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Dandrenn
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:53:00 -
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First, in terms of your preference of how the ship looks. (of the 2 of each race)
Then in terms of which one do you believe is better. (of the 2 of each race)
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:55:00 -
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amarr, it gets infinite nerf darts 
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Samurai 1
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Samurai 1 on 03/01/2008 21:10:10 Depends on what u gonna use it on. Imo Phoenix is best vs caps, Revelation vs POSes and Moros vs sub-caps. Naglfar is a hybrid thingy that I don't quite like at all tbh, but I guess I'll get around at flying one eventually.
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JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:12:00 -
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Amarr - it is the only faction ships I fly besides ORE. I am loyal to my Faction.
Plus, I think they look cooler and I am an Armor Tanker. ________________________
Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet! 
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:18:00 -
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well the caldari thing has one thing going for it, it can one shot a battleship as long as its webbed and target painted.
Other than that, go for the dread that gives you battleship 5 in the race you want, that way the battleship you will be flying 90% of the time will be that much more effective. -------------
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Kiviar
Caldari Vice-Presidential Action Rangers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kiviar on 03/01/2008 21:28:43
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton amarr, it gets infinite nerf darts 
I could never figure out what your ship was shooting... now its painfully obvious.
Now for on topic; The caldari dread, is easily my favorite looking ship in eve. It just radiates the ideal of a warship in a way that no other model in game does.
As for its usability in combat, I'd probably have to go with the Rev. ---
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Jezala
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas well the caldari thing has one thing going for it, it can one shot a battleship as long as its webbed and target painted.
What people keep forgetting to say is that you need to be in siege mode and you have to wait for a 2 min lock before you can 1-shot a BS....not to mention you can only lock up to a maximum of 2 targets at any given time while in siege mode.
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Drone Whisperer
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Posted - 2008.01.03 23:11:00 -
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Lithalnas, LOLOL, Awesome siggy!!
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.03 23:17:00 -
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If I could, this very instance, have all the appropriate skills for one of these two dreadnoughts, I would choose the Amarr. Why? Ammunition. Most often you'll be using your dreadnought to shoot POSs, and it's probably a pain in the rectum trying to supply dreads with ammunition. ---
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:15:00 -
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Amarr for looks alone (pimp)
Amarr for pos and other capital engagements (no ammo needed)
Moros if you want to solo pwn smaller ships as well as pos and other caps. But fitting ammo and stront can be an issue.
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Gamesguy on 04/01/2008 02:29:57 Phoenix is a superior ship. Ability to change damage type is very important for POS sieges, and phoenix is simply better than the rev at capital engagements. Rev has a slightly tougher tank, although this might not be true anymore since the capital shield booster buff. All in all, phoenix is better, but not by much. The revelation is a very solid dread.
However, the chimera/wyvern sucks compared to archon/aeon, therefore I'd advise amarr.
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Niques Leutre
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dandrenn First, in terms of your preference of how the ship looks. (of the 2 of each race)
Then in terms of which one do you believe is better. (of the 2 of each race)
I love how he asks he asks about looks before combat performance.  ___________________________________
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David Khan
War Crimes
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Posted - 2008.01.04 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dandrenn First, in terms of your preference of how the ship looks. (of the 2 of each race)
Then in terms of which one do you believe is better. (of the 2 of each race)
Ship looks have nothing to do with eve.
Secondly, while the phoenix can choose its damage type and hit battleships more heavily, the Revelation has a far stronger tank, and no need to reload, not to mention an amazing DPS against posses when fitted correctly.
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Phoenicia
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2008.01.04 06:59:00 -
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One Phoenix please, to be squadded with a variety of recons (among which Huginn/Rapier with webs & painters).
Citadel ROF == Shipkills
Originally by: Orebuster I thought EVE was about self determination and responsibility.
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 07:11:00 -
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Edited by: Gamesguy on 04/01/2008 07:11:38
Originally by: Phoenicia One Phoenix please, to be squadded with a variety of recons (among which Huginn/Rapier with webs & painters).
Citadel ROF == Shipkills
Not really true anymore. 50 second locktime in siege+only 2 targets locked effectively neutered the phoenix as a BS killer.
Quote: the Revelation has a far stronger tank
Phoenix tank can be just as strong as a rev.
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Willy Joe
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Posted - 2008.01.04 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy Edited by: Gamesguy on 04/01/2008 07:11:38
Originally by: Phoenicia One Phoenix please, to be squadded with a variety of recons (among which Huginn/Rapier with webs & painters).
Citadel ROF == Shipkills
Not really true anymore. 50 second locktime in siege+only 2 targets locked effectively neutered the phoenix as a BS killer.
Quote: the Revelation has a far stronger tank
Phoenix tank can be just as strong as a rev.
For short amounts of time. Not to mention that shield boosting is a pain while in a big fight.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.04 11:16:00 -
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Actually, the Phoenix seems to outtank the Revelation by quite a bit. Mind, these are EFT numbers, and the Phoenix has to manually manage its cap while the Revelation can fire and tank straight through even in siege unless NOS'd, but I see here an about 40% advantage for the Phoenix in terms of continually sustained HP/s.
Of course, in the real game, lag could put quite a dent into the Phoenix's tank stability, due to the need to turn the booster off and on to maintain the best possible cap recharge rate. It also has a slight thermal resist hole, which might come up when fighting carriers (tank vs. hybrids or lasers is still strong though, and other Phoenixes lose DPS if they switch away from kinetic, so the end result is likely the same).
Both ships were set up using navy and b-type complex faction gear, and no damage mods.
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sleepyhead87
Caldari Modesitt Legacies
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Posted - 2008.01.04 16:37:00 -
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Lol Ishina, I love your sig, the one where they have that scale map of how much land was retaken..
P.S. How do you get your sig to cycle like that? Everytime I refresh I see a different one....h4x! It's not your SP I'm afraid of, It's your ship.
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Jim Steele
Dead By Dawn
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Posted - 2008.01.04 17:00:00 -
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Does EFT tell you how long a bay full of capital torps last? Id go Revalation simply to avoid resupply logistics, deep in enemy teritory thats a great advantage.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.04 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: sleepyhead87 Lol Ishina, I love your sig, the one where they have that scale map of how much land was retaken..
P.S. How do you get your sig to cycle like that? Everytime I refresh I see a different one....h4x!
It's a sig rotator script. This one's hosted on the IRON server I think, but EVE-Files also has a rotator service that you can use for your own.
Originally by: Jim Steele Does EFT tell you how long a bay full of capital torps last? Id go Revalation simply to avoid resupply logistics, deep in enemy teritory thats a great advantage.
Doesn't tell, no, but I'd say it's easily enough enough for a proper siege. Never flown a dread in my life though, don't regard me as any authority just because I make educated guesses at reality by looking at the theory 
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Dexton
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.04 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Steele Does EFT tell you how long a bay full of capital torps last? Id go Revalation simply to avoid resupply logistics, deep in enemy teritory thats a great advantage.
Have you ever been in ever been in a pos siege? ammo is the least of the logistical problem. The pheonix will actually last longer with its extra 2250m3. Fyi thats enough space for 15hours of citadel torps spewing or 2 more cycles of stront over the rev.
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