Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Bellator Militaris
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 11:19:00 -
[1]
I have gotten this ship and would like to do lvl 4 missions, solo. Can you give me some pointers on a passive tank? About 80% of my Gunnery and Eng skills are at lvl 4 or better. Yes, and I already know the Raven is the best ship for lvl 4 missions. But I went the way of Amarr. Thanks to all. Bellator
|
Fon Revedhort
Aeria Gloris Inc United Legion
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 11:28:00 -
[2]
Passive tank means no repping? Nice...
Give me a shout if you invent something decent. ---
|
Zaqar
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 11:29:00 -
[3]
Originally by: Bellator Militaris passive tank
hm, not sure what you mean by this. Passive armour tank = plates but no repairer - certainly not advisable for missioning unless you have a logistics ship to support you.
|
goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 11:37:00 -
[4]
Edited by: goodby4u on 29/12/2007 11:41:31 highs:6x med beam 1x nos. mids:1x large shield ext 1x em hardener 1x invul. lows:7x shield power relays. 2x shield purgers.
tankable405 dps
And if you can obtain t2 SPRs and t2 rigs it will tank... 659 dps or 725 with gang skills maxed Signature removed. Contains no Eve content. Navigator ([email protected]) |
Bellator Militaris
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 11:37:00 -
[5]
No just resists, it will have a repper.
|
RandomNewbieHelper
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 11:38:00 -
[6]
I run lvl4 missions for the Amarr Navy (mostly Sansha and Bloods missions) in this setup.
High: 6x Heavy Beam Laser 1x Heavy Missile Launcher
Med: 1x Fleeting web 2x Cap Recharger
Low: 1x MAR 1x Thermic Hardener 1x EM Hardener 2x EANM 1x CPR 1x Heat Sink
Rigs: 2x Aux Nano Pump
Drones: 5x Hobgoblin
|
Bellator Militaris
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 11:45:00 -
[7]
Great setup thanks Newbie for the help.
|
Riho
Northen Breeze
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 12:04:00 -
[8]
i prefer 6 beams + 3 hs :)
4 slot tank is enough
repper, ean, 2x hardeners ---------------------------------- Seems that there's a new game that seems to be very popular whit whiners these days. Its called EFT Online.
dont listen those people.. as they dont have a clue |
Kerdrak
3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 14:35:00 -
[9]
As I understand, armor passive tank is either buffer tank (pvp) or repper 24/7 not wasting your cap (pve). ________________________________________
|
Malagar
Imperial Shipment
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 15:25:00 -
[10]
currently i use an abbadon for missions, but i can use the absolution would i be better off with that? would it be quicker at completing missions than my abbadon?
|
|
Acoco Osiris
Gallente
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 15:47:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Malagar currently i use an abbadon for missions, but i can use the absolution would i be better off with that? would it be quicker at completing missions than my abbadon?
Probably not. Absolution is just a lot sexier.
As to a passive armor tank, that would just be plain buffer-plates plus resists. The instant you add a repper, it's active. The term to describe 24/7 active armor tanks is "perma-run". ------------------- I nerfed my own sig To amuse you, here is my Retriever ever since its first Trinity deployment. RIP. * * * * ** * * * ** * * * * * *** * ** ** |
BAteh
Taggart Transdimensional Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.12.29 23:20:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Acoco Osiris
Originally by: Malagar currently i use an abbadon for missions, but i can use the absolution would i be better off with that? would it be quicker at completing missions than my abbadon?
Probably not. Absolution is just a lot sexier.
As to a passive armor tank, that would just be plain buffer-plates plus resists. The instant you add a repper, it's active. The term to describe 24/7 active armor tanks is "perma-run".
"probably"... are you guessing? you guessed wrong. An active tanked Absol (with resists up to 90/92) can breeze through lvl4's if you fit a T2 AB for maneuverability and use beams to hold optimal distance.
|
Verton
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 20:24:00 -
[13]
Originally by: BAteh
"probably"... are you guessing? you guessed wrong. An active tanked Absol (with resists up to 90/92) can breeze through lvl4's if you fit a T2 AB for maneuverability and use beams to hold optimal distance.
Just asking because I'm no expert on this...
1) Does the Absolution do more DPS than the Abaddon?
2) Does the Absolution tank better than the Abaddon?
Thx, /*Verton*/
|
Kurenub
Amarr Going Limp
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 20:35:00 -
[14]
Originally by: RandomNewbieHelper I run lvl4 missions for the Amarr Navy (mostly Sansha and Bloods missions) in this setup.
High: 6x Heavy Beam Laser 1x Heavy Missile Launcher
Med: 1x Fleeting web 2x Cap Recharger
Low: 1x MAR 1x Thermic Hardener 1x EM Hardener 2x EANM 1x CPR 1x Heat Sink
Rigs: 2x Aux Nano Pump
Drones: 5x Hobgoblin
If I was one of your parents I would be ashamed of that complete afterbirth of a setup.
|
7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 20:38:00 -
[15]
Yeah you'll enjoy lvl 4's in the abso, the resists on absolution and damnation make for some of the best tankage in game, especially when faction fit.
the drawbacks are less damage.
allthough t2 + bs V is better for lvl 4's, but if you are command ship specced then you can breeze through it in the abso, albeit a bit slower.
|
Verton
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 20:49:00 -
[16]
Originally by: 7shining7one7
allthough t2 + bs V is better for lvl 4's, but if you are command ship specced then you can breeze through it in the abso, albeit a bit slower.
Actually I have an Absolution right now, but I was considering getting an Abaddon. TBH, I'm looking for the most DPS in a Level 4 mission running ship, because I'm not going to have to much time for Eve in the near future (triplets on the way! Eve gets pwnt!).
Or should I just skip the Abaddon and got the "Easy-button", Raven?
/*Verton*/
|
7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:02:00 -
[17]
Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 30/12/2007 21:05:59
Originally by: Verton
Originally by: 7shining7one7
allthough t2 + bs V is better for lvl 4's, but if you are command ship specced then you can breeze through it in the abso, albeit a bit slower.
Actually I have an Absolution right now, but I was considering getting an Abaddon. TBH, I'm looking for the most DPS in a Level 4 mission running ship, because I'm not going to have to much time for Eve in the near future (triplets on the way! Eve gets pwnt!).
Or should I just skip the Abaddon and got the "Easy-button", Raven?
/*Verton*/
first of all congrats m8
nah if you got abso allready just do it with that, i was just pointing out that an abaddon with damage rigs and t2 mega beams will pop those bs's very fast, bs's tend to be superior in lvl 4's if you want to blitz them, since you'll reduce the dps fast and not need to tank that much.
so, go with the abso, it'll be quite fine, if your not far off in skilling for a bs V full t2 abaddon, then go for it, otherwise, don't bother.
happy new year
|
Verton
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:12:00 -
[18]
Edited by: Verton on 30/12/2007 21:13:26 Thanks. I'm going to miss my hours of Eve every week.
I've been reading about the Raven and its "uber" mission running abilities and thinking about using a Raven for L4's instead of the Abaddon.
My main goal is being able to do the L4 missions quickly.
/*Verton*/
|
7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:14:00 -
[19]
Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 30/12/2007 21:15:31
Originally by: Verton
Thanks. I'm going to miss my hours of Eve every week.
I've been reading about the Raven and its "uber" mission running abilities and thinking about using a Raven for L4's instead of the Abaddon.
/*Verton*/
I would really suggest another char for that instead of wrecking your excellent amarr char progress with cross skilling for raven. you'll basically start from scratch with shield tanking and missiles training cruise and torps etc. bad idea.. better to max out the abaddon if you do want to spec bs V t2 for lvl 4's.
|
Verton
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:25:00 -
[20]
Originally by: 7shining7one7
I would really suggest another char for that instead of wrecking your excellent amarr char progress with cross skilling for raven. you'll basically start from scratch with shield tanking and missiles training cruise and torps etc. bad idea.. better to max out the abaddon if you do want to spec bs V t2 for lvl 4's.
Interestingly enough... I have 3 mil SP's in missiles and almost that in Engineering (shields), so it's not really that big a step for me. I already do level 4's in a Drake... it's just painfully slow. hehe
/*Verton*/
|
|
EvilPhog
Amarr Dark-Rising
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 21:25:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Kurenub If I was one of your parents I would be ashamed of that complete afterbirth of a setup.
We're awaiting our enlightenment.
|
Helen
Eve Innovative Technologies
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 22:04:00 -
[22]
Get Abaddon for cheap gank and tank on Amarr missions.
DO NOT GET Raven, if you got good Amarr skills stick with Amarr. You can tank fine in an Abaddon and do more dps than a crappy Raven. Seriously Abaddon > Raven.
Top Tip - Don't eat yellow snow |
Gadawan
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 23:10:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Helen Get Abaddon for cheap gank and tank on Amarr missions.
DO NOT GET Raven, if you got good Amarr skills stick with Amarr. You can tank fine in an Abaddon and do more dps than a crappy Raven. Seriously Abaddon > Raven.
Just make sure your agent gives you missions vs enemies that can be killed with EM/therm and Abaddon is great for lvl 4's. I mostly just refuse the ocasional Guristas/Angel mission from my agent.
|
Verton
|
Posted - 2007.12.30 23:48:00 -
[24]
I'm actually an old timer... just looking for something new. :) I've avoided the Raven an Drake because all I ever did was PvP in 0.0. Now that I've had to retire from 0.0 I'm giving missions a try.
I just installed EFT, so now I'm comparing the DPS and "tankability" of several ships. I have two accounts, and I usually bring the Absolution and the Raven (alt char) in simultaneously, but I'll soon be down to one account at a time.
/*Verton*/
|
Helen
Eve Innovative Technologies
|
Posted - 2007.12.31 00:03:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Gadawan
Originally by: Helen Get Abaddon for cheap gank and tank on Amarr missions.
DO NOT GET Raven, if you got good Amarr skills stick with Amarr. You can tank fine in an Abaddon and do more dps than a crappy Raven. Seriously Abaddon > Raven.
Just make sure your agent gives you missions vs enemies that can be killed with EM/therm and Abaddon is great for lvl 4's. I mostly just refuse the ocasional Guristas/Angel mission from my agent.
Thats what I said. Here let me bold it for you.
Originally by: Helen Get Abaddon for cheap gank and tank on Amarr missions.
Top Tip - Don't eat yellow snow |
Riho
Northen Breeze
|
Posted - 2007.12.31 00:35:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Kurenub
Originally by: RandomNewbieHelper I run lvl4 missions for the Amarr Navy (mostly Sansha and Bloods missions) in this setup.
High: 6x Heavy Beam Laser 1x Heavy Missile Launcher
Med: 1x Fleeting web 2x Cap Recharger
Low: 1x MAR 1x Thermic Hardener 1x EM Hardener 2x EANM 1x CPR 1x Heat Sink
Rigs: 2x Aux Nano Pump
Drones: 5x Hobgoblin
If I was one of your parents I would be ashamed of that complete afterbirth of a setup.
its not a bad fit... just way too much tank and too few dmg mods :P ---------------------------------- Seems that there's a new game that seems to be very popular whit whiners these days. Its called EFT Online.
dont listen those people.. as they dont have a clue |
Vixeon
Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition
|
Posted - 2007.12.31 03:05:00 -
[27]
Abso
6 Heavy Beams, 1 Drone link thing
AB, 2 Cap Recharger
MAR 3-4 Passive Corpums 2-3 TS Heat sink
Abaddon
8 Mega Pulse
2-3 Cap Rechargers 1-2 Tracking comps
LAR 2-3 Hardners 2-3 Heatsinks Sometimes and Eanm or DCU 3 x ccc Abaddon does more DPS but doesnt hit frigs or cruisers so well, its better for BS heavy missions. Abso rocks for everything else and tanks way better.
|
Verton
|
Posted - 2007.12.31 04:46:00 -
[28]
What rigs did you put on the Absolution and the Abaddon? I currently have a CCC and an ANP on my Absolution.
The only mod I made to the above setup is that I have a Tracking Computer in a mid slot with a script loaded. (Possibly not needed?) Most of my gunnery skills related to hitting targets are at level 5. In the lows, I had Cap Recharger II's installed instead of Heat Sinks... but I have corrected that.
/*Verton*/
|
Vixeon
Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition
|
Posted - 2007.12.31 06:25:00 -
[29]
I use a damage rig and a CCC on the Abso and 3 x CCC on the Abaddon
Aux pump and a CCC would also work on the Abso if you want more tank, Abaddon HAS to have 3 x CCC imo.
|
Audemed
Innocence Proves Nothing
|
Posted - 2007.12.31 08:10:00 -
[30]
TBH i've compared abso and abba setups....and the abba just wins every time...at everything. Sure, the abso might hit the smaller targets easier, but unless you have T2 med beams and want to use aurora, the abso just can't even get close to competing to a mega beam abaddon. Even at point blank range, the abaddon does more damage than the abso...AND tanks better... ------ PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login.
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |