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Ofelia Jacobsson	Posted - 2007.12.22 06:21:00 - [1] I'm trying to read the forums to get an overview of how the war goes between BOB and the others. It's kind of hard since the majority of the postings are just mumbo jumbo. Please, could some one give us a SERIOUS neutral war report. Thank you.
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 06:24:00 - [2] bob are wounded tigers
Digicomm The Digital Communists	Posted - 2007.12.22 06:28:00 - [3] coughz Reow. sup?
L4NC3R Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 06:30:00 - [4] Seriously, bob is being backing into their home system. Us goons are going at them, Shrug what else can we say other then, we shall see what happens.
DrSeuss Gallente Phoenix Propulsion Labs Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.12.22 06:30:00 - [5] Originally by: Ofelia Jacobsson Please, could some one give us a SERIOUS neutral war report. Thank you. Pick a side and enter the area, Neutral is for general discussion . Everyone knows the only true wisdom is on T-Shirts
Kiledan Darkmoon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 06:30:00 - [6] You can't because the only people with enough intel have a vested interest in the war
Hannobaal Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 06:34:00 - [7] Originally by: Junkie Beverage bob are wounded tigers The tiger is... ..the wounded tiger is the tiger before it is wounded.
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.22 07:50:00 - [8] Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 22/12/2007 07:52:45 Essentially, BOB have lost everything they have gained over a year and a half of fighting up to this point, bar 2 stations in Catch Period basis - MC, evoke outbreak and KIA are claiming the region. BOB are striking at them with as many pets as it can muster. Fountain - Under attack by BRUCE and a few other northern powers. Several stations have already fallen Querious - Attacked by RAZOR with some support from AAA, IRON and IAC. ILY is under siege. Catch - BOB pulled out of 5-n2 and v2, systems which they claimed by POS spamming and were currently under attack, when MC turned. FAT has its cyno jammer down and the siege is beginning. IAC, AAA and Brotherhood of steel and the RSF are active in this campaign. Delve - Infested with Pandemic legion and the NPC stations are being used as a logistics base by coalition powers. BOB has tight control of PR-8 and NOL, but even those are being raided. Lots of mining towers in Delve have been destroyed and I believe replaced, and PL are stricking at deathstars. All other coalition powers are active in this theater, even through raids. I believe KOS is working hard here also. Thats about as neutral as you are going to get, sadly. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.22 07:54:00 - [9] there are still people who have not discovered the SHC forums, where crapposters and flamebaits get banned?
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.22 07:57:00 - [10] And when members of BOB start praising it you know its of the highest and unbiased quality. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Aeon Yakati Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.22 08:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 22/12/2007 07:52:45 Essentially, BOB have lost everything they have gained over a year and a half of fighting up to this point, bar 2 stations in Catch Period basis - MC, evoke outbreak and KIA are claiming the region. BOB are striking at them with as many pets as it can muster. Fountain - Under attack by BRUCE and a few other northern powers. Several stations have already fallen Querious - Attacked by RAZOR with some support from AAA, IRON and IAC. ILY is under siege. Catch - BOB pulled out of 5-n2 and v2, systems which they claimed by POS spamming and were currently under attack, when MC turned. FAT has its cyno jammer down and the siege is beginning. IAC, AAA and Brotherhood of steel and the RSF are active in this campaign. Delve - Infested with Pandemic legion and the NPC stations are being used as a logistics base by coalition powers. BOB has tight control of PR-8 and NOL, but even those are being raided. Lots of mining towers in Delve have been destroyed and I believe replaced, and PL are stricking at deathstars. All other coalition powers are active in this theater, even through raids. I believe KOS is working hard here also. Thats about as neutral as you are going to get, sadly. A most excellent analysis. I praise it! Mad props!
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.22 08:04:00 - [12] Originally by: Himo Amasacia And when members of BOB start praising it you know its of the highest and unbiased quality. some of the moderators are in fact goons. i notice that you leave a nice trail of flaimbaits. you sure you're not smacking SHC just because you got banned?
Fry Fortune Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 08:10:00 - [13] snacks on some wounded tigers
Ofelia Jacobsson	Posted - 2007.12.22 09:56:00 - [14] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 22/12/2007 07:52:45 Essentially, BOB have lost everything they have gained over a year and a half of fighting up to this point, bar 2 stations in Catch Period basis - MC, evoke outbreak and KIA are claiming the region. BOB are striking at them with as many pets as it can muster. Fountain - Under attack by BRUCE and a few other northern powers. Several stations have already fallen Querious - Attacked by RAZOR with some support from AAA, IRON and IAC. ILY is under siege. Catch - BOB pulled out of 5-n2 and v2, systems which they claimed by POS spamming and were currently under attack, when MC turned. FAT has its cyno jammer down and the siege is beginning. IAC, AAA and Brotherhood of steel and the RSF are active in this campaign. Delve - Infested with Pandemic legion and the NPC stations are being used as a logistics base by coalition powers. BOB has tight control of PR-8 and NOL, but even those are being raided. Lots of mining towers in Delve have been destroyed and I believe replaced, and PL are stricking at deathstars. All other coalition powers are active in this theater, even through raids. I believe KOS is working hard here also. Thats about as neutral as you are going to get, sadly. Thank you Himo. Finally a none gibrish answer.
Teldi Beinew GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 10:04:00 - [15] Originally by: Nahia Senne some of the moderators are in fact goons. i notice that you leave a nice trail of flaimbaits. you sure you're not smacking SHC just because you got banned? good point, it is not just endorsed by bob, it is also endorsed by hippoking
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.22 12:37:00 - [16] Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 22/12/2007 12:37:39 Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 22/12/2007 12:37:11 Originally by: Nahia Senne Originally by: Himo Amasacia And when members of BOB start praising it you know its of the highest and unbiased quality. some of the moderators are in fact goons. i notice that you leave a nice trail of flaimbaits. you sure you're not smacking SHC just because you got banned? I've never posted on SHC in my life. I just don't consider as good or unbiased as people try and make it out to be. It is very good for Minmatar and other ship setups though. shrug Originally by: Ofelia Jacobsson Thank you Himo. Finally a none gibrish answer. Your very welcome. I know how hard it is to get halfway accurate info even in the best of times, so I like to respond to requests for raw information when I see them. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
HonorHarrington DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 14:56:00 - [17] A update on FAT Last night all 7 POS were put into reinforced by a combined alliance fleet. I know it was at least IAC and Goon, not sure who else. The station services were knocked out as well. The next few days should prove interesting as they come out. These were very tough POS with ECM, spare guns and sometimes 4-5 gunners. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Shayleigh Snowflower DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 15:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Nahia Senne there are still people who have not discovered the SHC forums, where crapposters and flamebaits get banned? And here is the contribution from Shay for worst post ever. Espesially take notes of the typos and the pubbie use of smilies. Anyone with something important to say can say it on Eve-O. Hiding in some other forum with even more biased moderators are just bad. The moderators are fairly active in the COAD section of Eve-O and those moderators have a , from my point of view atleast, a hostile standing towards my alliance. However, we can not let that stop us from informing the rest of the people in EVE on what is going on. A lot of our reporters have been gagged lately, and a couple have even been taken out behind a moon and exectured. (Perm banned in game and on forums). I think that are a bit cruel and injust punishment, but, he paid in blood fighting for the civil rights of every Goon out there. They right to win this game. PS : Nahia, U loose... And, until there are no more users of the domain killboard.net, the train will keep rolling. Back or front?Both ways are fine by me.
Schani Kratnorr Internal Revenue Service	Posted - 2007.12.22 15:37:00 - [19] Neutrality is probaly the only thing no one in EVE can ever claim to have... CAOD (this forum) has been utterly ruined by kindargarten rejects like goonswarm and their alts. The lack of forceful moderation is turned this place into a wasteland. My advice is to close this forum and never come back. You will never learn anything useful here that asking in a random local channel wont teach you. Close CAOD!
Mr Ninjaface Minmatar Shurekin INC	Posted - 2007.12.22 15:55:00 - [20] Mc and friends are fighting for Period basis as well as they can despite factors like lag. Bob are putting up all efforts to defend their remaining space and reclaim what ever they have lost there. Last night BoB and MC has a show down and cap ships where killed on the MC side. Querious is being sieged by Razor with help from Pandemic Legions AAA Iron IAC and Roadkill. Yesterday bob jumped in a fleet to help fix but where engaged at a gate and forced to warp off and then wiped out at a POS later. Some bob remain in the system most have returned to delve/period basis fronts. Fix are on their own here it seems. Delve is the new home of Pandemic Legion for the moment. They are sieging as much of bobs assets as best as they can with roaming fleets of Geddons and dodging claims of being 'nanofags' from bob. Razor is doing the same as well when they are not in Querious. Catch has been left for whom ever wants it seems. Fountain is under attack by BRUCE, if you can still call it an attack it more like pillaging at the moment. Bob have lost almost everything at this point, check eve maps to see what assets they retain.
Emrod Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 16:06:00 - [21] Originally by: Schani Kratnorr Neutrality is probaly the only thing no one in EVE can ever claim to have... Close CAOD! Fixed and approved! COAD is for morons.......hey...wait a minute 0o !!!
MAXSuicide Team Cool	Posted - 2007.12.22 16:37:00 - [22] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 22/12/2007 16:38:15 Originally by: Ofelia Jacobsson I'm trying to read the forums to get an overview of how the war goes between BOB and the others. It's kind of hard since the majority of the postings are just mumbo jumbo. Please, could some one give us a SERIOUS neutral war report. Thank you. The daily goon thread updates on how evil bob are and how Goon will triumph got repetitive some time ago, and i guess that's all you've had to go off :/
Rainoer Amarr Esoteria Liberation Front	Posted - 2007.12.22 17:31:00 - [23] a. Have any of these numbers been significantly reduced in the last 3/6/12 months? (note the qualifier 'significant' 1.Active Pilots 2. number of super capitol ships 3. number capitol ships, and BS 4. Ability to produce any either of the above 5. net worth in ISK 6. Ability to generate net ISK/month If the general answer to the above is NO then how can one argue BOB is significantly weaker or on the ropes? Are the following observations valid? b. It takes numbers on the ground to occupy space. Just like in regular combat air power and armor can destroy enemy units and resources but it requires infantry to ultimately occupy and hold territory. BoB currently has no infantry. At the beggining of the conflict they had a significant number of client states who could have provided that Infantry. Bob never made a serious effort to organize, lead and intergrate the pilots in allied/client states to act as infantry. c. BoB has consistenly maintained a rather high kill to loss ratio this whole time. d. There are numerous examples of BoB enemies making moves or seizing systems that clearly if BOB had wanted to they could have sucessfully defended. e. There remain virtually no examples of battles in which BoB committed all of there resources all of thier capitols and super capitols and lost the overall battle or took higher losses. f. BoB is known for its tactial and strategic plannning and execution; it is thus premature to assume their recent giving up of territory is not intentional and that their overall strategy requires occupying any significant amount of territory. g. It is also possible that BoB forces are exausted and demoralized and significant numbers of pilots are not logging on or logging on and playing alts or not actively participating in combat missions or responding to calls to log on at a specific time to help with a particular operation.
Commander Diaz Caldari TALON'S GRIP	Posted - 2007.12.22 17:57:00 - [24] chances of you getting anything accurate, worth reading or not mumbo jumbo on these forums are minimal. read scrapheap or follow the killboards and you may get a vague idea of whats going on. best way is to wait a few months and check soveignty on the in game map
Nweilin Ng GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 18:04:00 - [25] the only thing you need to know is that the wounded tiger the tiger before it is wounded.
Malken Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.12.22 18:07:00 - [26] im guessing that while bob tries to make a show with attacking their former pet/neutral mercenary gang the ragoons sit and giggle on the side while they kill eachother some more. i know i would sit and giggle at that.
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.12.22 18:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Malken im guessing that while bob tries to make a show with attacking their former pet/neutral mercenary gang the ragoons sit and giggle on the side while they kill eachother some more. i know i would sit and giggle at that. i think that is pretty much everyone guess.. but the fighting has been fun so i wont complain _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
SunglassesInSpace GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.22 18:24:00 - [28] Originally by: Rainoer c. BoB has consistenly maintained a rather high kill to loss ratio this whole time. MY K:D RATIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Mr Ninjaface Minmatar Shurekin INC	Posted - 2007.12.22 18:27:00 - [29] Originally by: Commander Diaz chances of you getting anything accurate, worth reading or not mumbo jumbo on these forums are minimal. read scrapheap or follow the killboards and you may get a vague idea of whats going on. best way is to wait a few months and check soveignty on the in game map scrap heap is a big steaming pile of ****.
Sodred League of Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.12.22 18:53:00 - [30] Originally by: Rainoer a. Have any of these numbers been significantly reduced in the last 3/6/12 months? (note the qualifier 'significant' 1.Active Pilots 2. number of super capitol ships 3. number capitol ships, and BS 4. Ability to produce any either of the above 5. net worth in ISK 6. Ability to generate net ISK/month If the general answer to the above is NO then how can one argue BOB is significantly weaker or on the ropes? Are the following observations valid? b. It takes numbers on the ground to occupy space. Just like in regular combat air power and armor can destroy enemy units and resources but it requires infantry to ultimately occupy and hold territory. BoB currently has no infantry. At the beggining of the conflict they had a significant number of client states who could have provided that Infantry. Bob never made a serious effort to organize, lead and intergrate the pilots in allied/client states to act as infantry. c. BoB has consistenly maintained a rather high kill to loss ratio this whole time. d. There are numerous examples of BoB enemies making moves or seizing systems that clearly if BOB had wanted to they could have sucessfully defended. e. There remain virtually no examples of battles in which BoB committed all of there resources all of thier capitols and super capitols and lost the overall battle or took higher losses. f. BoB is known for its tactial and strategic plannning and execution; it is thus premature to assume their recent giving up of territory is not intentional and that their overall strategy requires occupying any significant amount of territory. g. It is also possible that BoB forces are exausted and demoralized and significant numbers of pilots are not logging on or logging on and playing alts or not actively participating in combat missions or responding to calls to log on at a specific time to help with a particular operation. The telling factor is: Who is imposing their will on the enemy? GBC or RSF?

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