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Lord Meriak
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:20:00 -
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dam slow  |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
282
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:20:00 -
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eveonline.com isn't meant for the current players. That's for the new guys. community.eveonline.com is what current players aught to use.
I like it.
If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention. |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
282
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:21:00 -
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Razin wrote:And still no links to any of that from the forums page. Genius.
('cept for going through the old forum archive)
This is true. Once you're in "EVE GATE" you're stuck. That's pretty ghey.
If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention. |
Wacktopia
Noir.
163
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:22:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:PS looks like some fail first person mmorpg shooter landing page, way to loose your thing eve
What? How does the massive picture of space with Tornados flying about a planet look like a FPS?
The new landing page is good - it's a 100 times better than the old 90's style page with loads of text and one simple flash thing at the top.
Remember the new page is the first thing new players will see and should be aimed that them.
I do have one gripe that other people share it seems; EVE-Gate needs to have some kind of menu system to get back to the other websites (Community etc).
Apparently we're getting censored now. |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
235
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:24:00 -
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Famble wrote:Razin wrote:And still no links to any of that from the forums page. Genius.
('cept for going through the old forum archive) This is true. Once you're in "EVE GATE" you're stuck. That's pretty ghey.
Just realized you can also go through the "Dev Blogs" link in the top nav bar. Still, I guess direct links to stuff like the home page, or account management, or bug reporting, etc. is somehow illegal in Iceland? |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
111
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:26:00 -
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Can i have old pages back.
I know that these might look better for new customers, but usability sucks badly.
terrible.
CCP really tries to get rid of me with their awesome ideas.
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
144
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:40:00 -
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CCP powers that be.
Please.
Identify who dreamed up the new front end to the web site.
Fire them, today.
Identify who approved this mess.
Fire them, today. |
Zag'mar Jurkar
QC Steel Industries
9
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Posted - 2012.02.07 17:12:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:Before:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load devblog page
Now:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load community.eveonline.com
3. load devblog page
It is not about hating the change. It is about pushing bling over usability. This is just as bad design as the new neocom, where simple and working functionality and features were removed to make it look more pretty and have more "cool" menus.
Neither is working well any more.
...and as I know that some will soonTM say "bookmark to community.eveonline.com and live with it" I have to ask question - should I bookmark to support. account management and forums as well? Like to have eve-online compatible browser configuration you would need 8 bookmarks in links bar.... right?
Front page of websites should tie the site together, not provide only some graphical presentation for possible new customer with few $ to spare. You could have some nice attractive advertisement for them to click which would forward them to page like that.
Yes, you should have multiple bookmarks if you want quick access to things.
Just right click at the top, add a folder named EVE and put EVE Bookmarks in there, and enjoy ! |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
284
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Posted - 2012.02.07 17:27:00 -
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Razin wrote:Famble wrote:Razin wrote:And still no links to any of that from the forums page. Genius.
('cept for going through the old forum archive) This is true. Once you're in "EVE GATE" you're stuck. That's pretty ghey. Just realized you can also go through the "Dev Blogs" link in the top nav bar. Still, I guess direct links to stuff like the home page, or account management, or bug reporting, etc. is somehow illegal in Iceland?
Yea I noticed too shortly after I posted. You're probably right, Icelandic web law for sure.
If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention. |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
284
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Posted - 2012.02.07 17:29:00 -
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This just in. People hate change.
If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention. |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
162
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Posted - 2012.02.07 17:29:00 -
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Luba Cibre wrote:I've literally looked 5 minutes for the account management button. Not so cool.
same thing here i was like where the F! is the formus... took me 5 min to figure out its under the right hand side of the top corner all hidden away... could you move it to a main button next to all the NPE stuff pretty please... |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
194
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Posted - 2012.02.07 17:46:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Luba Cibre wrote:I've literally looked 5 minutes for the account management button. Not so cool. same thing here i was like where the F! is the formus... took me 5 min to figure out its under the right hand side of the top corner all hidden away... could you move it to a main button next to all the NPE stuff pretty please...
If they had put it there , you probably would have stared in the upper corner for 5 min instead demanding they would make a special place with a different color so it would stand out. Just saying ... |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
389
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Posted - 2012.02.07 17:48:00 -
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Chiming in here.....
I have to say that the forums, since I've been playing, have gone from good, to less good and now to worse.
The font looks like someone was scrapping the bottom of the barrel at some of the worst freeware font sites. CCP, if someone in your ranks "created" that font you should either get their eyes examined or re-assess their creativity. I have zero creative ability in graphics design and I could make something better than that. Seriously! It's horrible.
Also, the divergence of websites, while not a bad idea, could use better execution. If you want us to have different sites, great, do it! But, take a well proofed idea from most companies. Dot Com for potential customers. Dot Net for existing customers. God knows that "eve website" link looks like a 'feature' where the least used links are placed on most websites such as disclaimers and where companies like to bury actual contact information. It doesn't look like it's the place to put the most used links. Meh, what do I know of web design, nothing. But, I do know, as a user, that your web team is making life more difficult for its users.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
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Posted - 2012.02.07 17:48:00 -
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The front page is obviously not designed for people who play eve already. It's designed for new players. That's fine, but at least one of the buttons on that page should take actual players to content that we use. |
J Kunjeh
371
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:12:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:Before:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load devblog page
Now:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load community.eveonline.com
3. load devblog page
Hey there douchebag, try this:
1. Go to http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp
2. Bookmark
3. ???
4. Profit?
Some people are so damn lazy it's incredible...can't help themselves.
That said, great new website! Can't wait to see it evolve and improve.
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)"
(The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
390
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:16:00 -
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J Kunjeh wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:Before:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load devblog page
Now:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load community.eveonline.com
3. load devblog page
Hey there douchebag, try this: 1. Go to http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp2. Bookmark 3. ??? 4. Profit? Some people are so damn lazy it's incredible...can't help themselves. Oh, and PS, your name sucks balls...was that your D&D name back in the 70's? That said, great new website! Can't wait to see it evolve and improve.
CCP Web Team alt detected....
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
162
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:17:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Luba Cibre wrote:I've literally looked 5 minutes for the account management button. Not so cool. same thing here i was like where the F! is the formus... took me 5 min to figure out its under the right hand side of the top corner all hidden away... could you move it to a main button next to all the NPE stuff pretty please... If they had put it there , you probably would have stared in the upper corner for 5 min instead demanding they would make a special place with a different color so it would stand out. Just saying ...
LMAO soo true... guess its just i knew where sh*t was and now i have to refind everything...
I guess this is the bonus for us Vets eh? to make the game interesting again... |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
901
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:18:00 -
[48] - Quote
J Kunjeh wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:Before:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load devblog page
Now:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load community.eveonline.com
3. load devblog page
Hey there douchebag, try this: 1. Go to http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp2. Bookmark 3. ??? 4. Profit? Some people are so damn lazy it's incredible...can't help themselves. Oh, and PS, your name sucks balls...was that your D&D name back in the 70's? That said, great new website! Can't wait to see it evolve and improve.
Now go back to read the bottom part of my post which you just clipped from quote. Then you realize that it is too late to fix the "creative" brain fart you just poasted.
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Gordon Fell
Acura Tech
1
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:25:00 -
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Sigh, if this is what they come up with usability-wise, the client UI is pretty much doomed. Or actually it's users are. |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
901
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:29:00 -
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Zag'mar Jurkar wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:Before:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load devblog page
Now:
1. load eveonline.com
2. load community.eveonline.com
3. load devblog page
It is not about hating the change. It is about pushing bling over usability. This is just as bad design as the new neocom, where simple and working functionality and features were removed to make it look more pretty and have more "cool" menus.
Neither is working well any more.
...and as I know that some will soonTM say "bookmark to community.eveonline.com and live with it" I have to ask question - should I bookmark to support. account management and forums as well? Like to have eve-online compatible browser configuration you would need 8 bookmarks in links bar.... right?
Front page of websites should tie the site together, not provide only some graphical presentation for possible new customer with few $ to spare. You could have some nice attractive advertisement for them to click which would forward them to page like that. Yes, you should have multiple bookmarks if you want quick access to things. Just right click at the top, add a folder named EVE and put EVE Bookmarks in there, and enjoy !
Aye... sounds like a good idea. It wasn't broken, they fixed it and now I have to customize it with time to gain some of the usability back that I had before. However even after customizing to the max, it still won't be as good. Another dejavu from the famous neocom.
If website which needs folder full of bookmarks is 2012 style, so be it... Thankfully customers are always wrong and CCP always thinks before doing something stupid.
(but yes - this suggestion you made seems to be only valid way to make it somewhat work atm - thanks for that)
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Berke Negri
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:16:00 -
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you sperglords are overlooking the real issue with the new website:
rifters are not included in the spaceships in eve list |
FeralShadow
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe
R.E.P.O.
50
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:25:00 -
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As a bittervet I like it a lot. I may never use it again after today, but I can see the value for new players. |
Sarpadeon
Rebirth Industries
1
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:32:00 -
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the new site is a flash based abomination, adding at least 1 click or hover-over for everything.
even overlooking the massive gaping wound to security that flash is the web page now takes something like 4x the resources to load for no real functionality improvement, and loads a bunch of non-CCP scripts in the background for amazon, facebook, twitter, google, and youtube.
seriously why the hell is amazon running a script on the main page? it went from 1 script set(CCP's eveonline.com) to EIGHT. |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
410
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:38:00 -
[54] - Quote
Sarpadeon wrote:the new site is a flash based abomination, adding at least 1 click or hover-over for everything.
even overlooking the massive gaping wound to security that flash is the web page now takes something like 4x the resources to load for no real functionality improvement, and loads a bunch of non-CCP scripts in the background for amazon, facebook, twitter, google, and youtube.
seriously why the hell is amazon running a script on the main page? it went from 1 script set(CCP's eveonline.com) to EIGHT.
Lol, dude its HTML 5 no flash at all since flash is dead.
Its 11 java scripts that load externally and 11 images. Because ccs is not on top of the file before other stuff loads, the css and embedded in css images loading takes therefor time.
You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here.-á(CCP Nullarbor) |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
906
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:42:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Sarpadeon wrote:the new site is a flash based abomination, adding at least 1 click or hover-over for everything.
even overlooking the massive gaping wound to security that flash is the web page now takes something like 4x the resources to load for no real functionality improvement, and loads a bunch of non-CCP scripts in the background for amazon, facebook, twitter, google, and youtube.
seriously why the hell is amazon running a script on the main page? it went from 1 script set(CCP's eveonline.com) to EIGHT. Lol, dude its HTML 5 no flash at all since flash is dead.
Yea anyways he has a point there... these are the elements eveonline.com is loading:
http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.7.1/jquery.min.js
http://apis.google.com/js/plusone.js
http://connect.facebook.net/en_US/all.js#xfbml=1
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/hub.1326407570.html
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/images/btn.c5bcc9de085c51bf889f6a8f33128be2.png
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/images/t.gif?_=1328643599480&_version=2&count=none&enableNewSizing=false&id=twitter-widget-0&lang=en&original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eveonline.com%2F&related=ccpgames&size=m&text=EVE%20Online%20is%20a%20Massive%20Multiplayer%20Online%20Roleplaying%20Space%20Game%20-%20EVE%20Online&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHrrVDV_NsNo&via=eveonline&type=share&twttr_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eveonline.com%2F&twttr_widget=1&twttr_li=0&twttr_pid=v1%3A1325785783334495947014
http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/tweet_button.1326407570.html#_=1328643599480&_version=2&count=none&enableNewSizing=false&id=twitter-widget-0&lang=en&original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eveonline.com%2F&related=ccpgames&size=m&text=EVE%20Online%20is%20a%20Massive%20Multiplayer%20Online%20Roleplaying%20Space%20Game%20-%20EVE%20Online&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHrrVDV_NsNo&via=eveonline
http://s3.amazonaws.com/searchdiscovery-satellite-production/989cd5ae2a7d68ee72ae2217be6c163bba2377a8/satelliteLib-611349f4b5336c8f1030a2597d7e1f99cd493874.js
http://s3.amazonaws.com/searchdiscovery-satellite-production/satellite.js
http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v1/y7/r/ql9vukDCc4R.p...
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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
410
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:46:00 -
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Msgerbs
Imperial Assualt Guild
4
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:46:00 -
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I have no problem with adding fancy graphics and new player information dropdowns... But now I have to go to a different website just to get what I want. What was wrong with having a menu bar down the side of the page showing all the different pages? I'm all for making it more new-player friendly, but maybe it EXCLUSIVELY new-player oriented is a terrible move. The website wasn't what got me into EVE, and personally I'm not sure I want to fly with somebody who joined EVE because there were fancy pictures on the front page. The Sandbox section also implies that you're locked into a certain character type, or at least it doesn't specifically say otherwise. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
128
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:22:00 -
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Fine, new BMs made now i found everything i use.
panic over, go back to tending your mining fields |
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