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Ki Tarra
Caldari
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.03 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/01/2008 03:36:08
 Originally by: Xorian lightmoon
What do you recommend other then intaki for drones? Hek if you dont mind just give me the layout if I want to start with drones early.
Pick which ever Gallente bloodline that you like the looks of most, the choose the Ancentry and attributes as listed below:
Jin-Mei -> Saan Go Caste w/ +3Perc +2Int
or
Gallente -> Miners w/ +3Will +2Int
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Intaki -> Artists w/ +3Perc +2Mem
They are all equally good, so just pick the one you like the looks of most.
To get an early start on Drones choose the Special Forces carear path.
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Ashen Angel
Minmatar
Bad Dog Digging
Empire Research
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Posted - 2008.01.03 03:43:00 -
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I created this little pdf that shows the racial stats and ancestries
And if you go to this site they have done a set of charts with starting skills: http://hammer-eve.blogspot.com/2007/05/advanced-starting-careers.html
Shows the starting skills ( I think it's off with some of the adjustments they made since but still fairly accurate)
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Xorian lightmoon
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Posted - 2008.01.03 03:44:00 -
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Thank you im still confused on what you meant by attributes balancing out later on.
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Ashen Angel
Minmatar
Bad Dog Digging
Empire Research
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Posted - 2008.01.03 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Xorian lightmoon
Thank you im still confused on what you meant by attributes balancing out later on.
With implants and learning skills you can fill in gaps in the attributes.
take my character: IN EVE Link
You'll see her starting stats and the adjustments from the learning skills and implants
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Xorian lightmoon
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Posted - 2008.01.03 03:49:00 -
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Wow you are very balanced:) Ok so if I want to start out well with drones I want more in perception right?
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Ki Tarra
Caldari
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.03 03:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/01/2008 03:51:56
Originally by: Xorian lightmoon
Thank you im still confused on what you meant by attributes balancing out later on.
With the setup I am recommending for Intaki your base attributes would be 8I 8C 8P 9M 6W.
Add the starting skills for Special Forces and they would be 8I 8C 10P 9M 10W.
Train up your learning skills to level 4 and add a set of level 3 implants and they will balance out at 21I 21C 21P 22M 19W.
Optionally you could shuffle 1 point from memory to will power so that your final attributes would all be 21 except will power at 20.
Originally by: Xorian lightmoon
Ok so if I want to start out well with drones I want more in perception right?
If you want to do anything that involves flying a spaceship you want more perception. 
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Xorian lightmoon
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Posted - 2008.01.03 04:28:00 -
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Thanks for the help I followed your advice it actually seems like im flying faster now to anyways im sure it will be a good start.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Xorian lightmoon
Yea I went intaki and artist and I thought memory/int is for drones those will be my main weapons from my understanding.
rgr that makes sense :P
pink supporter!
Future art director at CCP!
or texture guy, either or :P
http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:38:00 -
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someone told you about eve-mon by now right?
pink supporter!
Future art director at CCP!
or texture guy, either or :P
http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop
Was in class with these folks :P |
Jade Gemfire
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:43:00 -
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another important thing...
your stats (int, mem, cha, will, perc) do NOT affect your combat in any way. or how NPC's perceive you (charisma)
your attrib stats ONLY affect how fast/slow you train skills, period.
if you have low charisma, then your training for skills in leadership and social will be slow.
if you have low int/mem then your training for skills in electronics, engineering will be slow.
few tips for new comers...
roll a toon. play it a few days and figure out the game
few days later, realize... "oh well i screwed that toons stats up"
reroll a better toon, trash the old one.
focus on training your learning skills:
Learning - gives 2% bonus per level to your attributes. Level 4 learning turns a 16 int into (0.02% x 4) * 16 = +1.28 or 17.28 int. Eve DOES use the fractional part, you can get a program like EveMon which will show your true stats to 2 decimals (eve game only shows the integer).
Will Power, Spat Aware, Inst Recall, Analy Mind... each level gives you 1 attrib point in whichever the skill is for. Train these to lvl 3 or 4, and that will make your training faster (Before you go into alot of training for spaceship command and gunnery and missiles, get your Perc and Will power up... before you train Mech, Eng, Elec, Industry, Science... get your Int and Mem skills up to lvl 3 or 4. Training will go faster that way.
If you are about to go into alot of Spaceship Command training, it's useless to work on getting your int/mem up since those attribs are not considered when calcuating training time for SS CMD... get perc and willpower up tho.
Training goes on in realtime and once a skill has finished, training will STOP, you can't queue skills. So when going to bed, swap to a training skill that will last longer than when you will be away from the game. When you come back to the game, swap to train some skills that will finish before you quit player, then swap back to the long training skills when your done playing, rinse and repeat. Gives you some immediate skills for now, and also preps you for the future with your learning.
2 week goal: learning, will power, analy mind, inst recall, spat aware all up to level 3 or 4. People will ridicule me for this but also try to get Empathy up to lvl 2 or 3. If you start with 3 cha that will nearly double your social traing times.
Empathy because I recommend you get some social skills which will help IMMENSELY in getting your standing (rep) up with NPC factions. If you have low social skills, your rep increase will be at a snails pace. 3 week goal: Social lvl3, Connections lvl3, Negotiation lvl3. Empathy will speed up learning these skills. Youre gonna need 48000 skill points to get to lvl 3's ... with my cha 7.5 and int 20.5 thats about 48 hours of training.
Read: http://eve-maths.com/wiki/index.php?title=Standings
This is also for you 3-4 week gamers who are wondering why they can't get better agents after running tons of missions :)
Overall, when people say balance your stats, leaving cha to low priority, I agree. There are only a handful of skills that use cha as a primary, well worth gimping it when you make your character. However - you should boost cha with Empathy and a +1 limited implant... which you will probably get as a mission reward down the road. I've already got an extra set of +1's from mission rewards.
Also, remember to upgrade your clone when you get near that clone's max level of skill points it can hold... if you get killed (podded) you revert back to your clone, and if your clone can't hold as many skill points as you have learned, you are going to lose alot of time catching back up (imagine that skill you got to lvl 5 getting nuked!)
And don't be afraid of low-sec. In a cheap frig and no costly implants, you dont have much to lose. Eye Local for human pirates and traffic advisories, and get you some rats... they are mostly cruiser rats who have a hard time with a lil frig cirlcling them at 500m
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Iria Ahrens
Amarr
101st Space Marine Force
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Gemfire
few tips for new comers...
Sounds like every mmo I ever played :)
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Overall, when people say balance your stats, leaving cha to low priority, I agree. There are only a handful of skills that use cha as a primary, well worth gimping it when you make your character. However - you should boost cha with Empathy and a +1 limited implant... which you will probably get as a mission reward down the road. I've already got an extra set of +1's from mission rewards.
It's not the number of skills that use the attribute that matters the most, it's the number of skills the player will want to max that matters the most. 4s are usually plenty for most things, but once a player wants a 5 in advanced skills, those extra points start to matter a lot. The player already said leadership skills appeal the most to his personality, so he very well might rather max his Leadership and Corporate skills and be happy with large turret 4.
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focus on training your learning skills:
While this advice isn't inherently bad, I suggest not "focusing" on learning skills. Not just including the usual advice to mix up the learning and fun skills, but I suggest training learning skills in pairs, instead of all at once. Train Int and Mem learning skills first, since they affect most other learning skills, then train some normal int mem skills, once those are fleshed out a bit, work on the perception learning skills, and then flesh out a few perception and memory fun skills, then train some will power learning skills and so on.
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