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Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.23 23:35:00 - [1] Edited by: Ufl on 23/12/2007 23:35:12 http://www.nuconcorporation.com Looking to begin an Initial Public Offering with your corporation? Seeking to list shares for sale on a secured and insured trading network? Nucon Stock Exchange (NUEX) The only EVE-Online Stock Exchange that offers insured share value is now live and ready for more players. We have completed the first phase of BETA, and we are ready to begin accepting BETA Phase II accounts, numbering 60 new accounts maximum for the month of January 2008. Many new changes and systems have been put in place to maximize the amount of capital available to the CEO after the initial launch of the IPO - while still retaining the highest amount of mitigated risk by insuring share value. NuBank has opened and is offering investors Savings Accounts(3.75% interest rate), Stock Trading Accounts (allow investors to buy and sell stock without being online, gain 0.50% interest), and Personal and Business Loans. NuBank stands out from other banks in its high interest yield - and availability of funds. NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. Join us in the NUEX channel or on our Ventrilo server for more information! Sign Up Today In other news NUEX has completed its first steps on Google rankings, rated as #3 when "Eve Online Stock Ticker" is searched, and climbing 4 rankings to #7 when "Eve Online Stock Exchange" is searched. We are scheduled for the #1 positions within the next 60-90 days. In addition the NUEX has grown over 2500% since inception (a total of 7 days), and we are continuing to expand rapidly. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Shadowcores	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:00:00 - [2] Originally by: Ufl NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. lulz
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:33:00 - [3] Originally by: Ufl Many new changes and systems have been put in place to maximize the amount of capital available to the CEO after the initial launch of the IPO - while still retaining the highest amount of mitigated risk by insuring share value. Can you be specific about these new changes and systems? Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:36:00 - [4] This is epic. The dawn of another 8 page thread against the OP. And i'm on the front page http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
Redbad Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:41:00 - [5] \0/ Christmastime just got a whole lot better ... RB
Kara Rhane Gallente Rhane's Research and Development Labs.	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:41:00 - [6] I have to admit, you are persistant. There are almost 95% of the 'trusted/respected' people on here saying "I wouldn't trust Ufl's plan, business, or idea" And yet you continue to push the idea forwards. I'm still wondering if the many questions presented to you are still being ignored or not. You might want to rethink this, since you really don't have public backing, support, or trust. ***** Rhane's Research and Development LabsÖ Click to search our Ammo's, Missiles, and Drone BPO sets.
Redbad Minmatar Mean Corp	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Kara Rhane I have to admit, you are persistant. Where I come from we call it bullheaded.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Balogh Originally by: Ufl Many new changes and systems have been put in place to maximize the amount of capital available to the CEO after the initial launch of the IPO - while still retaining the highest amount of mitigated risk by insuring share value. Can you be specific about these new changes and systems? Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? Sure, its real simple. A CEO can take out a loan on the collateral based on the percentage of shares he holds - either pay the loan back for shares when complete or start a buyback. Full Fund Availability: You can withdraw 100% of your deposited ISK 24/7/365 without any withdrawal fees. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Calgorac The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.24 00:55:00 - [9] again? don't you get tired of posting this? the only thing that will happen to legitimate IPO's that launch thru your exchange... and to legitimate players who buy those shares is a double scam by you.... you will take the IPO security isk and the ISk used to purchase stocks by the players and disappear... everyone knows this... so why do you persist in this scam? Latest News
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:20:00 - [10] Edited by: Balogh on 24/12/2007 01:20:46 Originally by: Ufl Quote: Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? Full Fund Availability: You can withdraw 100% of your deposited ISK 24/7/365 without any withdrawal fees. Do you mean one can request a withdrawal at any time, or do you mean the withdrawal is executed within a certain time? If you meant withdrawal requests at any time, then NuBank is not the only bank to offer that, in contrast to what you stated. EBANK also allows requesting a withdrawal at any time. Even RESX, which isn't a bank, has a similar withdrawal request system. I don't know what the withdrawal procedure is for Fury Bank. If you meant executing withdrawals before a certain time span, please be more specific. '24/7/365' doesn't indicate how fast withdrawals are executed. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
May Shiko	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:26:00 - [11] Without using buzzwords or dodging the question; Could you please explain why this system is 'good' for IPO managers of a scale like my own? In summary: Your system requires me to already have the money I'd be looking to raise with one of EVE's traditional IPOs (remember this is EVE, not real life) What guarantees, securities and precautions you offer (in detail) to sa***uard the collateral/isk I would be handing over? How large is your active market, how many active traders do you expect in two months? Six months? A year? Thank you for your time as I feel these are all questions that should be answered as clearly, concisely and as accurately as possible to attract those like myself (ie your target market) to engage your services instead of the RESX/EGSEX for free and without collateral on our part.
Khatred Fluffy Mungoose Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:36:00 - [12] I want a loan. Can I put all my bpos as collateral?
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Balogh Edited by: Balogh on 24/12/2007 01:20:46 Originally by: Ufl Quote: Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? Full Fund Availability: You can withdraw 100% of your deposited ISK 24/7/365 without any withdrawal fees. Do you mean one can request a withdrawal at any time, or do you mean the withdrawal is executed within a certain time? If you meant withdrawal requests at any time, then NuBank is not the only bank to offer that, in contrast to what you stated. EBANK also allows requesting a withdrawal at any time. Even RESX, which isn't a bank, has a similar withdrawal request system. I don't know what the withdrawal procedure is for Fury Bank. If you meant executing withdrawals before a certain time span, please be more specific. '24/7/365' doesn't indicate how fast withdrawals are executed. Ill KISS it for ya: If all NUEX customers were to execute a 100% withdrawal of all funds on the same day at the same time, all funds would be fully available. If this were to happen to other banks or exchanges they would not have 100% of all deposited funds available for withdrawal, 24 hours of a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year - with no withdrawal fee. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Fader Bane Black Knight Buccaneers Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:09:00 - [14] how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. ________________________________________
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:14:00 - [15] Originally by: May Shiko Without using buzzwords or dodging the question; Could you please explain why this system is 'good' for IPO managers of a scale like my own? In summary: Your system requires me to already have the money I'd be looking to raise with one of EVE's traditional IPOs (remember this is EVE, not real life) What guarantees, securities and precautions you offer (in detail) to sa*uard the collateral/isk I would be handing over? How large is your active market, how many active traders do you expect in two months? Six months? A year? Thank you for your time as I feel these are all questions that should be answered as clearly, concisely and as accurately as possible to attract those like myself (ie your target market) to engage your services instead of the RESX/EGSEX for free and without collateral on our part. I am not sure of your "scale" but I will say that our IPO system allows for more investors due to the mitigated risk. You can raise more funds and have more available to you via our CEO Loan system - your shares (chances are you will own 51%) are worth (x%) - which can be used as capital. It is the CEO's job to promote the corporation and make sure they have a good forward looking business plan. What guarantees, securites, and precautions do we offer to sa*uard your ISK? It never leaves the vault of the NUEX corporation, all investors get to put a character in the NUEX corporation for accounting purposes, so essentially you are still watching your own money but so are the people who bought into your corp. Our active market is currently under 30 players but growing quickly. We plan on having over 100 accounts within 2 months and over 400+ accounts in 6 months. Within a year we plan on actually advertising on the internet in order to gain over 2000+ accounts - effectively a little less than 1% of the total population. The best example for IPO and Capital is the example I have set with NUCO; Issued 1mil shares, 1mil ISK net assets - IPO sold out net assets now worth 3+mil. Before offering shares were 1isk each, after 3isk each - With the CEO Loan system I secured 50% more ISK than before the IPO using the 51% of the shares I own. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:15:00 - [16] Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:15:10 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:16:22 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. We are insured against a "run on the bank." Details: We dont invest your money, we're a BANK not an investment firm. Have you researched how real Banks work at all? Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
May Shiko	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:33:00 - [18] Wow, a lot of buzzwords. Thanks advertising man. Where's the real CEO?
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:49:00 - [19] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:16:22 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. We are insured against a "run on the bank." Details: We dont invest your money, we're a BANK not an investment firm. That makes no sense. Basically the way you're describing this there is absolutely 0 profit for you in it. So either you're insanely generous, insanely stupid, or a scammer. I find the former very unlikely and I feel the latter two are not mutually exclusive. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:05:00 - [20] Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. There is a likely chance most NuBank members will subscribe for trading as well. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:22:00 - [21] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. Conveniently left that out of the initial post hey? Improve Market Competition!
Coconut Joe VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. There is a likely chance most NuBank members will subscribe for trading as well. Can you show us the numbers you used to come to that conclusion please? - Eve IGB Store Template - The complete eve retail solution.
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:44:00 - [23] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:16:22 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. We are insured against a "run on the bank." Nice try. EBANK have reserve funds available to the tune of 65 billion isk. These are basically wealthy private entities who fund EBANK in the event of a run on the bank. Now, the reserves reach 65b, our current customers accounts hold 70b. We also have about 15b cash on hand, 40b in loans, and 10-15b in investments. If you honestly believe real life banks don't invest certain percentages of their funds then you are far less knowledgeable than I thought (note: was going to say stupid but will leave that to other people)
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.12.24 03:49:00 - [24] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. There is a likely chance most NuBank members will subscribe for trading as well. Can you explain what both of those sentences mean. They don't mean anything to me right now. Many of your sentences do not seem to use proper grammar, instead they seem to just use a lot of taglines, mumbojumbo, slang, marketing terms, etc. Please explain, in detail, what the heck you're talking about and drop all the marketing slang. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group New Eden Research	Posted - 2007.12.24 04:17:00 - [25] Is this the same "bank" or whatever that I keep seeing spammed in the Jita local chat? Just as annoying as the scammers spamming, maybe the two are one in the same. ---------------------------------------------- Why do it the hard way when you can do it the AMARR way.
eosfun Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.24 05:21:00 - [26] Getting on front page while i can. This one is gonna be good. Anyways, I would like to say that yet again, everyone in ebank beats you to a pulp. Now, since there is more changes, does it mean its less of a scam? Ha. Well, i still think its a scam... Ha, a bank, Cally. EVE'S PORTAL Coming Soon, I swear :D
Fader Bane Black Knight Buccaneers Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.24 05:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 02:16:22 Originally by: Fader Bane how will all funds be available if there is a run on the bank? I would really like to see this detailed out. Great question, something you should definately ask EBANK and Fury Bank NuBank offers 100% withdrawal, 100% of the time, 100% of the funds, 0 Fee. We are insured against a "run on the bank." Details: We dont invest your money, we're a BANK not an investment firm. yes that's all nice and all but HOW? A real bank makes it's money from investments and interest paid through loans. the only income that your establishment seems to have or will have is the 1% transaction fee. does that mean you will not touch any of the isk in the bank? how is that transaction fee any better than withdrawal fees? also without a diversified and substantial income how will you handle inflation and value flucuations of share value? ________________________________________
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:09:00 - [28] NUCON SAVINGS AND LOAN....... --
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:57:00 - [29] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Balogh Edited by: Balogh on 24/12/2007 01:20:46 Originally by: Ufl Quote: Quote: NuBank Guarantees 100% fund availability 24/7 for full withdrawal without any fees. NuBank does not charge withdrawal fees, and is the only bank to offer full fund availability to its customers. What exactly is 'full fund availability'? Full Fund Availability: You can withdraw 100% of your deposited ISK 24/7/365 without any withdrawal fees. Do you mean one can request a withdrawal at any time, or do you mean the withdrawal is executed within a certain time? If you meant withdrawal requests at any time, then NuBank is not the only bank to offer that, in contrast to what you stated. EBANK also allows requesting a withdrawal at any time. Even RESX, which isn't a bank, has a similar withdrawal request system. I don't know what the withdrawal procedure is for Fury Bank. If you meant executing withdrawals before a certain time span, please be more specific. '24/7/365' doesn't indicate how fast withdrawals are executed. Ill KISS it for ya: If all NUEX customers were to execute a 100% withdrawal of all funds on the same day at the same time, all funds would be fully available. If this were to happen to other banks or exchanges they would not have 100% of all deposited funds available for withdrawal, 24 hours of a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year - with no withdrawal fee. 24/7? So you're constantly online and can send ISK during down-time? Impressive.
Assens Letta Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:58:00 - [30] Atm the securities are all in NUEX vaults, by speculating with others pplÆs funds (bank deposits) into NUEX stock exchange, NUEX will actively inflate prices on the market, generating what you said Ufl, more market capitalization/speculation and (the funds being in NUEX) therefore drawing more ppl into investingà adding more assets to NUEX vaults, from both traders and incoming IPOÆs. It does raise a serious question of ethics I think, it also raises the question of security once more, who guarantees us that NUEX just doesnÆt vanish with the isk? Does NUEX plan to do external audits by a 3rd party? If yes, who? If not, why? And donÆt you think it creates more suspiciousness onto NUEX? So, does NUBANK intend to apply all its deposits into NUEX? If so doesnÆt that make the ôNUBANK Guarantees 100% fund availabilityö statement false, has the funds will be locked into the stock/corp. security in NUEX vault? If it isnÆt secured in the vault but inside NUBANK doesnÆt it raise the ethics question again? IsnÆt it all creative accounting and pure speculation again? If NUBANK doesnÆt intend to apply the deposits in any way whatÆs the purpose of the bank? Does NUBANK plan to raise the isk to pay the interests via the loan it issues? How much are we looking at in terms of interest to the borrowing party? And how many loans do you think that NUBANK has to issue to cover a given amount of savings accounts? Oh waità granting a loan doesnÆt make the ôNUBANK Guarantees 100% fund availabilityö statement false? In case NUBANK has in its possession the ôcollateralö from the IPOÆs doesnÆt that make that a sort of a deposit or trust fund? What if all companies go bankrupt or hit by a bus case scenario and investors have to be paid? DoesnÆt that mean that ôNUBANK Guarantees 100% fund availabilityö is impossible in case there is a bank race ? and IN CASE its possible and NUBANK ha assets available for that, how much can NUBANK afford to cover ? 1B? 2B? 10B? I think this question need some answers, and in terms of credibility they should be answered or else fail to have any at all. Thanks
McRuder Gallente Magnets and Duct Tape	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:59:00 - [31] Is it not obvious that this person do not know how Financial institutions work? He has no idea what a bank is, or what a bank does. He has no idea what a stock exchange is or do. In all of these threads he has never shown any knowledge or competence. In fact I think all this new thread exist for, is to have a dig at other banks and exchanges - simply trolling. Is everyone now going to feed the troll and rehash all the other threads?
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.24 07:01:00 - [32] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. There is a likely chance most NuBank members will subscribe for trading as well. You realise that for a 1% transaction fee to cover a 3.5% rate of interest you need to have transactions totalling 3.5 times the amount of interest-earning funds each month?
Assens Letta Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.12.24 07:05:00 - [33] Originally by: FastLearner Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. There is a likely chance most NuBank members will subscribe for trading as well. You realise that for a 1% transaction fee to cover a 3.5% rate of interest you need to have transactions totalling 3.5 times the amount of interest-earning funds each month? that is why some figures would help us get our bearings, expect volume of transaction in what given time, limitation to available accounts (or total deposits limit as in EBANK= etc etc the figures seem to be lacking so far.....
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.24 07:09:00 - [34] Originally by: Ufl NuBank stands out from other banks in its high interest yield - and availability of funds. You're wrong on both counts. For availability of funds I suspect EBank is top - due to them having more than 1 person who can process withdrawals. For high interest you're a country mile behind Fury Bank. Fury Bank has two types of accounts - High Interest and Current. Current can withdraw their whole balance any time I'm online. At the moment there's only about 24 billion in current accounts - and I could pay all of that out instantly (Fury keeps a cash reserve of around 20 billion - currently it's actually nearer 30 billion). That's 24 billion earning about 6% per month with immediate access. High Interest Accounts earn even more (nearly 8% per month) but have to give a week's notice for withdrawal. To date all HIA withdrawals have, however, been paid out immediately (other than those who WANTED to wait a week). HIAs aren't currently available (as Fury Bank's current limit of 100 billion in them has been reached) and there's already a waiting list for the next ones - so any sizable "run" on the bank could easily be funded by allowing new depositors to cover the withdrawals. It's very clear you have no idea how either of EBank or Fury Bank work - or what they offer.
twisted genius Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.24 08:37:00 - [35] Looks like a scam, talks like a scam, acts like a scam, spams Jita like a scam, unsecured like a scam, uses alts like a scam, avoids questions like a scam. Its a scam.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.24 08:41:00 - [36] Originally by: twisted genius Looks like a scam, talks like a scam, acts like a scam, spams Jita like a scam, unsecured like a scam, uses alts like a scam, avoids questions like a scam. Its a scam. that is almost sig worthy :) --
Assens Letta Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.12.24 09:28:00 - [37] anyways, care to disclose the other directors/team that share responsability on NUEX at this time (besides answering the before mentioned questions) ?
Letias Caldari Teikoku Trade Conglomerate Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2007.12.24 10:24:00 - [38] If everyone who has sent you money withdraws it all at once you wont be able to pay 100% of it if you have even one single loan out so shut up and ** off. Please! _____________________________ Originally by:** Damini Frostmane Sex isn't sex unless one of you is crying afterwards :-)
Coconut Joe VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.12.24 10:51:00 - [39] Originally by: twisted genius Looks like a scam, talks like a scam, acts like a scam, spams Jita like a scam, unsecured like a scam, uses alts like a scam, avoids questions like a scam. Its a scam. You forgot to add that it's got 'New Con' in the name - Eve IGB Store Template - The complete eve retail solution.
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.24 14:05:00 - [40] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. What's 1% of 0 again? _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Jon Sanng Minmatar Conducti	Posted - 2007.12.24 16:12:00 - [41] I kinda want a few people to fall for this guy just so he can steal a few billion and finally get out of this forum. Really getting tired of reading his crap :/
Kwint Sommer Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2007.12.24 19:20:00 - [42] It's been said plenty of times before but since you insist on posting this stuff again and again I'll respond once more. Your plan for IPO's simply doesn't work. These days it's quite rare that an IPO has enough assets that can be locked down by a third party to ensure the needed capital and yet still used by the corp. In fact this only really happens when they have BPO's and in this case they would be better off having a well known member of the community lock them down than you. In all other situations they end up giving you assets to get an equal value of investment when they simply could have sold the assets in the first place to raise the needed capital. It just doesn't work for IPO's. As far as your bank is concerned, I don't understand why it exists if it isn't intended to make money. In fact, you explicately said none of the capital in it will be used to earn money. So you're giving away your own cash? That makes you either a very bad business man or a guy who's trying to spend a little to establish credibility and ultimately scam billions. Either way, I and at least 95% of the regulars have no intentions of investing. By the way, it's pronounced New Con, right? ___________________________________________ 5% Mining Implants & 5% Manufacturing Implants *From 110M to 150M
Fader Bane Black Knight Buccaneers Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.24 21:46:00 - [43] Originally by: Coconut Joe Originally by: twisted genius Looks like a scam, talks like a scam, acts like a scam, spams Jita like a scam, unsecured like a scam, uses alts like a scam, avoids questions like a scam. Its a scam. You forgot to add that it's got 'New Con' in the name Originally by: Minerva Vulcan Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 24/12/2007 03:06:47 Our 1% transaction fee will be more than enough from active trading to cover interest. What's 1% of 0 again? best posts right there. ________________________________________
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.25 00:43:00 - [44] Join NUEX channel to get ventrilo information. All serious inquiries must be made through the ventrilo server. Thank you. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.25 00:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Ufl Join NUEX channel to get ventrilo information. All serious inquiries must be made through the ventrilo server. Thank you. I think this means our entertainment is gone. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.25 02:04:00 - [46] he wont answer this simple question why would i send 10 billion isk to him if i need 10 billion isk for an ipo? Trashed sig, Shark was here
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.25 02:12:00 - [47] Originally by: Ufl Join NUEX channel to get ventrilo information. All serious inquiries must be made through the ventrilo server. Thank you. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.25 02:30:00 - [48] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ufl Join NUEX channel to get ventrilo information. All serious inquiries must be made through the ventrilo server. Thank you. thats the type of dancing he did with his alt when we had a discussion -I dont care what they expect- -theres no time to talk on a channel when you have 2 screens, 2 chars, 7 channels- Trashed sig, Shark was here
Caliwyrm O'Libr Red Eye .Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.25 02:30:00 - [49] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ufl Join NUEX channel to get ventrilo information. All serious inquiries must be made through the ventrilo server. Thank you. Why don't you make ANOTHER thread about it? ======= Talk is cheap because supply always outweighs demand..
Ruddger Minmatar Gladiators of Rage	Posted - 2007.12.25 03:29:00 - [50] Questions will be answered in the forums. Only serious questions will be answered via email. Information will only be available via Nucon's private forum. Questions will be answered via telephone. (By the way we still have yet to hear from your genius programmer or your ex-marine) Questions will only be answered via our private Vent server. It must be terribly convent switching modes of communication every time someone asks you a question. But for the sake of the rest of us why don't you pick ONE way to to provide our weekly doses of ad hominem, rhetoric, and evasive double speak.
Night Crow	Posted - 2007.12.25 04:46:00 - [51] I said I would be interested in put my corp up in his web only if i have my assets in 3rd party under lockdown which are BPOs so I can make money on them. For some reason he said no I Dont know why he said that because he told me the assets be idle and will not be use. Two thing wrong with his corp 1 No interest on assets 2 Maybe Scam 3 If is plans dont work he unwilling to change If he wants corps to join he need to get thier trust So he needs to go that extra mile Instead of him keeping assets why not have 3rd Party doing it One of those way is having BPOs in Research Corps like Ricdic corp I would join tomorrow if he decide to take that option up
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.25 06:13:00 - [52] Originally by: Night Crow One of those way is having BPOs in Research Corps like Ricdic corp I would join tomorrow if he decide to take that option up Yeh Nightcrow I do allow this capability for people locking goods down within C-R-A so they are secured by myself/C-R-A shareholders but able to be utilised by yourself. For production I have a new production chain being designed to basically allow the same thing but with production. The difference being that my character handles your production for you. Basically the same as what BMBE provide on their secured loans. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.25 11:31:00 - [53] Edited by: Balogh on 25/12/2007 11:31:43 Originally by: Ufl Join NUEX channel to get ventrilo information. All serious inquiries must be made through the ventrilo server. Thank you. In other words, don't just use the service, you must jump through hoops to use it. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
HippoKing Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.25 17:10:00 - [54] Veldspar standard
Assens Letta Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.12.25 18:20:00 - [55] Originally by: Ufl Join NUEX channel to get ventrilo information. All serious inquiries must be made through the ventrilo server. Thank you. Are you sugesting that the enquires made thru this mean (the forum) are not serious ? what does it say about the announcements that are made here (including your own) ? the moment you make a post publicitating a new service shouldnt you be willing to answer the questions that are made in that post ?
Prokonsul Piotrus Minmatar Astral Light of Nature	Posted - 2007.12.25 22:47:00 - [56] Originally by: Treelox Originally by: twisted genius Looks like a scam, talks like a scam, acts like a scam, spams Jita like a scam, unsecured like a scam, uses alts like a scam, avoids questions like a scam. Its a scam. that is almost sig worthy :) LOL, I love it :D Seriously, I like the idea of veldaspar-gold standard, and the project does offer interesting security (assuming we can trust the people running it), but if it requires the same amount of money that would be raised in the offering it seems to defeat the purpose of IPOs :) -- One day, we will return to the planets... please, CCP? :) EVE-Wiki - share your knowledge in one place.
SencneS Amarr Balsarferskratchin Inc Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.12.26 04:49:00 - [57] Again... oh dude..... As much as I encourage new business and even competition, you're going about it the wrong way. You're first attempt failed, and suffered from the biggest flamings, then you start up this. If you are serious about anything you're doing you would stop right where you are right now and seek help from people willing to give it. YOU need to do the work to find these people, no one is going to step forth and take you under their wing. Amarr for Life
Trilori Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs	Posted - 2007.12.26 05:34:00 - [58] I agree, this could have worked with some other way of going about it. But he had to do it this way, so much for even keeping an IPO interest he lost.

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