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Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.03 04:17:00 - [1] Edited by: Ufl on 03/01/2008 04:18:35 http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com NUEX is going to take its entire operation and put it into public hands. We are removing the collateral system and any transaction processing - placing all the trust in players hands. This should turn out interesting as it is the same concept the EVE game designers have used - which has created for interesting and fun situations. The amount if real life time spent running the project during beta was more than exhausting and something that player brokers should be handling on their own. NEW ADDITIONS! Though they are still under construction they are nearing completion by mid month; Stock Exchange with Player character names listed for transaction purposes. Newswire was updated and so were the forums, everything is readily available as soon as you Sign Up. Logistics Exchange for Haulers to post how often they are available, how much cargo they can haul, and their cost to be hired. Logistics corporations may be found here offering their entire fleet services, and their flat rate's to haul. Create and receive long or short term contracts to find other players who need your services. Industrial Exchange for producers and researchers to offer their services directly to others at set prices. Here a producer could post the potential amount of items they could produce, the time it would take, and their base costs - as well as mineral lists. Mining corporations may be found here posting how much they can mine, refine, and what they charge to sell it - creating a direct business to business relationship between miners and producers. Take a look at the new site setup http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com Sign up and we will soon be offering moderator positions to those who post on the boards and wish to regulate the trades that take place. The broker service may be offered at a later time, and will still allow players to charge a transaction fee if they act as a third party. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.01.03 04:22:00 - [2] Originally by: Ufl NUEX is going to take its entire operation and put it into public hands. We are removing the collateral system and any transaction processing - placing all the trust in players hands. This should turn out interesting as it is the same concept the EVE game designers have used - which has created for interesting and fun situations. The amount if real life time spent running the project during beta was more than exhausting and something that player brokers should be handling on their own. So does this mean that you will generally be trading the same stocks that are offered on the other exchanges? Or is there some special requirement for stocks to be traded on your site?
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.03 04:39:00 - [3] Originally by: Ki Tarra Originally by: Ufl NUEX is going to take its entire operation and put it into public hands. We are removing the collateral system and any transaction processing - placing all the trust in players hands. This should turn out interesting as it is the same concept the EVE game designers have used - which has created for interesting and fun situations. The amount if real life time spent running the project during beta was more than exhausting and something that player brokers should be handling on their own. So does this mean that you will generally be trading the same stocks that are offered on the other exchanges? Or is there some special requirement for stocks to be traded on your site? Any and all shares, no requirements. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.03 04:47:00 - [4] Ufl, you are a man of extremes. Good luck on this new permutation of your exchange. Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.03 05:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Hexxx Ufl, you are a man of extremes. Good luck on this new permutation of your exchange. It works. http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com
Sebastian Draconis	Posted - 2008.01.03 05:09:00 - [6] This is an interesting development I'm liking the logistics/industrial exchange congrats Ufl, you don't fail Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.03 05:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Hexxx Ufl, you are a man of extremes. Good luck on this new permutation of your exchange. It works. It works technically...there's no question of your technical prowess (hard earned from what I understand). The key will be adoption and usage. If your familiar with Metcalf's Law (also called Network Effects), the value of any network (or mechanism which connects people, say, like an Exchange) is exponentially proportional to the number of users connected to that network. This means that the more people utilize your Exchange, the more value that has as a "utility"...which of course would in turn attract even more people. Adoption and usage are key to the overall success of an exchange...if no one uses the exchange, it has no real value to any single user. What you've switched to now; I think it has a better chance of adoption. Time will tell of course, and while I may not agree with you on everything...I am interested to see how this turns out. Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
Ki Tarra Caldari Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.01.03 05:18:00 - [8] Originally by: Sebastian Draconis congrats Ufl, you don't fail yet However, seriously, like Hexxx said, opening up to trading existing stocks will help your chances for adoption, as that will be the key to your success. I also like the work you are putting into offering a venue for more dealing than just stock trades. The link for "Research Stocks" looks like it could have some huge potential. If you put in the time and effort to add the extra value of a one-stop-shop for researching the investments traded on the exchange with IPO or recent updates copied to your site, it could give you the start of a competive edge over the existing exchanges. It looks like your site is still under constructions, but atleast now your direction looks plausable. I am interested to see how things work out for you. Good luck.
Lady Centrina	Posted - 2008.01.03 05:27:00 - [9] Ok, I signed up but everything I click on it says access denied By the way, its with a throw away alt with a throw away email address, I am not letting you get to much personal info.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.03 05:28:00 - [10] Originally by: Ki Tarra Originally by: Sebastian Draconis congrats Ufl, you don't fail yet However, seriously, like Hexxx said, opening up to trading existing stocks will help your chances for adoption, as that will be the key to your success. I also like the work you are putting into offering a venue for more dealing than just stock trades. The link for "Research Stocks" looks like it could have some huge potential. If you put in the time and effort to add the extra value of a one-stop-shop for researching the investments traded on the exchange with IPO or recent updates copied to your site, it could give you the start of a competive edge over the existing exchanges. It looks like your site is still under constructions, but atleast now your direction looks plausable. I am interested to see how things work out for you. Good luck. Thanks workin hard over here, tendons are killing me. Definately taking suggestions on the Research, what fundementals would you like to see listed about corps? http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.01.03 05:42:00 - [11] Originally by: Lady Centrina By the way, its with a throw away alt with a throw away email address, I am not letting you get to much personal info. This sums up the ongoing difficulty with Ufl and New Con. Each iteration continues with yet another inducement to join but join you must to get any relevance. However as of yet there seems to be little disclosure as to "who", "how", or "why" to this exchange. The "who" question can't simply continually be labeled the ubiquitous "Nucon Team" as it is constantly reported. Without knowing who has access to information, without knowing who is the wizard(s) behind the curtain (and what magic they can do with or without or knowledge), this exchange will be as useless as having a POS in the city of Oz. And that's just the tip of the iceburg. Might I also add, for a person who spouted pages of unbending resolution you sure have changed your tune in yet another attempt make this exchange work for you. Has this "change of heart" created a realization that some transparency must exist or are you simply just trying to gain "buzz factor" to try to kick start this stillborn effort of yours? Reinvention is all fine and dandy... but are you still the same closed mouth alt who is going to show us how dumb or/and nefarious all of us really are or is this a fundamental change that will be of use? Be interesting to see. "Be all you can be" is a motto even idiots and jerks live up to... all to often.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.01.03 06:17:00 - [12] huh? what? errrr So your veldspar standard crashed and so this is the new incarnation? Well I have had a depressing day of dealing with death dying and dementia, so Ulf I thank you for a well needed chuckle. Good luck, at least this version (is it ver 3.0 or 4.0 now) gets closer to something that might work. Although needing the email address and such, instead of using some ingame method is bound to cause epic loads of fail and mistrust. --
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2008.01.03 06:31:00 - [13] Quote: Although needing the email address and such, instead of using some ingame method is bound to cause epic loads of fail and mistrust Mmmh, this is always something that makes me hesitant, and one of the big things I withdrew from the way I ran Dusk Blade at first, it just smacks too much of phishing. While user-accounts are another pet hate of mine for the same reasons, I accept their necessity in some cases (e.g. eve-central) within game-related applications. I'm slightly refreshed by this effort, think I'll just observe for now still. Improve Market Competition!
Trilori Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs	Posted - 2008.01.03 07:14:00 - [14] Well this does present interesting information, however I'm not letting my guard down. UFL has proven so many alts and has proven unorthodox methods/concepts (hey I'm running my corp in an unorthodox manner as well). I will keep this under observance, I also agree that UFL is persevering so at least he is keeping the community abreast. Good start UFL, this doesn't mean I have changed my mind about you at all.
Richard Kitan United Space Republic Research	Posted - 2008.01.03 14:03:00 - [15] I really do like some of the ideas you've posted - specifically the logistics exchange, however, I think the reputation you have earned from your previous posts here is going to be tough to overcome. Anyway, best of luck to you. -rk -- Richard Kitan Builder of Stuff
Assens Letta Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2008.01.03 14:31:00 - [16] i think youre getting somewhere, you have the perseverance, you have the technical skills, in the event you are truly legit (and i dont think youre a scammer just a bit on the short temper)i think you can do it in time, the last attempts undermine most of the trust you could have mustered by now, i hope this doesnt discourage you and that you achieve the goals you have set yourself to. as for HUNSI, i have registered myself to see how things come along, hope you dont mind that, as for the info provided.... its what it is, its my mail for EvE use.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.03 15:53:00 - [17] I placed the email address there to help deter at least a little bit the chances that someone would sign up under false names - either way you always can work around it and just make a bunch of other email addresses.. I will remove the email addresses and actually attempt to remove any blockage so that this site can be fully available to anyone who instantly signs up. Thanks for the criticism it is helping move this along. Its a new year, I feel ... different in the head. http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com
Asteroid Bandit NOPHEX PRISIM	Posted - 2008.01.03 16:32:00 - [18] So how does NUEX work this time? What are the changes aside form dropping the collateral requirement? Are you acting as 3rd party holding shares or isk in escrow? Is there a listing fee? We are still waiting on word of who your team is. Does your exchange now work by investment dividends or are you still trying to incorporate speculation buying and selling? Please draft a complete proposal detailing how your exchange is supposed to work and what makes it better, more secure, easier to use, etc than the existing methods.
Veefor Veldspar Lonetrek Veldspar Equities	Posted - 2008.01.03 17:24:00 - [19] I haven't looked at the new hotness yet, but in fairness, there does seem to be a 'Nucon Team' of sorts. Ufl seems to be the point man, probably because the others are a little bit shy. That, combined with this latest dramatic reversal, seems to indicate that they are somewhere between old enough to question their assumptions and young enough to yet lack some important savvy. This is a game, after all--if we are playing to learn, we are doing it right. Personally, I was setting up to do a satirical offering on the Veldspar standard, but it seems that won't be necessary. It's starting to look like the venture might get interesting beyond its entertainment value. V.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.03 20:17:00 - [20] Edited by: Ufl on 03/01/2008 20:16:54 NEW CONTENT ADDED The logistics exchange is live and active - go ahead and post what you need hauled, or if you are a hauler post how much you can haul and what your flat rate fee is for fuel, jumps, time etc. Good luck on the bidding! More to come: Industrial Exchange - Post jobs you need completed, how much you will pay, etc. or post how much you charge per job, etc. Miner Exchange - Post how much of certain ores you can produce per day/week/month and charge a flat fee, or post how much ore you are looking for and what you are willing to pay per piece. Corporation Recruitment - Post your corporation and what you do to recruit other players from the New Universe All these exchanges will add up to help create one giant network where miners, haulers, producers, researchers, CEO's can all come together. Sign up today! http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2008.01.03 20:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Ufl The logistics exchange is live and active When I click on the Logistics exchange link, I get a page without any content. Just thought you'd like to know. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.01.03 20:38:00 - [22] /me sigh I see that your still up to your old bait and switch. People are asking valid questions and you still either ignore them or im guessing when the heat picks up a bit, answer them with double speak that isnt even related to the question at hand. If you really expect your public bussiness models to be successful you really REALLY need to start answering, honestly and directly the most basic of questions that the public is asking you. Otherwise this newest incarnation of NUcon will follow down the path of all previous incarnations, ie. total failure and public ridicule. --
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.03 20:47:00 - [23] Originally by: Balogh Originally by: Ufl The logistics exchange is live and active When I click on the Logistics exchange link, I get a page without any content. Just thought you'd like to know. No one has posted any logistics requests yet thats why. Go ahead and post one it will show up :) http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.03 20:47:00 - [24] Originally by: Asteroid Bandit So how does NUEX work this time? What are the changes aside form dropping the collateral requirement? Are you acting as 3rd party holding shares or isk in escrow? Is there a listing fee? We are still waiting on word of who your team is. Does your exchange now work by investment dividends or are you still trying to incorporate speculation buying and selling? Please draft a complete proposal detailing how your exchange is supposed to work and what makes it better, more secure, easier to use, etc than the existing methods. Its player run. No fee,s no collateral, nothing. Player to player, business to business. http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com
YouGotRipped Gallente Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.01.03 21:17:00 - [25] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 03/01/2008 21:18:42 Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Asteroid Bandit So how does NUEX work this time? What are the changes aside form dropping the collateral requirement? Are you acting as 3rd party holding shares or isk in escrow? Is there a listing fee? We are still waiting on word of who your team is. Does your exchange now work by investment dividends or are you still trying to incorporate speculation buying and selling? Please draft a complete proposal detailing how your exchange is supposed to work and what makes it better, more secure, easier to use, etc than the existing methods. Its player run. No fee,s no collateral, nothing. Player to player, business to business. Riiight... he will provide this service for free at least for a while to get custmers... then he'll charge you hahah And this is not exactly the greatest loss to the customers, Ufl is trying to gain the one thing he desperately needs: your trust. Atta boy Ufl, I eagerly await the time when you decide to cash in on people's trust and run your greatest scam.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.03 21:42:00 - [26] RECRUITMENT CENTER COMPLETE Sign up to list your corporation, or sign up and list that you are seeking a corporation! Enjoy, a lot more to come! http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.01.03 22:33:00 - [27] crosspost is bad m'kay --
Asteroid Bandit NOPHEX PRISIM	Posted - 2008.01.03 23:38:00 - [28] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Asteroid Bandit So how does NUEX work this time? What are the changes aside form dropping the collateral requirement? Are you acting as 3rd party holding shares or isk in escrow? Is there a listing fee? We are still waiting on word of who your team is. Does your exchange now work by investment dividends or are you still trying to incorporate speculation buying and selling? Please draft a complete proposal detailing how your exchange is supposed to work and what makes it better, more secure, easier to use, etc than the existing methods. Its player run. No fee,s no collateral, nothing. Player to player, business to business. So once again, details please. If it is player to player then where does your site factor in? Your listings don't provide space for CEOs to detail out their business plans, a crucial component to creating an IPO. Please take a look at the other IPOs and services and draft a proposal so that we don't have to piece together what you are doing over 13 pages of forums like your last several announcements.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Asteroid Bandit Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Asteroid Bandit So how does NUEX work this time? What are the changes aside form dropping the collateral requirement? Are you acting as 3rd party holding shares or isk in escrow? Is there a listing fee? We are still waiting on word of who your team is. Does your exchange now work by investment dividends or are you still trying to incorporate speculation buying and selling? Please draft a complete proposal detailing how your exchange is supposed to work and what makes it better, more secure, easier to use, etc than the existing methods. Its player run. No fee,s no collateral, nothing. Player to player, business to business. So once again, details please. If it is player to player then where does your site factor in? Your listings don't provide space for CEOs to detail out their business plans, a crucial component to creating an IPO. Please take a look at the other IPOs and services and draft a proposal so that we don't have to piece together what you are doing over 13 pages of forums like your last several announcements. Players post something, it says what they posted and their name next to it so you can contact them in game. IPO Center is still under construction. http://www.NewUniverseExchange.com
Assens Letta Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2008.01.04 00:25:00 - [30] i think what asteroid bandit was trying to say is, on the IPO form you can it in form of a template, where there are areas for some informations such as: corp info business plan exit strategy FAQ etc etc, pretty much a general outline of the whole operation and a place for each item in the form (i think HEXX template is the most commonly agreeed upon in MD forum) thanks

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