BoB, at least we've never had an alliance mail telling us to nano our ships "out the wazzoo".
No, you guys had to settle for the: "Bring as many ships as you can, bring ibis's if you have to. Whatever it takes to lag out the system," alliance mail.
Pwned yourself in the face here.
I'll break it down for you.
List of alliances who do not have a high horse on which to sit and talk **** from:
#1 Goonswarm
how does it feel to lose so many regions to goonswarm?
How does goonswarm feel to be the pet monkey boys of RA?
good enough to post with mains.
Originally by: Ricdic Ezoran is a dirty troll. Ezoran has been repoted to mods for trolling on this and many other threads As trolling continues Ezoran will continue to be reported If Ezoran persists then
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.21 15:49:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Edited by: Darklin Eldaris on 21/12/2007 14:18:33
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Criticize us all you want BoB, at least we've never had an alliance mail telling us to nano our ships "out the wazzoo".
No, you guys had to settle for the: "Bring as many ships as you can, bring ibis's if you have to. Whatever it takes to lag out the system," alliance mail.
Pwned yourself in the face here.
I'll break it down for you.
List of alliances who do not have a high horse on which to sit and talk **** from:
#1 Goonswarm
I'm intrigued, and would love to see your evidence backing this up. Now, I have a habit of avoiding reading alliance mails (especially those sent by Deadtear), but I have yet to have ever been given an order anything like the one you mentioned.
Still, I'm sure you have a screenshot or widely accepted log of this to back up your claim, right?
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Fallen Buckshot
Amarr North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.21 15:59:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Malcore Trisus
Originally by: Kyoi The first rule of Pandemic Legion is you must Polycarb every ship
The second rule of Pandemic Legion is you must fit an MWD on every ship
The third rule of Pandemic Legion is every ship must have Overdrive Injector II's
The fourth rule of Pandemic Legion is to pretend you are not a nanofag
Dont forget Istabs.
I hate to give away our sekret ... but fill yer cargohold with as many exotic dancers you can hold .. thats where the speed comes from
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.22 00:13:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Zell
How does goonswarm feel to be the pet monkey boys of RA?
how does it feel to lose so many allies to pet monkey boys?
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.22 00:28:00 -
[144]
Someone should make a thread about reinforced nodes. I've never heard any official explanation about it and still believe it's a myth. CCP doesn't need to make any system in game handle that kind of load at any given time, but being able to selectively increase horsepower in a specific area with due warning (1 downtime in advance is no prob) from players would be fantastic.
No really big battles happen unannounced anyway.
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.22 02:17:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Cvuos Someone should make a thread about reinforced nodes. I've never heard any official explanation about it and still believe it's a myth. CCP doesn't need to make any system in game handle that kind of load at any given time, but being able to selectively increase horsepower in a specific area with due warning (1 downtime in advance is no prob) from players would be fantastic.
No really big battles happen unannounced anyway.
Nothing, absolutely nothing will make this game playable when the design favors the blob. People will just keeping bringing more and more, unless the designers discourage blobbing thru redesigning the game mechanics. Enyone thinking that better technology or reinforcing nodes or any other miracle will change that is just fooling themselves. Then again, we are talking about CCP here. They donÆt see any problems in their logs. It must be all of our PCs. 
The truth will set you free
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shaerc
Tree of Liberty
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Posted - 2007.12.22 02:45:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Metal Dude
Nothing, absolutely nothing will make this game playable when the design favors the blob. People will just keeping bringing more and more people, unless the designers discourage blobbing thru redesigning the game mechanics. Anyone thinking that better technology or reinforcing nodes or any other miracle to speed will change that is just fooling themselves. Then again, we are talking about CCP here. They donÆt see any problems in their logs. It must be all of our PCs. 
Agreed.
One thing which has increased the blob factor a lot is Warp to 0.
It's now vastly both easier and quicker to move fleets around. It's extremely easy to move over several regions, with many alliances congregating to attack a target.
Obviously warp to 0 has upsides too, but its an example of how game mechanics can change alliances.
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True Sebiestor
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.12.22 03:02:00 -
[147]
Originally by: shaerc
Originally by: Metal Dude
Nothing, absolutely nothing will make this game playable when the design favors the blob. People will just keeping bringing more and more people, unless the designers discourage blobbing thru redesigning the game mechanics. Anyone thinking that better technology or reinforcing nodes or any other miracle to speed will change that is just fooling themselves. Then again, we are talking about CCP here. They donÆt see any problems in their logs. It must be all of our PCs. 
Agreed.
One thing which has increased the blob factor a lot is Warp to 0.
It's now vastly both easier and quicker to move fleets around. It's extremely easy to move over several regions, with many alliances congregating to attack a target.
Obviously warp to 0 has upsides too, but its an example of how game mechanics can change alliances.
Are you prefer swarm of bookmarks ?? 
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.22 03:04:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 22/12/2007 02:49:51
Originally by: Cvuos Someone should make a thread about reinforced nodes. I've never heard any official explanation about it and still believe it's a myth. CCP doesn't need to make any system in game handle that kind of load at any given time, but being able to selectively increase horsepower in a specific area with due warning (1 downtime in advance is no prob) from players would be fantastic.
No really big battles happen unannounced anyway.
Nothing, absolutely nothing will make this game playable when the design favors the blob. People will just keep bringing more and more people, unless the designers discourage blobbing thru redesigning the game mechanics. Anyone thinking that better technology or reinforcing nodes or any other miracle to speed will change that is just fooling themselves. Then again, we are talking about CCP here. They donÆt see any problems in their logs. It must be all of our PCs. 
How about a 1v1 duel for delve?
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.22 03:07:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Moon Kitten
Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 22/12/2007 02:49:51
Originally by: Cvuos Someone should make a thread about reinforced nodes. I've never heard any official explanation about it and still believe it's a myth. CCP doesn't need to make any system in game handle that kind of load at any given time, but being able to selectively increase horsepower in a specific area with due warning (1 downtime in advance is no prob) from players would be fantastic.
No really big battles happen unannounced anyway.
Nothing, absolutely nothing will make this game playable when the design favors the blob. People will just keep bringing more and more people, unless the designers discourage blobbing thru redesigning the game mechanics. Anyone thinking that better technology or reinforcing nodes or any other miracle to speed will change that is just fooling themselves. Then again, we are talking about CCP here. They donÆt see any problems in their logs. It must be all of our PCs. 
How about a 1v1 duel for delve?
Naa, you'll have to earn it. 
The truth will set you free
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shaerc
Tree of Liberty
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Posted - 2007.12.22 03:33:00 -
[150]
Originally by: True Sebiestor
Originally by: shaerc
Originally by: Metal Dude
Nothing, absolutely nothing will make this game playable when the design favors the blob. People will just keeping bringing more and more people, unless the designers discourage blobbing thru redesigning the game mechanics. Anyone thinking that better technology or reinforcing nodes or any other miracle to speed will change that is just fooling themselves. Then again, we are talking about CCP here. They donÆt see any problems in their logs. It must be all of our PCs. 
Agreed.
One thing which has increased the blob factor a lot is Warp to 0.
It's now vastly both easier and quicker to move fleets around. It's extremely easy to move over several regions, with many alliances congregating to attack a target.
Obviously warp to 0 has upsides too, but its an example of how game mechanics can change alliances.
Are you prefer swarm of bookmarks ?? 
No I dont prefer that. It was just an observation.
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