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Lucius Arcturus
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
64
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Posted - 2012.02.08 05:35:00 -
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I'm Lucius Arcturus, a capitalist, wormhole resident, and POS manager. I would like your support in gaining a seat on this year's CSM.
I joined Taggart Transdimensional in the fall of 2010. It is an old, active corp, and was founded by objectivists, adherents of author Ayn Rand's philosophy of free market capitalism and rational self-interest. In February 2011 I was promoted to CEO of Taggart and have held the position since then.
Like many Taggart pilots, I live in a wormhole. Wormholes are a great place to play EVE. While large corporations do exist out here, and you will find the occasional blob, the small gang is king. The experiences that wormholes offer are not exclusive to their residents - a wormhole could open up anywhere at any time, giving k-space pilots the opportunity to enter and fly in unknown space.
It is precisely for this unique environment that I wish to sit on the CSM. Unknown space is an area of EVE that is working pretty well, but that does not mean that WH pilots shouldn't have representation on the CSM. In addition, there are many aspects of WH life that also affect lots of other pilots in New Eden, such as the POS. Here are some specific issues I'd like to work on should I be elected:
The big issues: - Continuing to voice my support for FiS (Flying in Space) content over WiS (Walking in Station) content. FiS is the reason why many people play EVE and is of paramount importance to WH pilots especially, as many of us do not dock on a regular basis. - Opposing any kind of "WH stabilizing mechanic", like the type mentioned in the recent CSM minutes. It is my opinion that the game mechanics regarding WH mass are excellent and CCP does not need to fix what isn't broken. - POS mechanics. Fuelblocks are a step in the right direction, but there are many more steps along that path. Smarter security, more accessibility. - Corporate roles. CEOs/directors should be able to separate roles by control tower. Even being able to set a pilot's home base to a specific control tower, as we can currently do with stations/offices, would be a big help.
The less big issues: - Nagging POS array complaints...being able to open containers inside arrays, repackaging inside arrays, renaming all arrays, get rid of the lag when opening arrays, etc. - Allowing alliance access to arrays. - Permitting the anchoring of cap ship maintenance arrays (SMAs) inside WHs. - Basic scanning fixes (probe bubbles too sticky, being able to move all probes up and down on the vertical plane with 1 click, etc.) - Static signature IDs. - Swapping subs on/assembling t3s in space. - Sleeper sites randomize waves.
Wishlist/ideas: - Dedicated gas harvesting ship - The modular POS (dead horse, etc.) - Repair array - T3 frigs - Clone jumping within the same WH system (not inside or outside of the system) - Being able to reclaim abandoned control towers in w-space
All of these concepts have been proposed over the years, and they should continue to be proposed (the third list is more of a collection of ideas that I have considered but am not as serious about as the first two). As you can see, most of them affect not just WH pilots, but also anyone who has activities in common with WH pilots - POS management, corporate roles, scanning, etc.
If you would like to see someone on the CSM that has WHs and WH-related activities in mind, vote for me on March 7th!
Taggart Website Taggart Blog Taggart WH Sales |

Lucius Arcturus
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
64
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Posted - 2012.02.08 05:42:00 -
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Reserved. Taggart Website Taggart Blog Taggart WH Sales |

Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
52
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:13:00 -
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As a w-space pilot, I wonder why I should vote for you, instead of two-step, who's announced he will run again this year ?
I appreciate what you are trying to do, but I would rather not see multiple wormhole candidates on the ballot because this would cause our votes to get split up and none of the w-space guys might make it in.
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Lucius Arcturus
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
80
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:31:00 -
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Ya Huei wrote:As a w-space pilot, I wonder why I should vote for you, instead of two-step, who's announced he will run again this year ?
I appreciate what you are trying to do, but I would rather not see multiple wormhole candidates on the ballot because this would cause our votes to get split up and none of the w-space guys might make it in.
Many of the issues I'm interested in are not salient only to w-pilots. The POS, corporate roles, and scanning issues, for instance, while of great importance to most w-space pilots, also apply to many other pilots in New Eden who engage in those activities. Also, I would love to see more than one w-space pilot on the CSM; it's just a matter of galvanizing the WH community and all others who share our activities. Taggart Website Taggart Blog Taggart WH Sales |

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
298
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:36:00 -
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Wow, Taggart Transdimensional... that is a name I have not heard in a long time. Amazed that the corporation is still around.
I am cautious about giving you support until I have seen the shape of your hat. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |

Reeval
the wreking crew
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:59:00 -
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think the problem you will have is you will just dilute the wh votes and instead of getting 2 wh peopel in you will end up with neither of you getting in (i really doubt wh votes woudl be anywhere near enough to get 2 peopel on the csm)
also the problem with the scanning applying to none wh people while correct wont land you many votes from them as they will probably be vorting for others (null sec residents might find a bonus from scanning but will probably block vote for what ever alliance they in) |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2957
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Posted - 2012.02.08 15:10:00 -
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objectivism is primarily advocated by terrible spergs
how do you maintain a belief in a system founded on 'rationality' given the many human cognitive flaws that ayn rand knew nothing about
how do you reconcile your loathing of faith and mysticism with a literally mystical belief in the idea of pure human reason
thanks for making objectivism central to your candidacy! The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
23
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:07:00 -
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Here's to freedom and capitalism! 
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2980
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:13:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:Here's to freedom and capitalism! 
here's to contradictions in terms, hip hip hooray~ The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Leontyne Gaterau
The Scope Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:19:00 -
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I would vote for a WH candidate who didn't espouse a moral philosophy I associate with slightly above average intelligence 13 year olds. |
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Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD
40
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:22:00 -
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Reeval wrote:think the problem you will have is you will just dilute the wh votes and instead of getting 2 wh peopel in you will end up with neither of you getting in (i really doubt wh votes woudl be anywhere near enough to get 2 peopel on the csm)
basically this is my concern. we'll see what twosteps has to say though
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
603
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:51:00 -
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Reeval wrote:think the problem you will have is you will just dilute the wh votes and instead of getting 2 wh peopel in you will end up with neither of you getting in (i really doubt wh votes woudl be anywhere near enough to get 2 peopel on the csm)
Seeing as how I just barely made it in the last election, I think this is true. I wish Lucius had contacted me before running, but it is a little late for that. CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog What does CSM 6 do? |

DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
209
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:26:00 -
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So your platform is literally the most generic thing you could have possibly come up with? |

Rocketman2
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
11
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:35:00 -
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Will DHD run for CSM? |

Doris Dents
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:44:00 -
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OP are you a fat spergin virgin? I ask because every Ayn Rand fan I know IRL is a fat spergin virgin and to successfully represent your constituents you have to travel to Iceland, hang out drinking and be bros with the CCP crew. Being an awkward loveshy is incompatible with this role. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1507
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:59:00 -
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If you get on the CSM will that get you to stop spamming the recruitment channel? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Polyam Ory
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 00:43:00 -
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I support Lucius Arcturus for CSM. Glad to see someone as level-headed and passionate about the game as he is toss his hat in the ring. |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
666
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:24:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:objectivism is primarily advocated by terrible spergs
how do you maintain a belief in a system founded on 'rationality' given the many human cognitive flaws that ayn rand knew nothing about
how do you reconcile your loathing of faith and mysticism with a literally mystical belief in the idea of pure human reason
thanks for making objectivism central to your candidacy!
How could you possibly disagree with a system described in a book where several dozen people could hide in a valley in Colorado causing everyone else in the world forget how anything works and then those same "special" people in Colorado create a society where something as simple as lending your car to a friend is forbidden and requires the immediate exchange of gold to happen?
I love Atlas Shrugged for what it is, an interesting idea taken to an impossible extreme, but as a practical guide? Not so much. The most common thing you will find about the fervent fans of the book (and the concept) is they all believe they would be among the "special people" in New Colorado! 
That said, I've found the Taggart guys to all be good folks and I wish this candate luck in the CSM 7 elections!
Issler
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:24:00 -
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Two step wrote:Reeval wrote:think the problem you will have is you will just dilute the wh votes and instead of getting 2 wh peopel in you will end up with neither of you getting in (i really doubt wh votes woudl be anywhere near enough to get 2 peopel on the csm)
Seeing as how I just barely made it in the last election, I think this is true. I wish Lucius had contacted me before running, but it is a little late for that. that wouldn't be very randian of him, to altruistically offer you free information
perhaps you should have offered to pay for it |

Petyr Baelich
Valar Morghulis. Get Off My Lawn
2
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Posted - 2012.02.09 03:18:00 -
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Jowen Datloran wrote:I am cautious about giving you support until I have seen the shape of your hat.
Hellgremlin stole that hat long ago, Jowen, but +1 for the reference. :) |
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Deathwing Malevolent
Energy Core 2 V.I.R.A.L.
1
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Posted - 2012.02.09 11:11:00 -
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+1
Have I voted for everyone now?
But seriously, POS/corp management needs a good fix and some useful suggestions here (not that anyone other than my enemies who regularly Eve Search me will ever read what I've just typed) |

Hedira
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 11:54:00 -
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Obviously, I'm a Taggart.
I've seen lots of criticism here about the books that LA likes to read. Some attacks on his age.
But I have yet to see a serious attack on the things he's suggesting.
I, Hedira, endorse Lucius as CSM7.
WH Corps: How is LA wrong? What are the better solutions? Who is offering them? Null corps: You're already thriving in null. How does what LA is proposing hinder you? Could you benefit from these changes? If not, what's stopping you? High Corps: How will these changes make your daily operations stutter? Why might his suggestions help you? Got better ideas? |

Doris Dents
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:20:00 -
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Hedira wrote: But I have yet to see a serious attack on the things he's suggesting.
If someone came here and posted "As the official NAMBLA candidate I'd like to buff level 4 missions" no one would be interested in discussing his ideas because:
a) that's some messed up **** b) why would you even bring that up in an election about spaceships I mean seriously
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Liberty Prime
Stargazer Exploration Company Transmission Lost
23
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:55:00 -
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Hedira wrote:I've seen lots of criticism here about the books that LA likes to read. Some attacks on his age.
But I have yet to see a serious attack on the things he's suggesting. The suggestions that Lucius has made do not appear to be related, in any way, to his philosophical ideals. Instead, I think it is fair to say that they are an accurate representation of changes that the wormhole community in general would like to see.
It will be disappointing if the majority of criticism he receives is ad hominem in nature, as seems to be the case currently. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3105
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Posted - 2012.02.09 15:14:00 -
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GUYS IM A CAPITALIST AND I LOVE AYN RAND, NOW HERE'S SOME STUFF ABOUT WORMHOLES
*everyone dogpiles the objectivists*
WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CAPITALISM AND AYN RAND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY THREAD
dude's entire first para is about rand and capitalism, this is itself proof that he has no political sensibilities whatsoever and will be an ineffective CSM member
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
616
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Posted - 2012.02.09 16:50:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:GUYS IM A CAPITALIST AND I LOVE AYN RAND, NOW HERE'S SOME STUFF ABOUT WORMHOLES
*everyone dogpiles the objectivists*
WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CAPITALISM AND AYN RAND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY THREAD
dude's entire first para is about rand and capitalism, this is itself proof that he has no political sensibilities whatsoever and will be an ineffective CSM member
******* objectivism, man. Such a naive and painfully destructive worldview. |

Tark en Chalune
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:04:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:
dude's entire first para is about rand and capitalism, this is itself proof that he has no political sensibilities whatsoever and will be an ineffective CSM member
He was being honest about his personal philosophy, and where he is coming from. Yes, he is a member of a corp that has been filled with conservative/libertarians since EVE beta.
It's hardly a surprise that a group of individualists have decided to form galt's gulches in wormhole space, instead of forming a large collective to seize portions of nullsec ... you do what you consider fun in this game. Why bother to play if you aren't enjoying what you are doing?
Your ad hominum attack is a bit amusing and hypocritical. The philosophy of the people he plays and associates with makes him no less effective than that of someone who is part of a group of folks that spend a lot of time parodying and trolling folks from, say, an internet forum?
Taggart has been in WH space for a very long time, since they were spanked out of null way back when. Lucius has developed a good rep as an honest broker of developed wormholes, and Taggart is now just about the only broker in EVE for them. This is a sound basis for choosing him as a candidate to promote wormhole space issues and fixes. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
625
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:20:00 -
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Tark en Chalune wrote: Your ad hominum attack is a bit amusing and hypocritical. The philosophy of the people he plays and associates with makes him no less effective than that of someone who is part of a group of folks that spend a lot of time parodying and trolling folks from, say, an internet forum?
Ad hominem. And yes, objectivism essentially disqualifies you from being an effective representative. Seriously, no sane person on the planet would trust a human being who believes in rationalized selfishness (or rational self-interest, for those of you who get offended when its called what it is) to hold their best interests to heart. It is fundamentally incompatible with the philosophy. I'd take a guy who has proven he can guide a massive coalition of thousands of players and mold it into a highly cohesive, organized fighting force while maintaining individuality and ensuring its members have access to a good time over some selfish nobody who lives in a wormhole any goddamn day of the year. It really sends a message when a anarchic socialist builds and maintains something literally hundreds of thousands of times more important and powerful than the guy whose entire philosophy is based around selfishness and production.
Tark en Chalune wrote: Taggart has been in WH space for a very long time, since they were spanked out of null way back when. Lucius has developed a good rep as an honest broker of developed wormholes, and Taggart is now just about the only broker in EVE for them. This is a sound basis for choosing him as a candidate to promote wormhole space issues and fixes.
What. No. Being a broker has absolutely nothing with being a political representative. Nothing whatsoever. |

Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:32:00 -
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Tark en Chalune wrote: He was being honest about his personal philosophy, and where he is coming from.
while being honest about his glaring defects is commendable it does not erase those glaring defects |

Tark en Chalune
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
2
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Posted - 2012.02.10 02:50:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote: Ad hominem. And yes, objectivism essentially disqualifies you from being an effective representative.
If you feel that forcing others to sacrifice their efforts for your political/social goals is laudible, then yes, he would not represent you well.
Akirei Scytale wrote: What. No. Being a broker has absolutely nothing with being a political representative. Nothing whatsoever.
It means that folks he has done business with trust him to keep his word. I suppose this is an instant disqualification for political office then? |
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Tark en Chalune
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
2
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Posted - 2012.02.10 02:53:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:Tark en Chalune wrote: He was being honest about his personal philosophy, and where he is coming from.
while being honest about his glaring defects is commendable it does not erase those glaring defects
So a philosophy that demands that you not expect others to sacrifice themselves involuntarily for your personal gain is a defect?
OK then.
Your honesty is also laudible. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9172
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Posted - 2012.02.10 02:56:00 -
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Best wishes! May the best bootstraps win. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9172
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Posted - 2012.02.10 02:58:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Tark en Chalune wrote: Your ad hominum attack is a bit amusing and hypocritical. The philosophy of the people he plays and associates with makes him no less effective than that of someone who is part of a group of folks that spend a lot of time parodying and trolling folks from, say, an internet forum?
Ad hominem. And yes, objectivism essentially disqualifies you from being an effective representative. Seriously, no sane person on the planet would trust a human being who believes in rationalized selfishness (or rational self-interest, for those of you who get offended when its called what it is) to hold their best interests to heart. It is fundamentally incompatible with the philosophy. Why would someone be offended that "rational self-interest" is sometimes called "rationalized selfishness"? Ayn Rand herself penned a book titled The Virtue of Selfishness, and made frequent use of both terms. I don't understand. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM. |

Tchaikav
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
0
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Posted - 2012.02.10 03:14:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:And yes, objectivism essentially disqualifies you from being an effective representative. Seriously, no sane person on the planet would trust a human being who believes in rationalized selfishness (or rational self-interest, for those of you who get offended when its called what it is) to hold their best interests to heart.
Politicians: Power hungry objectivists hiding themselves in ranks of socialistic society. They tout a "for the people" view while in fact are looking out for only themselves and their interests. They lie to their followers to make the largest possible group happy. Their attempts to appease the masses drives them and their followers into mediocrity.
I say it does not disqualify you at all. It may in fact be a requirement. I like a person who can be honest about their selfishness and clearly states his interest. You can trust him to look out for himself and do what he thinks best for himself.
He represents himself, a WH pilot that wants to see some changes. If you want the same changes that he wants then vote for him. If you want the same politicians keeping the status quo, maintaining their empires then vote for those that wish for nothing to change. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
654
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Posted - 2012.02.10 04:24:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote: Why would someone be offended that "rational self-interest" is sometimes called "rationalized selfishness"? Ayn Rand herself penned a book titled The Virtue of Selfishness, and made frequent use of both terms. I don't understand.
I've met quite a few objectivists who didn't take kindly to being called selfish pricks.
Tark en Chalune wrote: If you feel that forcing others to sacrifice their efforts for your political/social goals is laudible, then yes, he would not represent you well.
I wouldn't expect an objectivist to understand a concept like "mutual benefit", to be honest. Forcing others? Far from it.
Tark en Chalune wrote: It means that folks he has done business with trust him to keep his word. I suppose this is an instant disqualification for political office then?
It is irrelevant. Political positions demands a very specific skillset. The ability to argue a point clearly, the ability to motivate listeners, the ability to tell a story. Things entirely unrelated to being a broker.
Tchaikav wrote: Politicians: Power hungry objectivists hiding themselves in ranks of socialistic society. They tout a "for the people" view while in fact are looking out for only themselves and their interests. They lie to their followers to make the largest possible group happy. Their attempts to appease the masses drives them and their followers into mediocrity.
This is hardly true in every case. Hell, quite a few politicians consistently vote against their own opinions (which they had stated publicly before) because they believe their position exists specifically to be an extension of their constituents. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Viriato Pulo
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
0
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Posted - 2012.02.11 06:08:00 -
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It's as simple as to ask yourselves whether his program makes sense and is desirable. Any other considerations are fait divers launched by people with different (and dare I say it - selfish) agendas.
The suggestions make sense and would make operating my wh that much easier. Therefore LA has my support. ' nough said. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3859
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Posted - 2012.02.11 06:14:00 -
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if you people didn't hide in a wormhole i'd burn you to ashes with even more gusto than i would a corp of furries
actually maybe i'll have your wormhole found and you purged, had i known of your existence earlier i'd have done something The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3859
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Posted - 2012.02.11 06:15:00 -
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and i'm sure two step doesn't appreciate the competition for wormhole votes, either The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

VCBee 2fast2furious
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.11 14:50:00 -
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not sure which is the more horrible part of the OP; objectivism, or wanting T3 frigates. |

Skex Relbore
The Dominion of Light BLACK-MARK
68
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Posted - 2012.02.11 17:23:00 -
[40] - Quote
VCBee 2fast2furious wrote:not sure which is the more horrible part of the OP; objectivism, or wanting T3 frigates.
Objectivism by a few hundred light years. |
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:40:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:if you people didn't hide in a wormhole i'd burn you to ashes with even more gusto than i would a corp of furries
actually maybe i'll have your wormhole found and you purged, had i known of your existence earlier i'd have done something
I'm willing to alarm clock this op if it happens. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
794
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:55:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:The Mittani wrote:if you people didn't hide in a wormhole i'd burn you to ashes with even more gusto than i would a corp of furries
actually maybe i'll have your wormhole found and you purged, had i known of your existence earlier i'd have done something I'm willing to alarm clock this op if it happens.
Same.
Purging Objectivism from EVE? I'd be there every damn day on every damn op, and probably start a few of my own. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.02.14 16:19:00 -
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One CFC fleet after another, pounding your wormhole. Better go Galt.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9741
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Posted - 2012.02.15 05:22:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Tchaikav wrote: Politicians: Power hungry objectivists hiding themselves in ranks of socialistic society. They tout a "for the people" view while in fact are looking out for only themselves and their interests. They lie to their followers to make the largest possible group happy. Their attempts to appease the masses drives them and their followers into mediocrity.
This is hardly true in every case. Hell, quite a few politicians consistently vote against their own opinions (which they had stated publicly before) because they believe their position exists specifically to be an extension of their constituents. That is exactly my campaign promise, as it happens: to give up my own opinion entirely and to become an appendage of the People. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Khyra Rae
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 08:11:00 -
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"I don't like your ideas... I'm gonna come beat you up!" -Wow intelligent much?
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Khyra Rae
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 08:16:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Tchaikav wrote: Politicians: Power hungry objectivists hiding themselves in ranks of socialistic society. They tout a "for the people" view while in fact are looking out for only themselves and their interests. They lie to their followers to make the largest possible group happy. Their attempts to appease the masses drives them and their followers into mediocrity.
This is hardly true in every case. Hell, quite a few politicians consistently vote against their own opinions (which they had stated publicly before) because they believe their position exists specifically to be an extension of their constituents. That is exactly my campaign promise, as it happens: to give up my own opinion entirely and to become an appendage of the People.
So you mean Spine-less, correct? That is exactly what I look for in a leader, someone who is spine-less. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.02.15 12:35:00 -
[47] - Quote
Khyra Rae wrote: So you mean Spine-less, correct? That is exactly what I look for in a leader, someone who is spine-less.
No, he said he wants to be your appendage. I think he would be an outstanding member of the CSM for that very reason.
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Khyra Rae
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 15:39:00 -
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Oh, I see. So puppet would be a more accurate description then? |

HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
136
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Posted - 2012.02.15 20:59:00 -
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Lucius Arcturus wrote:**UPDATE: Sadly, due to RL issues I won't be able to continue in the CSM race this year. But thanks to those who supported me, and best of luck to the other candidates!**
Just to clarify, the real-life issue stopping you from running is the fact that your real life opinions mark you as someone nobody would want to share a planet with, never mind vote for in a spaceship forum. |

Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.15 22:45:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:if you people didn't hide in a wormhole i'd burn you to ashes with even more gusto than i would a corp of furries
actually maybe i'll have your wormhole found and you purged, had i known of your existence earlier i'd have done something my ceo |
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