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Faust vonkraken Odd Socks and Flip Flops	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:43:00 - [31] Originally by: Tarminic Bleach is alright to pass the time, but Bleach always reminds me of Dragonball Z with swords. lol thats why its so awesome! and honestly the 'powering-up' is naruto is waaaaaay longer then in bleach, take for instance todays double episode, a mild splattering of grrr with a dash of action, dattebayo. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:45:00 - [32] Originally by: Faust vonkraken Originally by: Tarminic Bleach is alright to pass the time, but Bleach always reminds me of Dragonball Z with swords. lol thats why its so awesome! and honestly the 'powering-up' is naruto is waaaaaay longer then in bleach, take for instance todays double episode, a mild splattering of grrr with a dash of action, dattebayo. They certainly do like their buildup/cliffhangers/flashbacks, don't they? But the action that was present was pretty damn awesome, no? ---------------- Tarminic - 30 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.76.2
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:46:00 - [33] Originally by: Tarminic So I'm assuming you've seen both in Japanese? English, French, and Japanese and it's bad in any of them. Things like Naruto are a symbol of the downward spiral that's effecting Anime imo. Occasionally they release a good anime, like 12 Kingdoms, RahXephon, Monster, etc. But for the most part it's these DBZ-style derivatives that are getting popular acclaim and it's ruining the market imo. Japan's going all Hollywood on us, by cranking out this uninspired dribble. I mean I watched DBZ, was fun to watch, but I'd hardly call it good, but it was entertaining. I understand, not everything needs to be a work of art. But Things like FMA, and Naruto are just utterly bad, and the acclaim they garner is worse. I even liked Getbackers, so it's not like I'm just some stuckup art snob. But Getbackers had a similar vein of "Tacky Japanese Humor" but imo it was done effectively and captured the energy and excitement that DBZ had to it. It's a pity, because there are elements of Naruto that aren't bad. The fight scenes are well choreographed, and parts of the story are compelling, but from an execution standpoint the anime is horrible. Flashbacks, of Flashbacks, I think one time they had a Flashback within a Flashback. Time spent uselessly literally accomplishing nothing, not to mention tons of filler episodes. I mean I like watching Naruto FMVs since some of the action sequences are done quite nicely if you cut out the stupid dialog in them, and shots of people trying to explain what the others are doing. Like Rock vs. Gaara, Naruto vs. Sasuke. etc. Gaara + Seizure of Power After something like that you see how actually watching Naruto is such a let down. ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:48:00 - [34] If you want the real meaning of cliffhangers, Sunrise are the lords of this. I know I am sounding like a broken record now, but the cliffhangers in Geass are infamous on the net, point in context the phrase "oh Geass no!" in blogs when talking about a cliffhanger ~Nyron Originally by: SoftRevolution Not liking Haruhi is like not liking puppies or rainbows or whisky.
Faust vonkraken Odd Socks and Flip Flops	Posted - 2007.12.21 19:52:00 - [35] yeah it was pretty cool when he *****slapped orochimaru. next ep isnt gonna be till new year tho which makes me a sad panda :< (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Gyfrex Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.21 20:47:00 - [36] I like the naruto manga, got bored of the anime around episode 70ish? Then enjoyed the last two or three eps before the filler (the final fight bits) and havn't bothered with shippuden since I read the manga so recently. Also, I agree with the people who say that popular shounen series (bleach, naruto etc.) are a downward spiral for anime. If they'd make more stuff like GITS and Bebop, i.e. slightly more serious series, I would become moderately less grumpy. anyway in conclusion....BELIEVE IT! ---
Faust vonkraken Odd Socks and Flip Flops	Posted - 2007.12.21 20:53:00 - [37] Originally by: Gyfrex anyway in conclusion....BELIEVE IT! you mean dattebayo! I kinda agree tho, give more stuff like Ergo proxy and Mononoke! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Sqalevon The Ragnarg Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.12.21 21:29:00 - [38] Originally by: Tarminic They certainly do like their buildup/cliffhangers/flashbacks, don't they? But the action that was present was pretty damn awesome, no? The action lacked more action to be honest. And I especially mean action of the quality like the 10 vs 100 puppet fight. ( Rewatch it, you'll notice a huge difference in animation ) Also, my opinion. I'd prefer it if they'd keep up the pace as in the manga,like they did in the episodes before the fillers. And if they fear catching up with the manga so much, they might as well do a proper story arc like bleach had with those Bounto.
M00dy Killed In Action The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.12.21 22:22:00 - [39] Naruto was the first anime I ever watched. I thought it was good until I got to episode 100 and then I realized it was fail. Then I watched Ninja Scroll and found out what real anime was. And I like it. RATatatatatat - Moody Killed In Action The Crimson Federation
me bored	Posted - 2007.12.21 22:48:00 - [40] Originally by: Rialtor I want to make your babies.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.12.21 22:55:00 - [41] they are hardcore drawing out shiitputtin so they wont need to do filler later, its all ready included aka its like prenerfing stuff its not cool :(
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.22 00:54:00 - [42] Originally by: Rialtor Originally by: Tarminic So I'm assuming you've seen both in Japanese? English, French, and Japanese and it's bad in any of them. Things like Naruto are a symbol of the downward spiral that's effecting Anime imo. Occasionally they release a good anime, like 12 Kingdoms, RahXephon, Monster, etc. But for the most part it's these DBZ-style derivatives that are getting popular acclaim and it's ruining the market imo. Japan's going all Hollywood on us, by cranking out this uninspired dribble. I mean I watched DBZ, was fun to watch, but I'd hardly call it good, but it was entertaining. I understand, not everything needs to be a work of art. But Things like FMA, and Naruto are just utterly bad, and the acclaim they garner is worse. I even liked Getbackers, so it's not like I'm just some stuckup art snob. But Getbackers had a similar vein of "Tacky Japanese Humor" but imo it was done effectively and captured the energy and excitement that DBZ had to it. It's a pity, because there are elements of Naruto that aren't bad. The fight scenes are well choreographed, and parts of the story are compelling, but from an execution standpoint the anime is horrible. Flashbacks, of Flashbacks, I think one time they had a Flashback within a Flashback. Time spent uselessly literally accomplishing nothing, not to mention tons of filler episodes. I mean I like watching Naruto FMVs since some of the action sequences are done quite nicely if you cut out the stupid dialog in them, and shots of people trying to explain what the others are doing. Like Rock vs. Gaara, Naruto vs. Sasuke. etc. Gaara + Seizure of Power After something like that you see how actually watching Naruto is such a let down. indeed. it also makes you wonder why they didn't finished 12 Kingdoms. like theres 3 more arcs in the saga still... --- planetary interaction idea!
Rawr Cristina Caldari Cult of Rawr	Posted - 2007.12.22 01:21:00 - [43] 3 + 9 I don't know, it might appeal to some but such DBZ-style anime seems like it's aimed at 12-year olds. -----
MalVortex	Posted - 2007.12.22 01:38:00 - [44] I've seen every episode up through Shippuden.... 32ish? The one where Garra is finally saved (I'll leave it at that for spoilers sake). I tend to watch in bursts, it can drive me crazy having a cliffhanger and a week to see it =D And yea, it is somewhat DBZish. But the charachters are all really well done, its got good production values (100+ fillers aside), and like a soap, theres a point where you get sucked in...
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.22 01:52:00 - [45] I watched StarBlazers as a very young tyke. I liked that, even if looking back upon the series it was very poor, and more poorly translated and translocated. However, since then, in my most humble, uncultured, unexperienced opinion, the only anime of note has been Samurai Champloo. Chanporu. Whatever. Wait. The Akira movie was good. Though it was mostly just eye-candy to the english speaker who was unfamiliar with the storyline. But hey, it was good eye-candy for the day. But Samurai Champloo. That was delicious to me because of the "historical fiction" aspect. I always came away from an episode feeling that, if I hadn't actually learned something true about historical Japanese culture, at least I had gotten a taste of some pop interpretation. I've tried Naruto. I've tried Inuyashas, which came with many many recommendations. Can't stomach. Does Crumplecorn's watering can girl offer anything like what I enjoyed about Samurai Champloo? Does anything? ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
me bored	Posted - 2007.12.22 02:44:00 - [46] Edited by: me bored on 22/12/2007 02:52:41 Originally by: Sister Impotentata I watched StarBlazers as a very young tyke. I liked that, even if looking back upon the series it was very poor, and more poorly translated and translocated. Battleship yamato (the show they murdered to make that) was awesome. Originally by: Sister Impotentata Does Crumplecorn's watering can girl offer anything like what I enjoyed about Samurai Champloo? Does anything? You could try cowboy bebop if you haven't seen it already. It's made by the same people and is extremely similar in style.
me bored	Posted - 2007.12.22 02:52:00 - [47] Edited by: me bored on 22/12/2007 02:51:48
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.22 03:06:00 - [48] Originally by: Sister Impotentata Does Crumplecorn's watering can girl offer anything like what I enjoyed about Samurai Champloo? Does anything? Rozen Maiden is, at least, original. Good story, good character development and nice action sequences with a mix of comedy and some well-pasted emo-ness (it needs it tbh). but, if you're into brainfarts, you can try Ergo Proxy, or Texhonlyze, or S.E. Lain, or, if going for lighter stuff, Haibane Renmei. more serious stuff? 12 Kingdoms, Banner/Crest of the stars are my faves. comedical options? any assortment of "harem"-type animes with good argument is a good option. these are very rare tho, specially the ones that don't fall in the "fanservice" hole (El Hazard OVA's, Tenchi Muyo OVA's and the oh my goddess series aswell). you can go to the bat****-insane stuff aswell like Excel Saga, or Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, or Haruhi, or any other nonsense anime you can find. --- planetary interaction idea!
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.22 03:30:00 - [49] Originally by: me bored Battleship yamato (the show they murdered to make that) was awesome. Is a non-murdered version of BY available? I like subtitles, and dislike dubs. Originally by: me bored You could try cowboy bebop if you haven't seen it already. It's made by the same people and is extremely similar in style. I know this is available to me. My sister has an extensive collection of not-quite-boy, not-quite-girl anime. I will tell her to bring it home for holiday. She owes me. This time last year I was making soothing emails to ebay, the IRS, Microsoft, Haliburton, Immigration, Homeland Security, and your mother because she foolishly tried to order some very unkosher Inuyasha collections from the home machine. Originally by: Grimpak Rozen Maiden is, at least, original. Good story, good character development and nice action sequences with a mix of comedy and some well-pasted emo-ness (it needs it tbh). I want comedy and emo-ness. In fact, I demand it. Being able to explore comedy demonstrates mastery of the subject. But I have to see mastery of the subject first. Originally by: Grimpak but, if you're into brainfarts, you can try Ergo Proxy, or Texhonlyze, or S.E. Lain, or, if going for lighter stuff, Haibane Renmei. I don't want lighter stuff. Lighter stuff is good when you have a good understanding of the culture. If you're just learning, the lighter stuff mostly flies over your head. "I think that was cute... but what just happened? Teeheehee!" Originally by: Grimpak more serious stuff? 12 Kingdoms, Banner/Crest of the stars are my faves. Looks like the serious business I'm after. Eggsurant! ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Anon Forumalt	Posted - 2007.12.22 05:56:00 - [50] Last episode made me sad...a full hour special of nothing but Naruto and Orochimaru staring each other down. 2nd episode this season I've actually had to fast forward through (the other one being "the return of the kazekage," which I take it was just an enormous parade.) I suppose taking a single frame of the manga and making it into an hour long special is bad, but I would argue that filler arcs with made up villaiges and princesses and such is worse.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.12.22 06:12:00 - [51] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/12/2007 06:13:03 Narutards are great... to laugh my head off at. IMO any anime that doesn't have a set beginning and end is nearly guaranteed to suck, and Naruto is no exception. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! (updated)
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.12.22 07:07:00 - [52] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/12/2007 06:13:03 Narutards are great... to laugh my head off at. IMO any anime that doesn't have a set beginning and end is nearly guaranteed to suck, and Naruto is no exception. I believe it.... Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
me bored	Posted - 2007.12.22 11:55:00 - [53] Originally by: Sister Impotentata Originally by: me bored Battleship yamato (the show they murdered to make that) was awesome. Is a non-murdered version of BY available? I like subtitles, and dislike dubs. I should think so but it might be hard to find on dvd since it's an old show. It's readily available on the net if you know where to look though. You can throw me an eve mail if you need pointing in the right direction.
Doctor Fruitloop	Posted - 2007.12.22 13:43:00 - [54] Originally by: Dark Shikari IMO any anime that doesn't have a set beginning and end is nearly guaranteed to suck, and Naruto is no exception. Now this anyone can agree on about no begining and end - coherent plots are a must for me Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny BELIEVE IT!!! If you utter that...phrase...again, I swear to god I'll hunt you down and pod you
Sqalevon The Ragnarg Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.12.22 13:49:00 - [55] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/12/2007 06:13:03 Narutards are great... to laugh my head off at. IMO any anime that doesn't have a set beginning and end is nearly guaranteed to suck, and Naruto is no exception. The manga isnt that bad, story progresses nicely and people are actually dying. It might not be the most intelligent stuff out there but it's nowhere near as bad as pokemon. I do feel that the Naruto story is actually going somewhere but the pace is laughable if you compare it to OVA's. Wich is a format you seem to like. The only thing I fear is if they get to that point where they finish the story arc, they start going DBZ. In conclusion, Naruto does have a set beginning and the story so far leads to believe that there will be an end. So that kinda kills the point you make.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2007.12.22 17:25:00 - [56] Jeez, if you guys are gonna flame me you could at least use some of the premade answers. ---------------- Tarminic - 30 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.76.2
Doctor Fruitloop	Posted - 2008.01.07 15:17:00 - [57] Originally by: Tarminic Jeez, if you guys are gonna flame me you could at least use some of the premade answers. NEVER!!Thread is a classic. Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny BELIEVE IT!!! If you utter that...phrase...again, I swear to god I'll hunt you down and pod you
JADE DRAG0NESS Dark Scorpions Fate Weavers	Posted - 2008.01.07 16:21:00 - [58] Surly nothing can be as bad as Dragonball Z. For those that dont know the plotline goes like this. Have some family scenes with the hero and family, Then evil bad alien/deamon/dragon etc shows up. OMG he is SO insanely POWERFULLL!!!!!!! [says the hero]. Hero gets his ass kicked then its reveiled the hero was faking it ZOMG!!!!. Bad guy gets killed/redeemed and everyone live happily ever after till next day when next badguy appears. What always got me was how every insany impossable powerfull evil guy is superseeded by one even more powerfull i mean come on there has to be a limit. "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Dark Shikari Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.07 16:22:00 - [59] Originally by: JADE DRAG0NESS Surly nothing can be as bad as Dragonball Z. For those that dont know the plotline goes like this. Have some family scenes with the hero and family, Then evil bad alien/deamon/dragon etc shows up. OMG he is SO insanely POWERFULLL!!!!!!! [says the hero]. Hero gets his ass kicked then its reveiled the hero was faking it ZOMG!!!!. Bad guy gets killed/redeemed and everyone live happily ever after till next day when next badguy appears. What always got me was how every insany impossable powerfull evil guy is superseeded by one even more powerfull i mean come on there has to be a limit. Dragonball Z isn't terrible for an anime--remember, the rule of anime is that there is always something much much worse. Its merely a mediocre concept with a bad implementation that was even further dumbed down for American viewers. Definitely worse stuff out there.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.01.07 16:35:00 - [60] Originally by: Dark Shikari Dragonball Z isn't terrible for an anime--remember, the rule of anime is that there is always something much much worse. Its merely a mediocre concept with a bad implementation that was even further dumbed down for American viewers. Definitely worse stuff out there. I dunno, I can't think of much anime worse than DBZ...pokemon perhaps? Digimon? DBZ is satisfying if you're 13 or are generally in the mood to watch people beat the crap out of each other, but doesn't do much else for me. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2

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