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Shevar
Minmatar
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Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.02 11:18:00 -
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The vargur is the worst of the 4 marauders, but I'm confident a vargur will make more isk/hour doing level 4 missions then any other minmatar ship (when factoring in loottimes and ammo useage).
Unless you only run missions for LP/standing ofcourse...
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Shevar
Minmatar
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.02 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Shevar on 02/01/2008 11:23:50
 Originally by: Riho
only issue i have whit the Vargur is the PG.... i cant even fit smalles artys on it... that means i dont have ANYTHING else fitt and still it wount fit :(, whit 3 pdu t2 i can make it fit (only guns tho :( )
strange ship
There is a good reason for this, if the vargur could fit 4 1400's (or even 1200's...) since then it could fit 4x 800's with 3 heavy neuts/nosses and some cap injectors, plates whatever. CCP doesn't want you to use the utility slots for PvP items, hence they had to severly limit the vargurs PG (the PG diffrence between short range and long range weapons for Minmatar is huge compared to the other races).
The other option would have been to totally revamp PG useage of every minmatar gun and total grid available for every minmatar ship. But since that would probably cause even more whines they opted for making the vargur AC only.
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Shevar
Minmatar
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Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Shevar on 02/01/2008 14:43:47
Originally by: Zaran Darkstar
All in all the only thing Vargur can do better than the other T1 Minmatar Battleships is Looting/Salvaging!
Go download this little program and see for yourselves!
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Gripen/EFT2.4.1.zip
The palladin does less DPS then an gheddon but trust me it will earn more isk/hour then one.
The Kronos does less DPS then a hyperion but trust me it will earn more isk/hour then one.
The golem does less DPS then a raven trust me it will earn more isk/hour then one.
And guess what? The same applies to the vargur, I do agree it is the weakest of the marauders but it's definatly more proffitable to fly then a typhoon/tempest/maelstorm (assuming you are a high sec carebear that is). Wether you find it's worth your isk is a second question, but since pre-trinity there were loads of caldari navy ravens around I would say that there is a market for em.
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true... but my paladin fits 4 tachys whit a single rep tank :( sure no mwd, capinj... but still :P
guess its AC Vargur then :) its not bad but would have been nice to fit artys :)
You need atleast 1 fitting mod for that. Unless you want tech1... But then again it was probably more worthwhile to train for tech2 turrets then that it was training awu5/bs5.
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Shevar
Minmatar
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.02 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Dralisz
i dont know why the matars crying always.
vargur:
high: 4x 800mm ACt2, 2 salvager, 1 tractor
med: 100mn ab t2,gist-b xl, 2x SBA t2, 2 hardener t2
low: 2x cap flux coil t2, 2 gyro stab t2, damage control t2
rig: 2ccc
dps: 812 (barrage) with 3x ogre t2
range:6+45
the gist B xl is working always. (1009 eff dps) em-thermal
kronos:
high: 4X425mm rail t2, 2 salvager, 1 tarctor
med: 3X cap rech t2, 100mn ab t2
low: 1600mm rolled, centus-b LAR, 4 hardener t2, 1 en adaptive nano t2
rig: 2ccc
dps: 433 (spike)+3 ogre t2
range: 130+30 (targeting 108)
the armor rep is working always. (427 eff dps) em-thermal
with javelin: 18+30 range and 614dps+3x ogret2
so stop crying matar!
It isn't really fair to compare a 110 km setup to a 50 km setup.
The only problem is that it can only be somewhat compared to a ship using megapulses (also medium range), because comparing it to for example blasters would turn it skewed the other way around compared to the 425's.
As for fitting I would most definably fit in a fall off rig on there to capitalize on the ships main strong point.
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