Originally by: Ernesto Hoost

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Calm down Arlenna, swearing doesn't make your point any more valid

Just because you can't kill a speed ship, you think CCP should eliminate them so your 1 viable set up can fight?

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Originally by: Drasked

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If nanos get nerfed my corp will fly strictly bs blobs with dura/gank/spider tank setups, and seen as where now all in slow bs we will not be able to move around as much and as far as we where able to before, also since where so slow moving we need like 10 people minimal (thats about 15-20 bs) instead of 2/3 (about 5/6 nano ships), also because where not stupid and we scout EVERYTHING, we will see everything that is coming from light years away so if we don't want to fight now, we don't, just like with nano ships, we will have the ability not to commit to a fight because we simply see what is going to happen.

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Originally by: Drasked

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Edited by: Drasked on 25/12/2007 12:05:24

Originally by: Aleranie

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You are seriously directly equating speed with skill.

You really do not have much of a clue.

Feel free to bring your spider-tanking gang anywhere you care to.

You may actually have to run the risk of being forced engage against someone capable of killing you when you run into a hostile force 20 jumps into enemy territory. Who wins after that is where skill actually comes int play.

The whole thing where you can be 3/4 dead, webbed and scrammed but still escape because you still go over 1km/s with a web on you is whats going to get nerfed. It needs to.

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How can i possible be forced to take on something i dont want against people that cant force nano ships to something they dont want?

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Originally by: Drasked

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Originally by: Igetshotalot

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Originally by: Drasked

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Edited by: Drasked on 25/12/2007 12:05:24

Originally by: Aleranie

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You are seriously directly equating speed with skill.

You really do not have much of a clue.

Feel free to bring your spider-tanking gang anywhere you care to.

You may actually have to run the risk of being forced engage against someone capable of killing you when you run into a hostile force 20 jumps into enemy territory. Who wins after that is where skill actually comes int play.

The whole thing where you can be 3/4 dead, webbed and scrammed but still escape because you still go over 1km/s with a web on you is whats going to get nerfed. It needs to.

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How can i possible be forced to take on something i dont want against people that cant force nano ships to something they dont want?

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you can always set up some traps and nasty slings. and trust me if you come in bs and slow fatt as ships they gonna work:) perhaps you fall for a bait. perhaps we hide few jumps away in a system your scout missed. happens all the time.. just with the exception that you probably wont be able to get out of this situation again other than kill us or in a pod:)

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Is setting up traps for bs gangs so much diffrent from setting up traps for nano gangs?

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Originally by: Matrixcvd

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Originally by: Dillius Archania

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Everyone's always like, "Think outside the box", and that's it. Never any actual strategies, just "You're not trying hard enough".

It's so easy, then fine. We are facing 3 Vagabond pilots, assume decently skilled and equipped. We have a Gallente, Amarr, and Caldari Pilot. What would you have each fly, what would the specifics of their fittings be that made it work?

If all these people that can't handle nano-gangs are so stupid, prove it by showing them up. I personally have no idea, but sheerly based on statistics I definitely believe something is wrong until proven otherwise

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First, nobody is gonna come on these forums and teach you, you wanna pay me money i can teach you but i want at least 100mil to show you what to do. People want fits to kill ships and it takes time and skill to beat, players who have skill and experience. Just cause you can't beat a nano game doesn't mean the mechanics are off. it means you are learning and need to learn more. You have to learn on your own or get with people who can show you the right way. ITs a hard game, eve is like life, its a cold cruel world out there.....

1. stop whining
2. realize you don't know how to pvp
3. join a corp who can teach you
4. tell your friends to do the same
5. stop looking to the forums to vent your noob BS and encourge other losers to stop taking their "i got ganked so the game must be f-up'd" routine to the forums, and i might actually teach you for free.

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Originally by: burek

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Just please stop this "my torp uber raven (or any BS) can't touch a vagabond" you ******* idiot. He's flying a cruiser so why don't you bring a cruiser class ship? Clueless ****, how many times have you actually fought a nano ship or flown one?
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Originally by: Drasked

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Edited by: Drasked on 26/12/2007 13:12:46

Originally by: Igetshotalot

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Edited by: Igetshotalot on 25/12/2007 12:26:22

Originally by: Drasked

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Originally by: Igetshotalot

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you can always set up some traps and nasty slings. and trust me if you come in bs and slow fatt as ships they gonna work:) perhaps you fall for a bait. perhaps we hide few jumps away in a system your scout missed. happens all the time.. just with the exception that you probably wont be able to get out of this situation again other than kill us or in a pod:)

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Is setting up traps for bs gangs so much diffrent from setting up traps for nano gangs?

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yes! also if you remoterep the fight will be longer and much more fun:)

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Im sorry people feel this way, tho it shows they can't pvp.

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Originally by: Bibi

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The moste sad thing in all this is that ccp wants to push all pvpers in eve in to BLOB-warfare.

This is what will go down if they nerf speed! some people may say well thats not true. But just look at the south-war and alliance war and pos wars space holding wars in general...
You will not find nano ships in thos wars in a large scale becuse they dont work in that type of fights.
(take a GOOD look at there killboards and see what ships and fitting they use)
Moste people that pvp in eve dont use Nano-ships!

So how can it be that ccp listen to a few people on the forums that wants nano-ships nerfed when the major part of the pvpers use other-ships thats NOT nano fitted?

To even hold a little bit of space in eve you need fire power and blobs thats how its done capital ships etc etc...

IS this the only way in eve now ???

The part of the game thats worst for the server and you force even more people in to this!
The server TODAY cant handle the bigger fights where the HELL is the goddamn balance in this game people!

But still you go with the people that complain!
This game is heading the Blob way and it seems like the dev-team like this idea....Becuse nothing else will happen when they nerf speed.

IF dev-team says something else they are totaly blind...
And its just sad I really want to stay in eve but I'm just not going to spend time in a blob laggged out for 30mins before everyfight.

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Sorry - Speed creates Blobs.

Nano ships do less damage so they need to blob people with nanoships.

Nano is killing eve and is destroying pvp as much as WCS did.

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