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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: GM Nova on 03/01/2008 20:26:58
Happy Scrappy New Year dear players.
ItÆs time formally submit the rules for the next Alliance Tournament. After reviewing the rules from the last tournament, we have made some point adjustments and clarifications. The rules are quite similar to last yearÆs tournament as they worked out pretty well for the most part.
The most striking change is disallowing pirate implant sets. This will negate the huge advantage some high grade sets were providing.
Faction battleships have been reduced in price by 5 points. We should now see more faction battleships as well as tech two battleships.
The TotalHellDeath bonus has changed; or rather the requirements have changed, making it harder to get this bonus.
Maximum warp in distance has been shortened to 50km.
Apart from other points adjustments these are the changes that have been made. I hereby submit the 5th Alliance Tournament rules for your review.
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:23:00 -
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:25:00 -
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GM Nova
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:25:00 -
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... and reserved space here....
GM Nova
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.04 10:17:00 -
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Morning all!
I just wanted to throw my hat in the ring and expand a little bit on just *why* rigs are still not in at this point - as this has been very heavily discussed amongst the team. In short - we like the variation and freedom to specialize afforded by rigs, as it draws teams closer to real pvp.
That said - there are some drawbacks to allowing rigs into the tournament - in most cases, rigs serve to draw out fights and possibly make for less expensive-stuff-blowing-up (and we all love seeing that!). Logistics cruisers can take on a whole new meaning when rigged for cap recharge, and of course, you have some rigs that in a tournament setting can make for extremely strong passive tanking, resulting in potential stalemate fights (which are no fun to watch).
On the subject of Implants - it is only the pirate / lp store "sets" that are not allowed. Hardwirings are still fine to use.
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.04 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Mindstar on 04/01/2008 16:31:20
 Originally by: ookke
Looks like you managed to sneak in a typo... last night Logistics Ships were 21 points, now they are 31 pts suddenly.
Stealth nerf....  just kidding, they should be 21 
Anyhow, another change that should have been in those rules, but was overlooked in the initial post is that Boosters are allowed. The rules have been updated to reflect this now.
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.04 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: ookke
what about hardwirings and mindlinks - will they be allowed?
Yes.
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.04 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Saba Quiestador
Questions:
1) How do we sign up? How do we provide the 1B ISK entry fee?
2) When do the elimination rounds start (approximate timeframe - e.g., "early March")? When will the actual schedule be posted, relative to the start of the elimination rounds (e.g., "two weeks before the start of the tournament")?
3) What are the prizes? Is there only a prize for the winner, or intermediate prizes as well (e.g., for going on to the elimination rounds, for getting to the semifinals, whatever)?
By the way, as a comment to the person thinking about Golems... Look at their sensor strength, and remember that they are not intended as PvP ships.
Sign up procedure, prizes and such have not been announced just yet, but are not far off. Keep an eye on the news and on this forum for more info regarding them.
As per the dev blog here, the dates at this point are the first 2 weekends in March (starting 29th Feb). In past tournaments the final day has been the day of the elimination rounds, and this tournament is not likely to change from that.
Hope that helps 
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.04 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mindstar
Originally by: Saba Quiestador
Questions:
1) How do we sign up? How do we provide the 1B ISK entry fee?
2) When do the elimination rounds start (approximate timeframe - e.g., "early March")? When will the actual schedule be posted, relative to the start of the elimination rounds (e.g., "two weeks before the start of the tournament")?
3) What are the prizes? Is there only a prize for the winner, or intermediate prizes as well (e.g., for going on to the elimination rounds, for getting to the semifinals, whatever)?
By the way, as a comment to the person thinking about Golems... Look at their sensor strength, and remember that they are not intended as PvP ships.
Sign up procedure, prizes and such have not been announced just yet, but are not far off. Keep an eye on the news and on this forum for more info regarding them.
As per the dev blog here, the dates at this point are the first 2 weekends in March (starting 29th Feb). In past tournaments the final day has been the day of the elimination rounds, and this tournament is not likely to change from that.
Hope that helps
We are creating the signup page. We will try to have the system deduct the signup fee from the executor when he signs up. Hopefully the signup page will be up before the end of next week.
Regarding implants; Only faction implant sets are disallowed. Normal implants, cosmos, hardwiring and mindlinks are totally allowed.
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CCP Sharkbait
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Posted - 2008.01.07 19:43:00 -
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i have changed Nova's post to state boosters are not allowed, but were thinking about allowing them once th fight starts then it's allowed to use boosters. this is still not decided, but open for talk.
as regards penalties.
last year there was a few people who had modules that was not allowed. in that case we simply convo'ed the player and gave him 2 choices. have us remove the module and allow him/her to continue or leave the fight. once we remove the module you will not be given it back. the same applies this year, anyone caught with an illegal module will either lose the module or be removed from the fight, the choice is upto the player.
because were not allowing some implants and boosters this year, i will also be scanning for them. anyone with an illegal implant or a booster installed will be removed from the fight, no options given as removing implants or boosters from people can cause delays and work we do not need. if a player is removed, no replacement will be allowed.
now for disqualifications. last time a few alliances was disqualified and we don't really want to do that, so were going be more harsh with the point penalties. but we will disqualify if needed or people continue to break rules. this time there is a group that will handle punishments and make any decisions needed, they are the following people :
- Me
- GM Nova
- GM Xamother
- Mindstar
and as we like to keep local free of chat, unless you are answering a question from a CCP employee you are not allowed to speak in local. you will face a 5 point per line penality. i have a small chat window, so 2 letters is 1 line...
this time there will be no changing times of fights. it was mainly our fault last time, but we have corrected that and we will not need to this time. any player requests to move times will be denied sry.
i will start to follow this tpic, so please ask if there is any questions
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CCP Sharkbait
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Posted - 2008.01.07 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: DarkLord SolidLine
is the sign up still off ? wen we sign up ? will be a new topic about it ? or just a link on this topic ?
there will be a sign up page made available once we have the dates set in stone. we have another meeting about this tomorrow at 13:00gmt and hopefully we will have the final date then. i will keep you posted about this.
Originally by: Syberbolt8
I'm happy to see boosters where removed for the time being, and there use shouldn't be allowed, its to much of a risk vs reward for the possible side effects. On one hand if the booster has little or no side effect then that team gets a much better chance of winning, but if the boosters have bad side effects then they have a much better chance of losing.
Allowing the power of the battle to sway with just the use of a booster is crazy. Add to this that boosters are a lot harder to come by then most other things like implants, (no I don't want pirate implants) or rigs of that matter.
Allow the use of only t1 rigs, every alliance that can front 1 bil isk to even be in this should be able to afford to fit there ships with t1 rigs, and rigs are a lot more balanced in terms of being fair towards everyone in the fight. They are also much easier to get, and there bonus while still effecting the battle wont be random.
Saying that, can't wait to see this start up, just my .02 isk.
i agree on the boosters. i also wanted to see T1 rigs in only, but we had a meeting about this today and they managed to talk me out of them. we don't want to see all tanks and long boring fights, we want to see fight with lots of pew pew, i hate your mother, die ***** etc etc. not anything upto 20 ships sitting tanking for the duration of the fight hoping that the other side will get bored and leave.
i personally liked the tournament last year without rigs and i enjoyed watching the fights. i want to keep it the same this year :)
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CCP Sharkbait
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Posted - 2008.01.08 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sloth Arnini
There is some confusion in my alliance about what you mean when you say team captains must be pre announced.
Am I right in thinking that the captain must be announced before the torunament and that this captain must be present at every fight?
basically we need a point of contact. ideally the same person all through the tournament, but i know thats not always possible. i will poke Nova on msn to reply to the thread about this.
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.08 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
Originally by: Sloth Arnini
There is some confusion in my alliance about what you mean when you say team captains must be pre announced.
Am I right in thinking that the captain must be announced before the torunament and that this captain must be present at every fight?
basically we need a point of contact. ideally the same person all through the tournament, but i know thats not always possible. i will poke Nova on msn to reply to the thread about this.
Sharkbait is right. The captain is our contact to the team. If it absolutely essential, a team may announce a new captain and needs to do so 24 hours in advance, at least.
GM Nova
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: URDEAD2ME
erm any news when we can sigh up yet ?
Not yet. We will make a separate post in this forum with sign up details when we have more info available.
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GM Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: URDEAD2ME
erm any news when we can sigh up yet ?
Yes. Here it is.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=678994
In short,
Signups are opened, 14. january 2008 at 1100 hrs. EVE time.
GM Nova
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.09 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: SoMoSo
so Alliance leader have to donate one billion ISK and give a Team Leader Name ? or he have to say the names of the players from team to ? i will be the Leader for Phalanx Team and i will be the contact man for PA Alliance do we have to tell you the players theat will fight in the tornament in the Sign up ?
As per the rules: "Alliances can field up to ten pilots on the battlefield. The team captain has to be announced beforehand. Any alliance member can fight at any time."
So, in the signups, just the team captain.
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.09 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: QwaarJet
Originally by: GM Nova
Originally by: URDEAD2ME
erm any news when we can sigh up yet ?
Yes. Here it is.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=678994
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Signups are opened, 14. january 2008 at 1100 hrs. EVE time.
So I'm guessing from that that signups close on the 14th, and then the groups will be announced very soon after that?
The closing date of the signups is not decided at this point, and will most likely be announced when the signup page is up. At this point we just want to give as much warning as possible to those who want to be assured a spot - instead of just saying "Oh hi, by the way, signups are open!".
Regarding the announcement of groups and such - we fully understand that there is scheduling involved on the part of teams who wish to compete (especially those who may be fighting on either of the Fridays), and will make sure that the tournament schedule will be made available as soon as we can feasibly get it ready.
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.15 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord
Are faction drones allowed?
They are not modules so are not covered by 'No faction modules'
And there is a line: 'All drones are allowed'.
However, clarification might be a good thing.
All drones are allowed
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.15 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: Cividari
Yes, but if you only field 99 points you are giving the other team one point, I would like it to be clearified if that still counts as a "perfect win".
If it's the same as last tournament, as I recall, you'll receive 150 points and your opponents will receive 1 point.
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Pilk is correct. If (for example) you field 99 points worth of ships, you can still get the 150 points by killing the entire enemy team for no ship loss.
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.01.17 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
pirate implant sets are not allowed, if i dont have a set ... say i dont have the alpha plugged in then technically its not a set?... so i could use them? 
By "Pirate Implant Sets not allowed" we mean no implants from those sets at all, so no. I will get the rules adjusted to clarify this.
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2008.02.25 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Holdvilag Sally
Dear organizers,
can you please assign a point value to covert ops frigs? I hope you understand why I am posting this with a noob alt :)
Covert Ops Frigates are allowed, and cost the same as Interceptors & Assault frigates - 6 points.
The covert ops cloak module (or any cloak for that matter) is not allowed.
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