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Helven Fendor
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 06:24:00 -
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*posting with an alt to keep channels secure**
Hey guys my corporation recently moved to Teonusude (Molden Heath). We are a group of friends who have grown up together and gamed together all our time. We are a close bunch of guys all from the same city, approx 15 of us although we do have alts which bloats ou rcorp to an average of 50 members.
The highsec systems have served us well and after deciding to branch out and hit the lowsec ring we spent a few weeks scouting out the area.
This did not bring good news.
Resources, missions and access to further afield and creating an alliance of like minded peaceful members is our goal and here we thought we had the chance to strike gold.
We have been shocked by the activities of some of the community. Gate camps, missions being hijacked and ships stolen and in some cases destroyed completely. These individuals will offer ransoms which we flatly refuse to pay on morale grounds but even then they will pod our capsules without a care in the world. I can not grasp this playstyle, to intently try and ruin the game for others who enjoy the serene side to eve is wrong in my opinion.
So where do you come in c&p ?
We are willing to pay a hefty wardec fee and sizeable bounty to an advanced tactical combat unit that will be willing to move to our region and help us claim the stronghold systems for our own use.
I don't know if this operation has taken place before but simply put, we want a piracy suppression to happen on our doorstep.
The problem areas. Istodard and the systems around that dead-end pocket. Pocket will need clearing and current corporations flushing out.
Bosena/oddelulf, tactical entry points. Again system will need flushing out. Presence of mercenary forces putting off pirate activities.
Heild and Aedald. System clear out. We have pinpointed this system as possible future home for our new alliance members. System will need flushing out. Mercenary presence round the clock to quell pirate activities.
Egbinger. Access to Great Wildland nullsec space. System will need heavy guards to monitor safekeeping of fleet movement.
Before the cat calls start. No I am not mad. But the house has finally buckled, these infestations are even moving into OUR highsec systems. A corp member of mine lost a Hulk last week and a Retriever, we feel that if our contract goes live, who is going to do that with our blockades.These antics need to stop.
To make this easier, we are willing to offer our full support to the op. To make sure things run smoothly and we can supervise the operations as we instruct. Some of our members are primarily mission runners and miners but we know how to fit a battlecruiser, even our new pilots can.
Sorry for long post. Please contact me via in games mail. With A- a price. B - an estimation of time this will take.
We can afford this. We are not small time.
Thank you for your considerations. |

Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
382
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Posted - 2012.02.08 06:56:00 -
[2] - Quote
A) Welcome to eve, where complaining about pirates makes you even more of a target. Props on going for mercs tho :)
B) I believe you are looking for in-game channel 'merc contracts' to find a reliable merc group. They police themselves in that channel, so you are unlikely to get scammed. Anyone who mails you anything else, well, is probably out to scam ya.
Good luck, but never expect peace in New Eden. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
341
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Posted - 2012.02.08 07:03:00 -
[3] - Quote
I can't imagine how much it's gonna cost you to do this, but good luck. http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |

Helven Fendor
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 07:20:00 -
[4] - Quote
Thanks for the input guys. Will join channel when I finish school. We've plenty of ISK.  |

Daniel L'Siata
Echelon Conflict Resolution. Psychotic Tendencies.
84
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Posted - 2012.02.08 08:47:00 -
[5] - Quote
This is so doomed to fail horribly. |

Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus
42
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Posted - 2012.02.08 08:55:00 -
[6] - Quote
So you move into their lowsec and are shocked by their gameplay. Good luck! |

eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:07:00 -
[7] - Quote
Helven Fendor wrote:*posting with an alt to keep channels secure**
Hey guys my corporation recently moved to Teonusude (Molden Heath). We are a group of friends who have grown up together and gamed together all our time. We are a close bunch of guys all from the same city, approx 15 of us although we do have alts which bloats ou rcorp to an average of 50 members.
The highsec systems have served us well and after deciding to branch out and hit the lowsec ring we spent a few weeks scouting out the area.
This did not bring good news.
Resources, missions and access to further afield and creating an alliance of like minded peaceful members is our goal and here we thought we had the chance to strike gold.
We have been shocked by the activities of some of the community. Gate camps, missions being hijacked and ships stolen and in some cases destroyed completely. These individuals will offer ransoms which we flatly refuse to pay on morale grounds but even then they will pod our capsules without a care in the world. I can not grasp this playstyle, to intently try and ruin the game for others who enjoy the serene side to eve is wrong in my opinion.
So where do you come in c&p ?
We are willing to pay a hefty wardec fee and sizeable bounty to an advanced tactical combat unit that will be willing to move to our region and help us claim the stronghold systems for our own use.
I don't know if this operation has taken place before but simply put, we want a piracy suppression to happen on our doorstep.
The problem areas. Istodard and the systems around that dead-end pocket. Pocket will need clearing and current corporations flushing out.
Bosena/oddelulf, tactical entry points. Again system will need flushing out. Presence of mercenary forces putting off pirate activities.
Heild and Aedald. System clear out. We have pinpointed this system as possible future home for our new alliance members. System will need flushing out. Mercenary presence round the clock to quell pirate activities.
Egbinger. Access to Great Wildland nullsec space. System will need heavy guards to monitor safekeeping of fleet movement.
Before the cat calls start. No I am not mad. But the house has finally buckled, these infestations are even moving into OUR highsec systems. A corp member of mine lost a Hulk last week and a Retriever, we feel that if our contract goes live, who is going to do that with our blockades.These antics need to stop.
To make this easier, we are willing to offer our full support to the op. To make sure things run smoothly and we can supervise the operations as we instruct. Some of our members are primarily mission runners and miners but we know how to fit a battlecruiser, even our new pilots can.
Sorry for long post. Please contact me via in games mail. With A- a price. B - an estimation of time this will take.
We can afford this. We are not small time.
Thank you for your considerations.
I have something i think i can add to threads rightous thread
"mmmmm salty sweet bear tears"
While I feel for you, I have to say... being one of those nasty people that like to ruin others peoples day, I have to say... "dude, this is eve, if you don't like it... perhaps a return to high sec is in order"
More over, I fail to understand how this kind of action is sustainable, If you publicly call for mercs, the nasty people will come looking for the fights they bring, it will not force away your problems, but in fact double or triple them.
This is the paradox at the heart of hiring mercs to fight pvpers, most pvp corp welcome fights, wardecs and any other action that will result in a fight.
Speaking from the other side of the fence, I would honestly suggest you spend another few weeks scouting somewhere else and keep scoutinig till you find a quiet, "safe" and out of the way cluster that suits your needs.
I'm sure the residents of Amamake, Tama or Old Man Star would love to see you chaps and welcome you with open hearts and arms.
Edd
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Tora Bushido
Count With Teddy Mercenaries Stay Calm Don't Panic
13
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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:14:00 -
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MMm..... why do I have the feeling we are talking to a regular of C&P here, looking at the writing style. OOhh well.... paranoid is a good thing to stay alive. 
WHO ARE YOU, where were you last night, why are bananas yellow/green ?! 'We need Tora on CSM like we need holes in our heads.... Both will get you metal plates
Copyright : Tallian Saotome EVE PR Services |

roboto212
The Ghost Division
3
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:24:00 -
[9] - Quote
So basically you want hire mercs to do to others what was done to you plus kick them out of there home system. And do you have plans to sustain control of the system after the contract expires or were you looking for a long term contract. |

ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii
360
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Posted - 2012.02.08 17:40:00 -
[10] - Quote
I like this idea of a tranquil, lowsec utopia for PVE and shizz. Dunno how it will work though.
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |

Barbiturate
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:16:00 -
[11] - Quote
Fantastic.. why on earth they didn't just come to a deal with the people already in the system and pay them rent. Hell, even go out to null and rent some better space out there...
but no... |

eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:19:00 -
[12] - Quote
roboto212 wrote:So basically you want hire mercs to do to others what was done to you plus kick them out of there home system. And do you have plans to sustain control of the system after the contract expires or were you looking for a long term contract.
Feel free to contact us in game or by eve-mail I would like to hear more.
This is an interesting spin.
It could be said that the OP here, invaded someone else's home system and they defended it.
The OP's call for Mercs now makes him look like an aggressor and guilty of all the things he bemoaned.
|

Jensen Blayloc
Galtech Alloy and Nanotech Group
3
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:32:00 -
[13] - Quote
Sounds Like a rich contract.. I am currently looking for a new corp. If there is a Merc crew looking to do this give me a shout. Make tons of isk, sit around for a few weeks after the Pirates decide to sos or run alts till we get bored, once the contract is up, wait around for us to get called back when they can't hold the area..
Good for lulz and isk. |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
144
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:52:00 -
[14] - Quote
This is an intriguing contract order. I wonder if there's a merc joint around capable of handling multiple system anti-piracy duty. I also wonder if the OP can afford such mercs for long. |

Officer Nyota Uhura
210
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:58:00 -
[15] - Quote
eddie valvetino wrote: "mmmmm salty sweet bear tears"
Sir: I beg to disagree with you. If these guys really mission and mine in lowsec, I bid them good luck with their endeavor!
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FeralShadow
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
50
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:04:00 -
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i dont get why people say these people should go back to high sec. The biggest gripe is that carebears choose not to pvp and just get their asses handed to them. Well these people (if they aren't alts) are actually doing something about it. These people understand eve. As a long-time pirate and a longer-time pvper, I applaude these individuals for their determination. They get eve. |

Jensen Blayloc
Galtech Alloy and Nanotech Group
3
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:06:00 -
[17] - Quote
Any decent size Merc crew would do it (for the length of the contract), but unless you were crazy why would you hire them to. It would cost way too much isk, the Pirates just go to ground until the contract is up, then they go back to work. MH can not be cleared of pirates permanently, hell, if you pay them enough they will let you roam around a couple weeks and pretend you cleared them.
The thing about pirates, even if they don't want to alt it up for a couple weeks, they can move on and kill in some other lowsec area until the mercs get too expensive to afford. Then they just come back. If your alliance isn't big enough to control the space, for as long as you operate there, you are not going to live past the contract. No Merc company is going to take the job on a per kill basis because another funny thing about pirates is, they fight when THEY want to, not when YOU want to. |

Fatal pewpew
Skanky Gankers Association
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 23:24:00 -
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4/10, unless your not trolling, in which case i feel sorry for you 
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Ahrieman
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
33
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Posted - 2012.02.09 00:47:00 -
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eddie valvetino wrote:Helven Fendor wrote:Please help us get rid of piwates! More Quoted Stuff ______________________ I'm sure the residents of Amamake, Tama or Old Man Star would love to see you chaps and welcome you with open hearts and arms. Edd
First of all, I would like to offer you an invitation to move your group to Amamake. We have many stations with cloning and repair facilities. Pator Tech is also a great place to grab skillbooks - just ask Lukka. With high level missions and agents, you will have access to many resources. Even better, we are right next to high sec space: Rens (the major minmatar market hub) is only 3 jumps away and Abudban (with an excellent ice field) is only 2 jumps away. We also have that valuable low sec ore that you desperately crave just going to waste in 3-1.
Secondly, I think it is great that these bears are angry and want to fight the pirates. This is actually the sort of conflict that low sec, and piracy in general, needs.
OP, I doubt you realize how expensive this operation will be. I don't doubt how much isk you have available from L4's and the like, just how long it will last for such a large scale merc op.
My honest recommendation is that you should try recruiting a pvp corp to your alliance and paying them a monthly salary from your corp's taxes on mission running/mining. Their role can be to break up gate camps, camp pirates in station, hot drop pirates into a fit of rage, and just generally blob the f***ing daylights out of them. Low sec PvP'ers need to get paid and you could add a valuable dynamic to the region by providing a mechanism for them to profit as well. I scam on my main |

Firebolt145
ghostco.
35
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Posted - 2012.02.09 00:56:00 -
[20] - Quote
If troll, ahaha well done you made me laugh.
If legit, well done you made me laugh, and come at us bro! |

Dirty Protagonist
Gunpoint Diplomacy
13
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:02:00 -
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hello
as battallord skymarshal and warden of the molden heath region, i greet everyone in this thread
my hat i tip to my brethren scalliwags who have already represented themselves, i give heartiest greeting to my honored "anti-pirate" opponents who i am sure will read this as well as a resounding battalcry of great honoure~ to the OP
i am posting in this thread in my most serious of minds today to tell you all...
friendship is magical~~
\o// |

tofucake prime
The Hatchery Team Liquid
43
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:04:00 -
[22] - Quote
Pay me 15b and I'll ask Ueber not to shoot you. |

Celestial Blue
Tangodown Nederland Science and Research N.V
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:10:00 -
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I am replying on behalf of a Native High Sec Mercenary to protect his/her identity.
"I have also noticed increase activity of the Low Sec filth of Molden Heath and have also began operations to rid of it personally.. I will be in full agreement to terms. However we need to discuss this in game when you have the alloted time to do so. Please contact Celestial Blue in game and she will contact me. I am in 100% interest in this and wish to help out by any means necessary.
I personally have been engaged against this Filth one too many times already and have been increasing my corporations assets and personel to counter it.
Please contact us as soon as you get this"
ENNO
Umm yeah thats what he/she said :P |

Thorasine
Gunpoint Diplomacy
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:13:00 -
[24] - Quote
Good to know we have not gone unnoticed.
Things should get interesting here on out.
Bring whatever you guys want at us...we're ready for it ;) |

Vasavia
Gunpoint Diplomacy
6
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:38:00 -
[25] - Quote
Dirty Protagonist wrote:hello
as battallord skymarshal and warden of the molden heath region, i greet everyone in this thread
my hat i tip to my brethren scalliwags who have already represented themselves, i give heartiest greeting to my honored "anti-pirate" opponents who i am sure will read this as well as a resounding battalcry of great honoure~ to the OP
i am posting in this thread in my most serious of minds today to tell you all...
friendship is magical~~
\o// tl;dr "Furthermore, buttz". |

Titus Veridius
Gunpoint Diplomacy
2
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:42:00 -
[26] - Quote
COA
Hi. Can we plz haz mercenaries? |

Harrigan VonStudly
The Generic Pirate Corporation
4
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:59:00 -
[27] - Quote
Quote: These individuals will offer ransoms which we flatly refuse to pay on morale grounds but even then they will pod our capsules without a care in the world. Let's see. A ransom usually means pay or die. You refuse, die, then assassinate the good name of honorable warriors in a public post of tears.
Mkay
Quote:To make this easier, we are willing to offer our full support to the op. To make sure things run smoothly and we can supervise the operations as we instruct. Some of our members are primarily mission runners and miners but we know how to fit a battlecruiser, even our new pilots can.
LOL
Quote:. We are not small time
Yes you are. |

xxCaptainxx
Dead Bear's Social Club
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 04:00:00 -
[28] - Quote
Willing to work with and set standings to clear pirate scum from molden heath. Feel free to convo or mail in game I cant say more here.
Thank You Captain |

xxxAlloxxx
Gunpoint Diplomacy
17
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Posted - 2012.02.09 04:13:00 -
[29] - Quote
Moar peeps to shoot \0/
Also: Butts First pvp video: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=214829&#post214829 Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-unXaPnyw |

Jaxley
The Tuskers
4
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Posted - 2012.02.09 08:54:00 -
[30] - Quote
Aren't you just adorable! /)^3^(\
Come to Verge Vendor lowsec, pay Tuskers to leave you alone. It's cheaper than mercs! |

Daniel L'Siata
Echelon Conflict Resolution. Psychotic Tendencies.
84
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:43:00 -
[31] - Quote
tofucake prime wrote:Pay me 15b and I'll ask Ueber not to shoot you.
He'll shoot them anyways and we all know it. The Machariel hungers.
Also, OP, please pay a visit to Solitude sometime, you'll be dying to meet us.
Oh boy, I'm clever. |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations
205
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Posted - 2012.02.09 15:27:00 -
[32] - Quote
And once the contract is over and you paid billions upon billions to merc corps , when the pirates come back -and they WILL - what is your 15 man corp gonna do then?Hire new mercs costing billions again?
Even if not a troll this is one of the worst ways to spend a shitload of isk  |

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2797
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Posted - 2012.02.09 16:25:00 -
[33] - Quote
" advanced tactical combat unit "
haha
now get the **** out
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |

Helven Fendor
Doomheim
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 16:41:00 -
[34] - Quote
Thanks for all the mails and conversations I had with the mercenaries who were polite enough to offer their services. I appreciate the input.
As for the actual contract. Unfortunately we could not come to an agreement on the cost of such an operation. I therefore will sink back into the background and admit to having egg on my face on this call. Some of the prices begin quotes for over 15 billion isk, some as high as 25b
It seems I drastically under estimated the wealth of my corp. Where a 100 million isk seems like a large sum to some it is mere pocket chnage in the circle of the mercenaries. Again, sorry for the misunderstandings.
I did here from one group who were very keen on taking up a 'free issue' contract. No sums will be paid and they are 'doing the task for teh lulz' as the ceo of his corp told me. So we, as a group look forward to some fights over the coming weeks and months and hopefully we can stay in our new home.
Yours half heartedly in defeat but not quite finished.
x
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george harries
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:12:00 -
[35] - Quote
FWIW I have no idea how much isk you have to spend - but clearly 'a lot of isk' is different to different people. One idea (not sure if it's been proposed) would be to use some isk for PvP training - either via some of the well known 'courses' such as the ones run by Agony Unleashed http://www.agony-unleashed.com/ and I know there are others. Or you could see if some of the better known Merc Corps would be happy to train your corpies up in some basic PvP training, ship fittings etc - you never know you might start enjoying it and running small roams!!!
However, saying all that, if you are going to mission/mine in a low sec area then be prepared to lose a LOT of ships - I really can't see how it could be economically viable EVEN if you could afford a Merc Corp to cleanse the area, as others have said - the pirates will return and more than likely will be running locator agents on you and even war deccing so they can chase you back (and into) high sec. Plus by posting with (what I assume) is your main you have simply put a nice fat crosshair on you and your corpmates as 'easy' kills!
My main is in a PvP corp with a mixed alliance that is based in high sec but borders low sec - I mainly PvE but also have a 'pure' PvP character. I would never mission or mine in low sec - why give anyone a juicy target that they can gloat over when they pop you ? |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations
205
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:18:00 -
[36] - Quote
Helven Fendor wrote: Where a 100 million isk seems like a large sum to some it is mere pocket chnage in the circle of the mercenaries. Again, sorry for the misunderstandings.
Trust me if i say that is pocket change for a LOT of people in eve not just mercenaries. |

Dirty Protagonist
Gunpoint Diplomacy
14
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Posted - 2012.02.09 18:22:00 -
[37] - Quote
that's really too bad
i was excited for the apparent wave of bumbling high sec mercs that were apparently going to come knock on my front door looking to try to kill me and my guys. that was going to be ~somuchfun~ |

PeacemakerCEO
Peacemaker Solutions
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 18:36:00 -
[38] - Quote
This pirate brutality MUST be stopped!
Good people of EvE, we must help Helven Fendor raise the funds he needs to hire decent mercenaries to free his region from their scummy menace!
My corporation Peacemaker Solutions is prepared to take these donations on their behalf and give them in their entirety to Mr. Fendor once he reveals his main character's organization.
Please put "Low Sec Antipiracy Fund: Minmatar" in the comment with all of your donations.
For the Republic! |

Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
1
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:38:00 -
[39] - Quote
I wonder if Khassan Warden knows the trouble he causes.
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Reppyk
The Black Shell
37
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:28:00 -
[40] - Quote
Helven Fendor wrote:Thanks for the input guys. Will join channel when I finish school. We've plenty of ISK.  Helven Fendor wrote:It seems I drastically under estimated the wealth of my corp. Where a 100 million isk seems like a large sum to some it is mere pocket chnage in the circle of the mercenaries. Again, sorry for the misunderstandings. Ok. |

Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
46
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Posted - 2012.02.10 00:40:00 -
[41] - Quote
One of our directors recently left our corp and ran to join pirates in molden heath. We would be happy to accept a contract to kill him. |

tofucake prime
The Hatchery Team Liquid
43
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Posted - 2012.02.10 00:46:00 -
[42] - Quote
Daniel L'Siata wrote:tofucake prime wrote:Pay me 15b and I'll ask Ueber not to shoot you. He'll shoot them anyways and we all know it. The Machariel hungers. Also, OP, please pay a visit to Solitude sometime, you'll be dying to meet us. Oh boy, I'm clever. Yeah but at least I'd have 15b. |

Firebolt145
Gunpoint Diplomacy
35
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Posted - 2012.02.10 07:58:00 -
[43] - Quote
Michael Harari wrote:One of our directors recently left our corp and ran to join pirates in molden heath. We would be happy to accept a contract to kill him.
:< |

Azro Zora
The Hatchery Team Liquid
2
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Posted - 2012.02.10 08:20:00 -
[44] - Quote
dirty traitor! |

Vasavia
Gunpoint Diplomacy
6
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:32:00 -
[45] - Quote
Dirty Protagonist wrote:that's really too bad
i was excited for the apparent wave of bumbling high sec mercs that were apparently going to come knock on my front door looking to try to kill me and my guys. that was going to be ~somuchfun~ Not to fret!
We now have Phole to look forward to....since he has the "location on my corp" and all that. |

Mr Morita
Gunpoint Diplomacy
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:38:00 -
[46] - Quote
We're not fleeting with you mate.
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Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.02.11 15:36:00 -
[47] - Quote
My first character in 2003 became an pirate based in Bosena, roaming Molden Heath.
The area hasn't changed since, do you really want to go **** on 8 - 9 years of history?
Somethings never change. Molden Heath being a pirate region is one of those. |

Titus Veridius
Gunpoint Diplomacy
2
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:51:00 -
[48] - Quote
What kind of **** threatens Mercs and then doesn't follow through. I've literally been waiting......idle......staring at the Teon gate for 2 months. WTF. |

Titus Veridius
Gunpoint Diplomacy
2
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:54:00 -
[49] - Quote
This is worse than when I was staring at the Tannhauser gate. Some **** cyborg replicant was flying around asking ever fcking Assault ship that was on fire....if they had called "URANUS For Help". What a ****. |

ZANE VOIDSTALKER
Concentrated Evil Mining For Profit Alliance
8
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Posted - 2012.03.20 14:49:00 -
[50] - Quote
if you did well in high but cant defend a low sec answer is easy STAY IN HIGH SEC!!!!! if you want to move into low you have to be able to take care of yourself you cant be spending all your isk on merc every time you get in trouble in low because it will be daily. so please move back to high sec so i can dec you for a nice ransom rofl. |

Titus Veridius
Gunpoint Diplomacy
2
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Posted - 2012.04.13 08:23:00 -
[51] - Quote
Necro card |
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