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Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.23 23:35:00 - [1] Edited by: Ufl on 23/12/2007 23:35:12 http://www.nuconcorporation.com Looking to begin an Initial Public Offering with your corporation? Seeking to list shares for sale on a secured and insured trading network? Nucon Stock Exchange (NUEX) The only EVE-Online Stock Exchange that offers insured share value is now live and ready for more players. We have completed the first phase of BETA, and we are ready to begin accepting BETA Phase II accounts, numbering 60 new accounts maximum for the month of January 2008. Many new changes and systems have been put in place to maximize the amount of capital available to the CEO after the initial launch of the IPO - while still retaining the highest amount of mitigated risk by insuring share value. NuBank has opened and is offering investors Savings Accounts(3.75% interest rate), Stock Trading Accounts (allow investors to buy and sell stock without being online, gain 0.50% interest), and Personal and Business Loans. NuBank stands out from other banks in its high interest yield - and availability of funds. NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. Join us in the NUEX channel or on our Ventrilo server for more information! Sign Up Today In other news NUEX has completed its first steps on Google rankings, rated as #3 when "Eve Online Stock Ticker" is searched, and climbing 4 rankings to #7 when "Eve Online Stock Exchange" is searched. We are scheduled for the #1 positions within the next 60-90 days. In addition the NUEX has grown over 2500% since inception (a total of 7 days), and we are continuing to expand rapidly. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Shadowcores	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:00:00 - [2] Originally by: Ufl NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. lulz
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:33:00 - [3] Originally by: Ufl Many new changes and systems have been put in place to maximize the amount of capital available to the CEO after the initial launch of the IPO - while still retaining the highest amount of mitigated risk by insuring share value. Can you be specific about these new changes and systems? Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:36:00 - [4] This is epic. The dawn of another 8 page thread against the OP. And i'm on the front page http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
Redbad Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:41:00 - [5] \0/ Christmastime just got a whole lot better ... RB
Kara Rhane Gallente Rhane's Research and Development Labs.	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:41:00 - [6] I have to admit, you are persistant. There are almost 95% of the 'trusted/respected' people on here saying "I wouldn't trust Ufl's plan, business, or idea" And yet you continue to push the idea forwards. I'm still wondering if the many questions presented to you are still being ignored or not. You might want to rethink this, since you really don't have public backing, support, or trust. ***** Rhane's Research and Development LabsÖ Click to search our Ammo's, Missiles, and Drone BPO sets.
Redbad Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Kara Rhane I have to admit, you are persistant. Where I come from we call it bullheaded.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Balogh Originally by: Ufl Many new changes and systems have been put in place to maximize the amount of capital available to the CEO after the initial launch of the IPO - while still retaining the highest amount of mitigated risk by insuring share value. Can you be specific about these new changes and systems? Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? Sure, its real simple. A CEO can take out a loan on the collateral based on the percentage of shares he holds - either pay the loan back for shares when complete or start a buyback. Full Fund Availability: You can withdraw 100% of your deposited ISK 24/7/365 without any withdrawal fees. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Calgorac The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:55:00 - [9] again? don't you get tired of posting this? the only thing that will happen to legitimate IPO's that launch thru your exchange... and to legitimate players who buy those shares is a double scam by you.... you will take the IPO security isk and the ISk used to purchase stocks by the players and disappear... everyone knows this... so why do you persist in this scam? Latest News
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:20:00 - [10] Edited by: Balogh on 24/12/2007 01:20:46 Originally by: Ufl Quote: Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? Full Fund Availability: You can withdraw 100% of your deposited ISK 24/7/365 without any withdrawal fees. Do you mean one can request a withdrawal at any time, or do you mean the withdrawal is executed within a certain time? If you meant withdrawal requests at any time, then NuBank is not the only bank to offer that, in contrast to what you stated. EBANK also allows requesting a withdrawal at any time. Even RESX, which isn't a bank, has a similar withdrawal request system. I don't know what the withdrawal procedure is for Fury Bank. If you meant executing withdrawals before a certain time span, please be more specific. '24/7/365' doesn't indicate how fast withdrawals are executed. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
May Shiko	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:26:00 - [11] Without using buzzwords or dodging the question; Could you please explain why this system is 'good' for IPO managers of a scale like my own? In summary: Your system requires me to already have the money I'd be looking to raise with one of EVE's traditional IPOs (remember this is EVE, not real life) What guarantees, securities and precautions you offer (in detail) to sa***uard the collateral/isk I would be handing over? How large is your active market, how many active traders do you expect in two months? Six months? A year? Thank you for your time as I feel these are all questions that should be answered as clearly, concisely and as accurately as possible to attract those like myself (ie your target market) to engage your services instead of the RESX/EGSEX for free and without collateral on our part.
Khatred Fluffy Mungoose Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:36:00 - [12] I want a loan. Can I put all my bpos as collateral?
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Balogh Edited by: Balogh on 24/12/2007 01:20:46 Originally by: Ufl Quote: Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? Full Fund Availability: You can withdraw 100% of your deposited ISK 24/7/365 without any withdrawal fees. Do you mean one can request a withdrawal at any time, or do you mean the withdrawal is executed within a certain time? If you meant withdrawal requests at any time, then NuBank is not the only bank to offer that, in contrast to what you stated. EBANK also allows requesting a withdrawal at any time. Even RESX, which isn't a bank, has a similar withdrawal request system. I don't know what the withdrawal procedure is for Fury Bank. If you meant executing withdrawals before a certain time span, please be more specific. '24/7/365' doesn't indicate how fast withdrawals are executed. Ill KISS it for ya: If all NUEX customers were to execute a 100% withdrawal of all funds on the same day at the same time, all funds would be fully available. If this were to happen to other banks or exchanges they would not have 100% of all deposited funds available for withdrawal, 24 hours of a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year - with no withdrawal fee. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Fader Bane Black Knight Buccaneers Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:09:00 - [14] how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. ________________________________________
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:14:00 - [15] Originally by: May Shiko Without using buzzwords or dodging the question; Could you please explain why this system is 'good' for IPO managers of a scale like my own? In summary: Your system requires me to already have the money I'd be looking to raise with one of EVE's traditional IPOs (remember this is EVE, not real life) What guarantees, securities and precautions you offer (in detail) to sa*uard the collateral/isk I would be handing over? How large is your active market, how many active traders do you expect in two months? Six months? A year? Thank you for your time as I feel these are all questions that should be answered as clearly, concisely and as accurately as possible to attract those like myself (ie your target market) to engage your services instead of the RESX/EGSEX for free and without collateral on our part. I am not sure of your "scale" but I will say that our IPO system allows for more investors due to the mitigated risk. You can raise more funds and have more available to you via our CEO Loan system - your shares (chances are you will own 51%) are worth (x%) - which can be used as capital. It is the CEO's job to promote the corporation and make sure they have a good forward looking business plan. What guarantees, securites, and precautions do we offer to sa*uard your ISK? It never leaves the vault of the NUEX corporation, all investors get to put a character in the NUEX corporation for accounting purposes, so essentially you are still watching your own money but so are the people who bought into your corp. Our active market is currently under 30 players but growing quickly. We plan on having over 100 accounts within 2 months and over 400+ accounts in 6 months. Within a year we plan on actually advertising on the internet in order to gain over 2000+ accounts - effectively a little less than 1% of the total population. The best example for IPO and Capital is the example I have set with NUCO; Issued 1mil shares, 1mil ISK net assets - IPO sold out net assets now worth 3+mil. Before offering shares were 1isk each, after 3isk each - With the CEO Loan system I secured 50% more ISK than before the IPO using the 51% of the shares I own. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:15:00 - [16] Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:15:10 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:16:22 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. We are insured against a "run on the bank." Details: We dont invest your money, we're a BANK not an investment firm. Have you researched how real Banks work at all? Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
May Shiko	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:33:00 - [18] Wow, a lot of buzzwords. Thanks advertising man. Where's the real CEO?
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:49:00 - [19] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:16:22 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. We are insured against a "run on the bank." Details: We dont invest your money, we're a BANK not an investment firm. That makes no sense. Basically the way you're describing this there is absolutely 0 profit for you in it. So either you're insanely generous, insanely stupid, or a scammer. I find the former very unlikely and I feel the latter two are not mutually exclusive. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:05:00 - [20] Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. There is a likely chance most NuBank members will subscribe for trading as well. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:22:00 - [21] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. Conveniently left that out of the initial post hey? Improve Market Competition!
Coconut Joe VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. There is a likely chance most NuBank members will subscribe for trading as well. Can you show us the numbers you used to come to that conclusion please? - Eve IGB Store Template - The complete eve retail solution.
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:44:00 - [23] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:16:22 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. We are insured against a "run on the bank." Nice try. EBANK have reserve funds available to the tune of 65 billion isk. These are basically wealthy private entities who fund EBANK in the event of a run on the bank. Now, the reserves reach 65b, our current customers accounts hold 70b. We also have about 15b cash on hand, 40b in loans, and 10-15b in investments. If you honestly believe real life banks don't invest certain percentages of their funds then you are far less knowledgeable than I thought (note: was going to say stupid but will leave that to other people)
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:49:00 - [24] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. There is a likely chance most NuBank members will subscribe for trading as well. Can you explain what both of those sentences mean. They don't mean anything to me right now. Many of your sentences do not seem to use proper grammar, instead they seem to just use a lot of taglines, mumbojumbo, slang, marketing terms, etc. Please explain, in detail, what the heck you're talking about and drop all the marketing slang. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group New Eden Research	Posted - 2007.12.24 04:17:00 - [25] Is this the same "bank" or whatever that I keep seeing spammed in the Jita local chat? Just as annoying as the scammers spamming, maybe the two are one in the same. ---------------------------------------------- Why do it the hard way when you can do it the AMARR way.
eosfun Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.24 05:21:00 - [26] Getting on front page while i can. This one is gonna be good. Anyways, I would like to say that yet again, everyone in ebank beats you to a pulp. Now, since there is more changes, does it mean its less of a scam? Ha. Well, i still think its a scam... Ha, a bank, Cally. EVE'S PORTAL Coming Soon, I swear :D
Fader Bane Black Knight Buccaneers Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.24 05:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:16:22 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. We are insured against a "run on the bank." Details: We dont invest your money, we're a BANK not an investment firm. yes that's all nice and all but HOW? A real bank makes it's money from investments and interest paid through loans. the only income that your establishment seems to have or will have is the 1% transaction fee. does that mean you will not touch any of the isk in the bank? how is that transaction fee any better than withdrawal fees? also without a diversified and substantial income how will you handle inflation and value flucuations of share value? ________________________________________
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:09:00 - [28] NUCON SAVINGS AND LOAN....... --
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:57:00 - [29] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Balogh Edited by: Balogh on 24/12/2007 01:20:46 Originally by: Ufl Quote: Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? Full Fund Availability: You can withdraw 100% of your deposited ISK 24/7/365 without any withdrawal fees. Do you mean one can request a withdrawal at any time, or do you mean the withdrawal is executed within a certain time? If you meant withdrawal requests at any time, then NuBank is not the only bank to offer that, in contrast to what you stated. EBANK also allows requesting a withdrawal at any time. Even RESX, which isn't a bank, has a similar withdrawal request system. I don't know what the withdrawal procedure is for Fury Bank. If you meant executing withdrawals before a certain time span, please be more specific. '24/7/365' doesn't indicate how fast withdrawals are executed. Ill KISS it for ya: If all NUEX customers were to execute a 100% withdrawal of all funds on the same day at the same time, all funds would be fully available. If this were to happen to other banks or exchanges they would not have 100% of all deposited funds available for withdrawal, 24 hours of a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year - with no withdrawal fee. 24/7? So you're constantly online and can send ISK during down-time? Impressive.
Assens Letta Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:58:00 - [30] Atm the securities are all in NUEX vaults, by speculating with others pplÆs funds (bank deposits) into NUEX stock exchange, NUEX will actively inflate prices on the market, generating what you said Ufl, more market capitalization/speculation and (the funds being in NUEX) therefore drawing more ppl into investingà adding more assets to NUEX vaults, from both traders and incoming IPOÆs. It does raise a serious question of ethics I think, it also raises the question of security once more, who guarantees us that NUEX just doesnÆt vanish with the isk? Does NUEX plan to do external audits by a 3rd party? If yes, who? If not, why? And donÆt you think it creates more suspiciousness onto NUEX? So, does NUBANK intend to apply all its deposits into NUEX? If so doesnÆt that make the ôNUBANK Guarantees 100% fund availabilityö statement false, has the funds will be locked into the stock/corp. security in NUEX vault? If it isnÆt secured in the vault but inside NUBANK doesnÆt it raise the ethics question again? IsnÆt it all creative accounting and pure speculation again? If NUBANK doesnÆt intend to apply the deposits in any way whatÆs the purpose of the bank? Does NUBANK plan to raise the isk to pay the interests via the loan it issues? How much are we looking at in terms of interest to the borrowing party? And how many loans do you think that NUBANK has to issue to cover a given amount of savings accounts? Oh waità granting a loan doesnÆt make the ôNUBANK Guarantees 100% fund availabilityö statement false? In case NUBANK has in its possession the ôcollateralö from the IPOÆs doesnÆt that make that a sort of a deposit or trust fund? What if all companies go bankrupt or hit by a bus case scenario and investors have to be paid? DoesnÆt that mean that ôNUBANK Guarantees 100% fund availabilityö is impossible in case there is a bank race ? and IN CASE its possible and NUBANK ha assets available for that, how much can NUBANK afford to cover ? 1B? 2B? 10B? I think this question need some answers, and in terms of credibility they should be answered or else fail to have any at all. Thanks

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