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Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 15:36:00 - [1] I'm frankly shocked that this whole thing comes as a surprise to anyone. I've been confessing to it at just about every Eve meet I have attended which involved consuming alcohol, which is to say every Eve meet I have attended. What was unexpected for me was that we would still be fighting a year later against the wrong people. The problem really came from overestimating our intended opponents. I was under the impression that were were going to go full force against ASCN, whilst insulting D2 in to attacking us from the north (by claiming that we choose to attack ASCN because D2 would have been too easy). ASCN would use its huge wealth and organisation to stall us (and they nearly did at the start), whilst D2 used it's PvP experience to charge towards Delve from the North. Unfortunately ASCN pretty much fell apart and D2 had apparently been swamped by ship builders rather than pilots. Shame really. I guess we expected D2 to have been more like Evoke are now, and things would have worked out very differently. Anyway, yes, the plan has always been pretty much to provoke an epic Eve vs BoB struggle, as much to generate some content and interest to Eve as to actually get lots of pew-pew (although that is great too). I guess our goal would have been better achieved with different opponents (no offence to Goonswarm, but they are hardly the "epic content" I had in mind - I was thinking more Darth Vader than Jar-Jar Binks), and less lag; but they are still being achieved none the less. With the turn of MC we may still get the Epic content, and I am keeping my fingers crossed on the Epic battles (which, it has to be said, have been much improved over recent days). Yes, people got played - but it wasn't really a secret anyway. I'm sure many people were on to us pretty early on (in fact, I know some were, because we talked and laughed about it over drinks), I'm just shocked that so many people are having a hard time accepting that we are playing a game of internet spaceships, and trying to make it as fun and entertaining as possible. Without a bit of drama Eve would be so dull. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 16:13:00 - [2] Originally by: Faithless F Look at all the BoB guys feeling offended and posting "funny" stuff to protect their nerdish friends I think it would be more accurate to say that my post, and the implications of it (re: goons getting played), so got under the skin of a GS member that he felt his only course of action was to lash out with personal insults, possibly due to a lack of a more mature coping mechanism. Whilst I found the "nerd" attack marginally amusing, mostly due to the ironic nature of the medium used to make it, and the fact that my reading it, making probably equally applicable to both parties, I did find the questioning of my wife's gender both slightly offensive, and possibly dangerous to said poster. Whilst I have been fortuante enough to experience her loving touch, I fear somewhat for those who would provoke her less tender contact. She may not be a kickboxing supermodel, but she ain't far short. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:03:00 - [3] Originally by: Victor Vision Did BoB got more than they bargained for? Check Actually I'd say it fell far short of our expectations. We wanted the most Epic conflict with the greatest superpowers in Eve, but I guess what we ended up fighting is better than nothing. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:05:00 - [4] Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 17:05:52 Originally by: Aneu Angellus You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed. Actually Aneu, I handle the recruitment for BNC, and I am turning away more people than I accept. And no, you aren't getting in, sorry. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:16:00 - [5] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving? Aneu, I am being absolutely straight with you. I have applications for BNC still pending that I haven't got around to, and they are not alts trying to up the numbers. There are lots of people who want to fight with BoB and be part of what is happening, and who can blame them? Win or lose, it is much better to be able to say you were there, taking part in the greatest conflict Eve has ever seen .. quite possibly that any MMOG has ever seen, rather than just sitting on the side-lines and throwing mud on the forums. You might not want to believe it, and it may not suit your agenda, but BNC has more active members now than pretty much any time in the last year. I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:18:00 - [6] Originally by: Yussef I sure hope more alliances have this master plan for us in the future. Don't flatter yourself, the plan wasn't for you - you are just what we had to settle for. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat Does it hurt so much that they'd rather join us than you that you feel you have to post about it? Why yes, yes it would seem it does. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Teabreak That must really suck for you then... you end up having to fight the goons... and still get your butts bounced all round eve! Fortunate then that they are just the rather unpleasant fascade of a rather more capable coalition, otherwise you would be correct, my e-dignity would be in tatters. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Just out of curiosity could you take a screenshot of your applications and blank out the names possibly? Im curious. Aneu Wait. Did you just suggest I edit a screenshot in photoshop and then present it to you as evidence? Do you not see a possible weakness in that logic? Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:21:00 - [10] Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:20:58 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50 Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks. I just got home and caught up with this thread. If your amazing intel was any good whatsoever you would know why what you request would not help either one of us. If your source has not informed you why, I suggest you get someone to apply to BNC and see what happens. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 18:27:00 - [11] Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:26:52 Originally by: Aneu Angellus The screenshot was meant to backup your statements not mine. Its also great to see how the 'pack' mentality still works in bob. You start to hit a sore spot and they just come out of the woodwork. Soon. Aneu If your intel source was any good he would have got you to ask for my eve-mail inbox, because he would have told you that is where applications would be found. You would already know that any applications made without prior approval are deleted as a matter of course. I am starting to think that your intel sucks. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 20:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Hannobaal You mean how your alliance leader has, for reasons of silly pride, concentrated your efforts on the absolutely least strategically important of the 4 fronts, thus allowing for the other fronts to collapse (including your last remaining reasonably sizable ally) which will eventually force you back into Delve to defend your last remaing space and render any and all gains you manage to make in Period Basis completely meaningless? Hey, it's just where the fun fights are right now. If the fun fights dry up, or you guys actually do something meaningful, then I guess we'll give you a little of the attention so so dearly crave. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 20:25:00 - [13] Originally by: Hannobaal You're not as special as you think you are. It is just a different kind of special than the type you are used to being called. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 20:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Cvuos But you behave exactly like every other dying alliance with your freed pos shackles and your redefined goals and your "we only want fun anyway" loss justifications. If it smacks like a duck, loses poses like a duck, redefines goals like a duck.... We should probably consider your words carefully, what with GoonSwarm being the voice of experience in these matters. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 20:37:00 - [15] Originally by: TWD Originally by: mama guru .. Thoraxes fu! Sry TWD, but it was funny. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.03 21:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Fry Fortune Rides bikes in cleisthenes gangs for the k:d ratio and ZOOM fast Your post was great until this bit. This was your downfall. Cleis gangs are definately not joined if you want to improve your K:D ratio. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Hrin So many lies and revisionist history. Wow, you mean there is not only such a thing as objective truth, but that you actually have access to it? :worship: Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:46:00 - [18] Originally by: snerdly You are a pvp organization. pvp organizations want to win. You aren't getting it because you don't want to, not because it isn't clear. PvP organisations want to PvP. That is what they find fun. To a PvP organisation a good fight, win or lose, is far more enjoyable than fueling POS and doing logistics. Winning a fight mitigates your costs, it doesn't increase the excitement of the actual fight. There is no "win Eve" ultimately anyway. You win by having fun. If you can only have fun by winning, then you have already lost. I think you are missing the whole "IT IS A GAME" thing, to get meta. It is a form of entertainment. I don't think you get games. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 01:55:00 - [19] Originally by: Peen Long And what about when you run out of isk and you are losing 90% of the time? Still fun? Are you seriously believing yourself? Ask me in another year. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure

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