Gruxella
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.23 11:47:00 -
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You really shouldn't be bashing zulu.
Devs don't make these decisions on their own. Nano setups have gotten out of hand and they need to be looked at. Dont blame zulu because the devs collectively think that nano setups are overpowered, or at the very least need to be looked into. Zulu provided an example where one ship is able to bubble an entire fleet with zero risk.
Stop bashing him. Show some respect. It may be a game, but this game is something the devs work with and on for 40+ hours a week. It was mentioned they even talk about these issues after work at the bar. The devs put a lot of effort into making this game great. They know what they're doing, and just because you don't agree; it doesn't make you right. Have some faith.
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Gruxella
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.24 06:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Rells
The fact that you make such a post is funny. It shows that you know nothing about the game or tactics within Eve. You can catch a snaked vagabond with a three ship tactic. You need an interdictor, any ship with two webs and any damage ship. How? You figure it out if you have a brain.
Insults won't cut it.
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There are many ships in the game that counter a vagabond. A Curse, Rapier, Hugin will kill them flat out. Neither a Vagabond nor any other ship would come within about 50km of my Curse. A Falcon will jam them and render them a spectator -- ditto for the Griffin, Blackbird, Scorpion and Kitsune. Three well flown interceptors will track him down and kil lhim or force him to run away. A sniping battleship will cream the vagabond at range. A single Maulus, Arazu or Lachesis will damp them down so far they cant target thier own shoelaces. A single crucifier or anyone else with tracking disruptors will make the ship effectively not there as its guns wont be able to hit anything. What do I do with a Vaga thats jammed, damped, tracked or so on? I ignore it. It might as well be some covops spectating in my fight. If I want to catch it, I get creative.
All good ideas, but that doesnt mean I can kill the vagabond. He can just run away. Sure he's countered, but he's still alive and will be back.
However I want to reiterate that I am not talking about vagabonds, I'm talking about nano-ships in general.
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Your problem is that your thinking is shallow, reminding me of one of those big dumb guys stereotyped in mobster movies that can think of nothing but "I am bigger, me should be able to pound you." The game is more than gank and tank. It is a game heavy on tactics and SKILLS of the pilots under your command.
Again you use insults. You assume that I don't use tactics because I dont fly a nano ship. Nano setups are the get out of jail free card. They don't require tactics beyond manually flying and keeping an eye on your range to target. I fit myself a nano-vexor the other day. It doesnt do much damage but I can engage whatever I want with minimal risk. This is the problem with nano setups, and I think DHB WildCat sums it up nicely, as quoted at the end of this post.
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You, and Zulupark, clearly know nothing about this game. You fit up your ship and think combat is F1 through F8 and that is why people own you. The difference between you and those pilots frustrating you is that they know how to play and you should still be running missions for your academy agent in 1.0 space.
No one is owning me. Eve is an ever evolving game. I've learned to deal with nano ships.
That doesn't mean I need to like them. Your constant trolling is only making you look bad. If you want to take this further, find me in game.
Originally by: DHB WildCat
... Now make a point. You say there are ways to counter your ship speed. You are correct. Tell me how to kill it without a rapier / huginn / hyena?
Speed is fine on some ships. Dictors for eample.... get in drop bubble get out. No damage their and no tank to hold anything down. Now a vaga or ishtar, of which I fly both fyi. These ships exploit speed. They utilize it to be invulnerable. Now I will exploit this until they fix it. I have never felt safer in a ship than I do in a vaga. Nothing can catch me at 9-10k. Except maybe a ceptor that has to run in a straight line to get to me, in which case I kill it with my guns 8).
To be able to attack a ship without having to commit yourself is something people used to do with stabs 8). So since I am in the habit of not dying I will exploit the game as much as I can and use the unkillable ships. If I see a rapier / huginn. Ill disengage and warp off. As long as CCP is drunk and do not play the game, then Ill use this exploit to my advantage like any other smart pilot. I'll use it, but I hate it. Althoguh I really do love my Mach 8).
WildCat
Thank you.
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