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Greyhound Mist
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:04:00 -
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Looks like our corp is being ransomed. We will not pay it. We are looking for support from other CEO's. We have requested that they retract the war. If they do not retract we are requesting declarations of war on them from other corps.
Here is the letter we have recived.
Greetings my friend. I have declared war on your corporation. I have been paid to do this by a rival corporation. I will be sporadically attacking your industrial ships until the asked ransom has been paid. The asked ransom is 200 million isk, which does not include my fee of 50 million, please forward this amount to me before the end of the week, or action will be taken. Yours, Warn.
He is their CEO. He is a one man show right now with 5 more coming online as soon as war is in effect. People who know us know we are a honorable corp. We are looking for help.
Their Corporation is: Intex Systems
and Warn is their founder.
Thank you in advance.
Grey
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:08:00 -
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Warn was helping me and a few gang mates destroy some CA ships less than a week ago, he said he wanted to kill pirates.
Now he's the pirate eh.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:10:00 -
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Sounds more like an attempt at a scam to me.
Ignore him.
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Mikhayl Ruzhyo
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:15:00 -
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I think that's all the more reason to go knock on the guy's doorstep!
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:17:00 -
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Dont be in a corp if you arent willing to fight since as so many say, corp wars is the basis of EVE.
Fight back, use agents and locate them, camp them in stations until he retracts the war.
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Warn was helping me and a few gang mates destroy some CA ships less than a week ago, he said he wanted to kill pirates.
Now he's the pirate eh.
So corp wars is piracy
All a matter of opinion, everyone that shoots you is a pirate in your eyes, they may have reasons you know not of 
Note I said "you" as a general word, not pointed towards the person I quoted.
Spawn of the Devil
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Pogy Bait
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:19:00 -
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Meat is Murder!
PVP is Piracy!
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Raeff
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:23:00 -
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So corp wars is piracy
All a matter of opinion, everyone that shoots you is a pirate in your eyes, they may have reasons you know not of
Note I said "you" as a general word, not pointed towards the person I quoted.
think you missed the point .. the "ransoming" is the "piracy"
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:26:00 -
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ransom using a corp war can be double edged sword
make him learn it easily cuts both ways
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Do not let the world change you.
Change the world
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:29:00 -
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Quote:
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So corp wars is piracy
All a matter of opinion, everyone that shoots you is a pirate in your eyes, they may have reasons you know not of
Note I said "you" as a general word, not pointed towards the person I quoted.
think you missed the point .. the "ransoming" is the "piracy"
Nah, the surrender option is a trade window, if nothing is demanded then there is no reason to close the war.
Fighting a corp war is just a means to an end imo, in my old corp Tycho heavy industries we had price wars in Domain region with Dark Empire but we were both in Fountain alliance so we couldnt do anything.
Few of us trained up alts for caracals and blackbirds and hit their main system, we demanded nothing and told them we were hired to attack them, they eventually pulled out of Domain region since they could not mine, we got what we wanted.
There was a corp mining in the systems where we opirated so we declared war on them, they pulled out since they could not mine, we won.
It¦s all means to an end, perhaps Old Farts should move their base of opiration and the war will be retracted.
Spawn of the Devil
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:31:00 -
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spank them.....
when they retract the war, declare your own, and ask 3x what they asked for for their audacity.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Demonus
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:44:00 -
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I have been paid to do this by a rival corporation.
I would have no problems fighting for fun but hiring others to fight is cowardly.
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Sparkle
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:46:00 -
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Tell him that if he sends you 100 million isk you might delete the mail and forget it happened.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.15 22:57:00 -
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spank them.....
when they retract the war, declare your own, and ask 3x what they asked for for their audacity.
You and I so went to the same school of diplomacy ProphetGuru ;)
And to the thread starter, fear not, most war declarations are extremely toothless. Jericho Fraction has been at war with the combined might of Mercenary Frigates and Foresaken Empire(CA) for the past couple of weeks and we are resolutely uncrushed. (And this from the corporation that everyone likes to call pvp noobs and useless traders). If we can stand tall and face down regional alliance scale bullying of this kind then you needn't fear a penny ante tosspiece scamming it on down. Simply add a combat pilot function to your corporate operations, fund a pvp hanger and concentrate on fighting in cheap ships that can counterattack and harass you foe. Spend a bit of time in counterintelligence and agent spying and begin an PR campaign.
Resistance is a noble endeavour. Never give up. Never surrender. A cause that fights to the last will rise again, whereas a cause that surrenders is gone forever.
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |
dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.15 23:00:00 -
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spank them.....
Well, OF left the stain alliance some time ago because they wanted to get away from PvP and be an industrial corp... That's the point
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.15 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 15/03/2004 23:07:35
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spank them.....
Well, OF left the stain alliance some time ago because they wanted to get away from PvP and be an industrial corp... That's the point
The problem is Dalman that the Eve star cluster is undergoing a serious increase in organised tyranny and barbarism funded by the bottomless coffers of regional tyrannies. There is no such thing as a free lunch any more. All industrial corps must realise that a proportion of their profits must go to defence spending. If they have no personal interest in combat pvp then they would be well advised to hire mercenaries and economically aid combatative friends to do the fighting for them. I do not believe there is any future for a corporation that cannot make this adjustment.
A huge struggle is on the horizon. Not everyone needs to be a fighter, but everyone who would know freedom must be prepared to make a few molotov*****tails for the guerilla forces of revolution.
JF Public Forum |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.15 23:22:00 -
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Clarity of Purpose are for hire.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.03.15 23:27:00 -
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SNIGG is also for hire. He's asking 250 million? We'll destroy his corp for less than that. Contact me for more details.
Shamis
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Greyhound Tech
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Posted - 2004.03.16 00:20:00 -
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We are not afraid, we KNOW how to fight. We just want to avoid it. That is why we are looking for support from our fellow Eve Corps. If we must fight we will. We are just looking for help to "bring thoses SOB's down." Thank you again.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.03.16 00:23:00 -
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OF is an honorable corp from everything I've seen. Message me up in-game and I'll see what I can do to help you out. It gets old with these one man shows demanding ransoms for dropping the wars. In our experience the only thing they have done is attacking the helpless ships and demand more money. If you pay them you are a perpetual target.
Offer some of your PvP oriented friends a free ride to kill someone. Let them into your corp for the duration of the war and let them have a good time with him. When the war is over they can head back to their previous corps.
In RE: to Omni on the "corp war is a crime" thought. It is NOT a crime, it's perfectly within the bounds of the game and what it is intended to be. But there is a new breed of ore thief out there and it's the "corp war *****." Basically these guys pick out someone they KNOW is not into PvP (like N.A.C working with new players and teaching them the ropes and OF working with industrial ventures) and attempt to extort money from them because they know they can't immediately do anything about it. Of course, you wouldn't know this because they'd have to be ape .... to declare war on you guys.
Again... Feel free to contact me Grey, I'll do whatever I can.
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Celticjim
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Posted - 2004.03.16 00:57:00 -
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SBD is going to help in whatever manner possible. There was a reason I left the Old Farts. Not due to the guys in there, they by far are still my best ingame friends, but rather due to the fact I wanted to continue with the pvp action. Almost half my skillpoints are gunnery/missile oriented. Easier for one person to go, than sacrifice the entire group, and potentially lead to their downfall.
If they keep it up, will declare war on them and shoot the buggers. 
Cheers
CJ
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.03.16 01:00:00 -
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spank them.....
when they retract the war, declare your own, and ask 3x what they asked for for their audacity.
You sure your not a pirate prophet?
Sass
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.03.16 01:09:00 -
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Is there any relation between Old Farts and Grumpy Old Farts? Flatulence and age aside.
Convert Stations
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Acix
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Posted - 2004.03.16 01:22:00 -
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There are merc corps out there for a reason. If you don't want to get your hands dirty leave it to corps like mine to do it for you.
You cannot expect people to risk a ship for you unless they somehow gain something in return.
Contact Shamis CEO of SNIGG if you would like the problem taken care of. We are very efficient at our job and our price is fair.
SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts.
For more info click below
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=68313 |
Celticjim
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Posted - 2004.03.16 01:33:00 -
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Danton..nope..just the old age and flatulence
Cheers
CJ
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Madog
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Posted - 2004.03.16 01:53:00 -
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Quote:
Looks like our corp is being ransomed. We will not pay it. We are looking for support from other CEO's. We have requested that they retract the war. If they do not retract we are requesting declarations of war on them from other corps.
Here is the letter we have recived.
Greetings my friend. I have declared war on your corporation. I have been paid to do this by a rival corporation. I will be sporadically attacking your industrial ships until the asked ransom has been paid. The asked ransom is 200 million isk, which does not include my fee of 50 million, please forward this amount to me before the end of the week, or action will be taken. Yours, Warn.
He is their CEO. He is a one man show right now with 5 more coming online as soon as war is in effect. People who know us know we are a honorable corp. We are looking for help.
Their Corporation is: Intex Systems
and Warn is their founder.
Thank you in advance.
Grey
Same scam that Joshua Calvert tried to pull...IGNORE THEM
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.03.16 04:33:00 -
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Quote:
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spank them.....
when they retract the war, declare your own, and ask 3x what they asked for for their audacity.
You sure your not a pirate prophet?
lies all lies, I'm an innocent miner.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Con'Mal
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Posted - 2004.03.16 07:33:00 -
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Joshua's demands were a only our attempt to insinuate some humor in the game, which is rather devoid of it atm.
Clarity is only interested in having some fun.
"The race is not [always] to the swift, nor the battle to the strong." |
JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.03.16 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 16/03/2004 08:24:50
Jade wrote
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spank them.....
begin an PR campaign.
a little out of context, but what the heck
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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MoLeH
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Posted - 2004.03.16 11:07:00 -
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Old Farts, contact me ingame and depending on your location i can help.
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Do you see people in real life whining that their enjoyment was ruined by a shark when they went swimming in dangerous waters? - Viceroy |
Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2004.03.16 11:14:00 -
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Moleh, wasn¦t ur corp attacking our miners some days ago? 
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.03.16 11:19:00 -
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being a merc corp is actully very good business!!!
"We brake for nobody"
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.03.16 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: XeQtR on 16/03/2004 13:02:09
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Warn was helping me and a few gang mates destroy some CA ships less than a week ago, he said he wanted to kill pirates.
Now he's the pirate eh.
Are you people actually STILL trying to divide eve players in to "pirates" and "none pirates"??
Come on. think. Celestial apoc in particular really need to get rid of the "high morality" attitude. You've cooperated with both Zombie and m0o. Nothing wrong with that. But stop claiming to be this big "pirate-killing corp" You're not one inch "better" than us, m0o, Zombie or anyone else in this conflict. You just want to pvp. at least have the common decency to admit it.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.03.16 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 16/03/2004 13:17:01
I can say that Shamis and Snigg will most definatly get the job done.
So if I where you I would go ahead and take all the above advice. and fight with all you've got. You have to be prepared no matter what in this game to fight...that is what its all about! some one is always going to look for a reason to gank you. if you don't do something to protect whats your then be prepared to pay the isk.....and then prepare to pay it again when they need more.
If you have no muscle buy some. untill you can get your own fighter wing.
To be honest I never had a problem with O.F. SO I have no problems recommending you do the following. Get an alt train it up for Corp Man. then Set up a mirror corp as your fighting wing. Hire PvPers and use them to protect your Production Corp.
BUT untill you can get it done if you chose too. Shamis WILL get the job done.
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |
Greyhound Tech
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Posted - 2004.03.16 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Greyhound Tech on 16/03/2004 16:40:22
Thank you all for your advice. We will deal with our problem. 24 Hours and you are not earning your pay yet Warn. You seem like a bad investment to who ever hired you. Putting the flyswatters on the Indies. Still mining after all these years...... GT Out
BTW Most of our indy pilots have Gunnery 5.  We will be waiting Warn.
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.03.16 16:40:00 -
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Hire people to work for old farts and give the people you hire half of what they ransomed for you, i gurantee somone will come 
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.16 16:47:00 -
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Is it really worth a corps time?, and how rewarding would it be?.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.03.16 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: XeQtR on 16/03/2004 13:02:09
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Warn was helping me and a few gang mates destroy some CA ships less than a week ago, he said he wanted to kill pirates.
Now he's the pirate eh.
Are you people actually STILL trying to divide eve players in to "pirates" and "none pirates"??
Come on. think. Celestial apoc in particular really need to get rid of the "high morality" attitude. You've cooperated with both Zombie and m0o. Nothing wrong with that. But stop claiming to be this big "pirate-killing corp" You're not one inch "better" than us, m0o, Zombie or anyone else in this conflict. You just want to pvp. at least have the common decency to admit it.
How about you go away check your facts then come back with something that isnt garbage ?. CELEST has not co-operated with MOO or Zombie. 
CELEST stands to rid Eve of those that want to impose there evil will upon the innocent of Eve.
As for your PVP comment yep and ? We do and we have chosen our side. At no time have we stated we are better than anybody else.
Tally ho
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2004.03.16 17:10:00 -
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Ive got an agent that can locate them across several regions. Get me a list of all the names of his people, and I will find them. Once they have been camped and podded a few times these little upstart merc corps usually go away. My old corp had 2 such wars declared on us at once plus a war from a real corp (merc frigates). It was almost comical how fast the little 5 man corps folded once they lost their ships.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.03.16 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 16/03/2004 17:29:41
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Are you people actually STILL trying to divide eve players in to "pirates" and "none pirates"??
Come on. think. Celestial apoc in particular really need to get rid of the "high morality" attitude. You've cooperated with both Zombie and m0o. Nothing wrong with that. But stop claiming to be this big "pirate-killing corp" You're not one inch "better" than us, m0o, Zombie or anyone else in this conflict. You just want to pvp. at least have the common decency to admit it.
You're right that we just want to PvP, however the rest is pretty much all wrong.
These are the facts.
* If we see m0o/Zombie, we attack them.
* We did not "cooperate" with m0o/Zombie; however, a member of our corp has a friend (or more) in Zombie inc, they warned us that you (CA) used log on traps (which we don't know if you did, since we didn't go there). Now, don't take this as an accusation, that what we were told and we have no idea if it was true or not.
* m0o and CELES are both attacking CA, AND each other.
Anything else is a lie. We're still the honest corp we started out as.
Please accept the facts and don't turn this thread about to be about pirates/non-pirates.
Also please note that I'm as usual not an official spokesman, but I'm too annoyed to not answer.
Edit: Maybe I shouldn't put it that way, that we *just* want to PvP. The feeling to kill someone who killed loads of innocent people, get 'thank you' mails etc is great.
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Alexandra Belana
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Posted - 2004.03.16 17:35:00 -
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Mate, tell them to take a flying leap...Dont pay them s4ite and spank them until their little bunz burn red like a satisfied wench, and they apologize for their very existence.
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Warn
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Posted - 2004.03.16 19:46:00 -
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Greetings all. This seems to have caused a fuss. I have nothing against the old farts personally, but I am carrying out a job i have been paid to do. I will not give up once my ship has been destroyed a few times - which is inevitable, i have even had my rifter destroyed today. All my expenses are paid, so i will not incur costs for these losses. And frankly, its good fun. And to Jarjar, Thanks for the opportunity to attack CA with you - I am not a "pirate" - ie the war declaration, but i have been offered substantial isk to do this job. Therefore I will do it.
It's all part of the game.
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Celticjim
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Posted - 2004.03.16 20:02:00 -
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Good to hear....all part of the game to shoot back at you too. See you in space
*Celticjim lokes lovingly at his newly acquired cruise missile stock.
Cheers
CJ
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2004.03.16 20:19:00 -
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Jericho Fraction has been at war with the combined might of Mercenary Frigates and Foresaken Empire(CA) for the past couple of weeks and we are resolutely uncrushed.
Yeah...we are trying to figure out how to beat a dead horse, the problem is, it doesn't care how much you beat it!
EVE-I.com~THE Info source |
Greyhound Mist
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Posted - 2004.03.16 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: Greyhound Mist on 16/03/2004 22:58:35
Glad to hear that Warn. Your employer's bill will be big. Bye Sweety
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Greyhound
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Posted - 2004.03.17 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Greyhound on 17/03/2004 01:42:38
Wait, Your RIFTER!!! HAHAHAHAAHHA Warn is a harmless noob frig pilot! OF will crush you whenever you show your face. Personally, Seeing that you have only been playing EVE for a month It would apear that your full of crap. No corp in their right mind would pay 50 mil to hire a noob frig pilot to fight for them.
Do not be fooled tho, OF is a battlehardened corp with many friends. If you are in fact financially supported by another corp we will find out who and deliver swift justice. A hint of advice Warn, Surrender now and end this plea for attention. Move on to a more worthwile endeavor and save yourself the embarrassment of constantly being podded. Other then that the OF battlefleet is ready to rise to any challenge. Besides, I've been looking to expand my Corpse collection.
-Greyhound
No relation to Greyhound Mist or Tech
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Warn
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Posted - 2004.03.17 11:01:00 -
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Oh dear. Yes, I'm a frigate pilot. The best ships to kill other frigates and industrials in. Didn't you know that??
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Rob Mattacks
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Posted - 2004.03.17 11:36:00 -
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Chances are she is not a new player but an alt and imo the corp who put her up to this are yellow for not showing face...
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Greyhound Mist
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Posted - 2004.03.17 16:39:00 -
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I think we are done talking. Keep your clones up Warn. We are mining and watching.
-Greyhound Mist
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Celticjim
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Posted - 2004.03.17 17:48:00 -
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Too bad the only person who liked to fly frigs in that corp was me and Kastovic, and we are no longer with OF. Have fun...btw...is our war on now then too
Cheers
CJ
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AzzKikr
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Posted - 2004.03.17 21:08:00 -
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This Warn character sounds like a loser to me...I hope his employer kicks him in the teeth (Seeing that he nearly got Podded...hehehehe)...Long Live the Old Farts
Also, Like I know some of these Old Timers...They will kick Warn's Ass Every time...He will end up costing his current employers more than it will cost us to kill him every time...
Also, I will pay a 1 million isk bounty for his (Warn)corpse...Let's make it interesting...maybe I'll pay you 1 million for Every corpse you bring me...Bounty Hunters Unite...
AzzKikr
Regards,
AzzKikr
Old Farts Recruitment Officer
Visit us at http://oldfarts.guildportal.com |
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