Originally by: Raelyk

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I've been thinking about finishing up the training for an Arazu, but with the recent patch I've only heard complaining about how broken they are when compared to the other recons.

So, long story short -- is it still worth while to fly one of these ships?

Thanks.

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Originally by: Ajenia

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Thank you for bringing some sense here.

Arazu is a stealthy ship, like all force recons.

Want to fight properly, grab a Lachesis.

Add more recons of other races to compliment it.

Lach + Hug = Nasty

Lach + Hug + Rook + Curse = A good small, fast, flexible gang.

While it's true that they probably do need to be looked at a bit, and adjusted, it's the compliment of each recon (and dammit use combat recons if you're going to face difficult fights) that makes them what they are.

Rapiers often setup with damp tanks prior, too. I hated my rapier then even, and would much rather be in a Huginn if I'm going to face solid pilots.

Wanna cyno someone, grab your cloak ship. Want to fight. Use a combat recon and compliment it with gang mates.

No one said you need to run an all damp setup either. Lach's can gate camp under fire, with a plate tank, while being remote repped, and scram for the gang. I suppose everyone pulls that off in ceptors though.

Or why not try a passive shield, nano tank, where you're job is scramming and surviving, and not trying to use all bonuses at once... My huginn never used a target painter...

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Originally by: General Coochie

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Its fun when ppl start suggesting that a ship should be used in some weird obscure very situational role to be effective. Then you know for sure that the ship has become degraded to something less and ppl cling onto it solely for nostalgic reasons or argue for it simply for the sake of it. "nano tank" "passive tank". Have you done this yourself?
Give some solid arguments and suggestions how this ship can be more efficient then another ship, that can take the same role, and I gladly listen. Because I trained for em and would love to use them with the same efficiency and impact other recon pilots have in a gang. But don't come here theory crafting or EFTin and tell me and other gallente recon pilots what our ship can do.

I agree that a lach or arazu with rapier could be very efficient together. The rapiers good on its own though gang or solo, the lach isn't. The lachesis can't nano and that's what makes it subpar to the recons that can. (note that the falcon or rook doesn't need to nano while the lach and arazu does to keep range)

Overall many other ships are more desirable in any role, be it ewar or tackling. The bonus on the specialized damp ships are not good enough to warrant use of these ships except in some rare cases.

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Originally by: General Coochie

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the helios is better and you cant deny that.

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Originally by: MrTripps

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Originally by: General Coochie

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the helios is better and you cant deny that.

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Sure you can. A helios scans faster, but it can't scram from over 40km, damp a long range ship to uselessness, or field at least a minimal weapons system (including drones).

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Originally by: Pinky Denmark

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DAMPEN the lock range of 1-2 hostile ships to almost nothing

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Originally by: Alyth

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These ships are not meant to be used solo and as such when used like that, suck.

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Originally by: General Coochie

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Originally by: Dromidas Shadowmoon

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Nanoships use speed to tank, if you trash their lock range then you can web them. Once they're webbed they die, even to a recon.

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So I damp a vagabond to 20km lock range I move 1500-2000 ms. He moves 5000ms then what do you suggest I do?

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Originally by: Ariel Dawn

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Not as useful at close range engagements due to the script introductions, but an Arazu is more than capable of shutting down long range ships. If your enemy favors sniping tactics, one Arazu can stop a decent number of them alone which is very helpful for a gang that would otherwise be taking fire from them.

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Originally by: Ariel Dawn

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Not as useful at close range engagements due to the script introductions, but an Arazu is more than capable of shutting down long range ships. If your enemy favors sniping tactics, one Arazu can stop a decent number of them alone which is very helpful for a gang that would otherwise be taking fire from them.

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Originally by: Hannobaal

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Originally by: Ariel Dawn

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Not as useful at close range engagements due to the script introductions, but an Arazu is more than capable of shutting down long range ships. If your enemy favors sniping tactics, one Arazu can stop a decent number of them alone which is very helpful for a gang that would otherwise be taking fire from them.

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Why use a ship that can only do this from 60 something km range or less when you can have a ship that can do about the same and better from 200 km range?

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