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Arbitrus Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.04 20:49:00 - [31] me and my old corp were in FLA for about 10months i think, from the NFC war to where MC came and busted our balls for a while. I think the name FLA should be left down, and a new name cast up. Yeah, there were some probs with leadership, and some of the members were complete ********s, but the people that did do good things were great at them (Slinktress and LoQ, KVEC, DI-TRON, and some others i cant remember) But, if you came back as FLA, Good luck guys, and it'd be groovy to fly around with ya o7 slinktress btw ----------------------------------------------- Come Home with your shield, or come home on it. Signature dimensions exceeds max 400x120 dimensions allowed. Mail us if you have any questions -Targoviste
Omeega UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.04 21:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Galavet Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Galavet Originally by: Ventro69 I heard good things, can always do worse: Kill On Site... I think Smash trumps KOS when it comes to the doing worse part.... galavet, Rise. Nah, I think Smash still wins here. let's make them fight in an arena, part of the plan anyways amiright? :) Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Galavet Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.04 21:42:00 - [33] Originally by: Omeega let's make them fight in an arena, part of the plan anyways amiright? :) If the arena is called Thunderdome, then the plan has gone exactly as I have predicted. Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
Rashka Fireball Amarr Bellum Aeternus	Posted - 2008.01.04 21:53:00 - [34] If they can save some isk by using the already existing FLA alliance name, then do so. New name or old name, it's the people in the alliance that make it good or bad. It's about practicalities, not emotion.
Laboratus Gallente BGG Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:44:00 - [35] I was there from early on, all the way from Vale of the silent to almost the end. I will put a few points of constructive critisism here. Succeses of the alliance Great ppl. The ppl were the heart of the alliance. Great ideals. Brilliant gateway for new 0.0 players. Absolutely splendid market with good competition. Downsides Stagnancy. The alliance was very defensive, and outgoing roming pvp etc was discouraged, instead of encouraged and that lead to a constant stream of pvp players leaving the alliance. In the end the alliance had a massive playerbase but very few FCs. Use of resources. Space was theoretically owned by the alliance, but moons were owned by individuals without the alliance getting benefit from their use. Communication. Too few ppl knew what was going on and communication with friends and allies was too rare and difficult. Quite a few corps left because they were not happy with how things were handeled but didn't really express what they wanted before leaving. Leadership. While the people were great, the leadership did not provide a vision or direction for the alliance after the move into deklein and that lead to a general lack of motivation and reduced activity. Every time it was a matter of survival, everyone would spring into action, but without external pressure and a lack of clear leadership the alliance started to divide into factions. Ok, o-2. But that did not involve too many people. Keep the pros, work on the cons and you can make it work. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Oli4Oli4 Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:52:00 - [36] Angel is giving us orders on TS to troll this post. Soon we will be better at forum spawn then the gooons!
Gazmus The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:53:00 - [37] angel wants FLA back ♥ the end
Pistonbroke D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:54:00 - [38] Hell yes, bring them back. Fleet battles vs FLA are one of my fondest memories in this big shooting gallery that is EvE. At leaset FLA brought it... even when outgunned.... they fought Mind u, maybe it didn't do them that many favors.............
Goca KAOS. Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.01.05 01:26:00 - [39] Originally by: Roupeh Natanoj its funny how peeps here mock FLA when some of the greater powerhouse of eve speak only good thing for FLA. eh peeps just trying to look tuff eh. man if ya go ahead hope it all goes well. injoyed the time TOS was in FLA. little reminder wich alliance fought MC for the longest ? in the north i arrest my case Only one reason that happened, ol' Bobby was there... without his tenacity, knowledge and the ability to stay online for 25 hours in a day :), you guys would not have lasted a day.. so stop kidding yourselves.. let it die
coldkill Gallente legion of qui	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:07:00 - [40] Edited by: coldkill on 05/01/2008 02:10:30 A lot of people put effort into the defence of Deklein, not just Bobby Atlas. He did do a lot, but others were there as well doing just as much. Also: "character and corp names are irrelevant at this point". Yes people put in work into the alliance, but the OP was asking if the name FLA should start anew or if it should be left as it is (dead). Coldkill
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 02:52:00 - [41] Originally by: coldkill A lot of people put effort into the defence of Deklein, not just Bobby Atlas. He did do a lot, but others were there as well. Yes, but you were not one of those. ________________________________________
coldkill Gallente legion of qui	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:42:00 - [42] Edited by: coldkill on 05/01/2008 03:46:09 Edited by: coldkill on 05/01/2008 03:45:03 Originally by: Kerdrak Originally by: coldkill A lot of people put effort into the defence of Deklein, not just Bobby Atlas. He did do a lot, but others were there as well. Yes, but you were not one of those. Actually yes I was. I was one of the few Fleet Commanders left in FLA when MC hit us fully and we lost 3JN9-Y. I even led gangs with Bobby Atlas in them, so yeah, I was "one of those" helping in the defence of FLA and Deklein. I was there until the very end when MC dropped their capital fleet and reinforced all our towers. Coldkill
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 04:30:00 - [43] Sup people. Dont know where to start on this one Yes graalum is right, not gettin my ass back. Having too much fun with SK/chaos to leave. The same can be said of a lot of the players that made FLA what it was ( a group of stubborn carebears with nasty pointy sticks) Its imposible to get such a motley crew together as we once had. Gokil for his "upfront" comments about tri, my drunken poastins, Coldkills tireless efforts to turn carebears into fighters, Rev's constant screwing everything up and bobbys effective do what needs to be done and if it ***es off the leadership, thats an added bonus;attitudes. So what do we do? do we retire the name and remember the good times? Do we dwell on the mistakes? Do we try and get everyone back together (not gonna happen). I say no. The memories we all have of our time in there or fighting us, are all but memories. some good, some bad but all a good time. I say start anew. Those that wish to rejoin the alliance should. The alliance itself needs to find its own new dastommys/gokills/bobby atlas's/kerdraks. Find a home in 00. Become residents of another stronger power wishing to help FLA regrow and to stand beside her in her development. Recruit new corps and new players and give FLA a new face. That is what i wish to see my alliance do. My greatest times in eve were spent in FLA but i have moved on to another entity. Atlas rocks plus the 3b guys are teaching me spanish. Yo soy un puta. Well thats my thoughts on this. I would also like to take this oppertunity to say hi to my ex alliance mates. Wether your blue, red or nuetral; its always nice to see you in local chat. o7 ps: angel is ex-FLA, not only that but she was also part of NFC and merged into FLA same time as me. Ragging carebear. the whole i like to pvp thing is a lie. pps:boobs I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])*
duckmonster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.05 07:22:00 - [44] Edited by: duckmonster on 05/01/2008 07:23:05 Almost every time when you try to reform a dead alliance, you end up with some sort of brain damaged flipper-baby version of the original. Take Goonfleet. For all purposes, the reformed Goonsquad. Its like 3000 guys, each dumber than the rest , somehow. Its awesome. -----------
kranarrk	Posted - 2008.01.05 08:33:00 - [45] fla are great guys. Would love to see a resurgent fla.
arthell legion of qui	Posted - 2008.01.05 09:19:00 - [46] Burn Eden gank squads and Tri fleet battles are some of my best Eve moments to date.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.01.05 10:34:00 - [47] It's always good to see old alliances back on the block.
Jean Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.05 10:50:00 - [48] Originally by: Oli4Oli4 Angel is giving us orders on TS to troll this post. Soon we will be better at forum spawn then the gooons! angel should stick to what shes good at... ask almost any male member in UDIE... lulz
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 12:15:00 - [49] Originally by: coldkill Actually yes I was. I was one of the few Fleet Commanders left in FLA when MC hit us fully and we lost 3JN9-Y. I even led gangs with Bobby Atlas in them, so yeah, I was "one of those" helping in the defence of FLA and Deklein. I was there until the very end when MC dropped their capital fleet into O-2RNZ and reinforced all our towers. No, you only was an FC with no clue, that threatened people of your own gang (even shooting them ), with pathetic strategies and ridiculous rules like blowing wrecks (well, cans in that times) to not letting ppl to loot them (only you could loot the cans). Yeah, making people not joining your gangs (actually, more people joined my daily roaming gangs than your defense fleets) because you were an ******* was a real help for the defense, you are a hero . ________________________________________
Samiloth Justinian legion of qui	Posted - 2008.01.05 12:58:00 - [50] Old FLA members (on both sides of the fence), what’s going on with all the bitterness!? That’s a rhetorical question, no drama queen acts or self-righteous rants about how good and right you are is needed, nor is a demonizing sermon. I came to respect many corps and pilots during my time in FLA, there were many great people in that alliance. Why are such pilots resorting to bitter petty bickering every time FLA is mentioned on the forum? It’s kind of depressing. I don’t like it and I doubt you. I have plenty of memories I cherish from my time in FLA, and more then a few memories that are not so positive in nature. How about we all play the game and move forward instead of bickering about the past? :)
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 13:14:00 - [51] Originally by: Samiloth Justinian Old FLA members (on both sides of the fence), whatÆs going on with all the bitterness!? ThatÆs a rhetorical question, no drama queen acts or self-righteous rants about how good and right you are is needed, nor is a demonizing sermon. I came to respect many corps and pilots during my time in FLA, there were many great people in that alliance. Why are such pilots resorting to bitter petty bickering every time FLA is mentioned on the forum? ItÆs kind of depressing. I donÆt like it and I doubt you. I have plenty of memories I cherish from my time in FLA, and more then a few memories that are not so positive in nature. How about we all play the game and move forward instead of bickering about the past? :) I respect many people of FLA. Only I have something personal with a few members/ex-members. Nothing more, nothing less. Its only personal from me to others. ________________________________________
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 16:31:00 - [52] You know how i loved to troll Storm Armada, well Kerdrak loves to troll certain members of FLA. Good times I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])
coldkill Gallente legion of qui	Posted - 2008.01.05 16:43:00 - [53] heh this thread is getting quite funny. I'd say "proof or stfu" but meh, I don't really care what misconstrued memories and opinions you have of me. Coldkill
RemusVI Gallente Legion Federation	Posted - 2008.01.05 16:44:00 - [54] Well from my side FLA is was a great friendly Alliance , they also help us re-build and grant us residential status in their homes , we did our best to fight alongside FLA against MC but we were hugely outnumberd against a much More experienced foe the MC , but anyways we did fight battles as many as we could and try and win as many as possible but then in the end MC cap ship fleet was the biggest at that moment ..it wa sa juggenaught that cudnt be stopped but FLA honour is intact in my opinion to fight till the end and never give up even Titans were thrown but yet FLA stood and fought until the final outpost went down much respect to FLA guys though it was sad to c it go down but i see a good chance of them coming back with more Power and Unity this time and one the things wich makes FLA great is they are always friendly thats why i always support FLA . Good People , Good People Friends Forever! and hi Slink i just came back after 7 months of in-activity would be happy to see guys back in action! LEGION FEDERATION "We beleive in Vigilence ,Federalism and Freedom" President Of The Council and Fleet Admiral: Admiral RemusVI
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 17:22:00 - [55] Originally by: coldkill heh this thread is getting quite funny. I'd say "proof or stfu" but meh, I don't really care what misconstrued memories and opinions you have of me. I don't need proofs, you know better than me what I'm saying . Anyways, if you want proofs, you can come for them, I will show you a lot of proofs ________________________________________
WraithFire Cassandra's Light Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.05 18:09:00 - [56] I fought with FLA against MC and saw FLA's valor and honor againsts a much determined and experienced foe, so let's just leave it at that.
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2008.01.05 18:16:00 - [57] Let the name die and create a new alliance. I'm not bitter, but the alliance wouldn't be what it was (even if it wasn't great). __________________
Egne Ver Caldari The Reckoning	Posted - 2008.01.06 05:01:00 - [58] Yea, and make Rev Duck the president again, that was also a great demonstration on how to lose the few pvpers you have while **ing off the people tring to save you alliance. I think Evil Thug said it best "DIE" Originally by:** CCP kieron If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests. i.e. If you dont like it quit
Cockroach Amarr Kinetic Vector Ka-Tet	Posted - 2008.01.06 12:04:00 - [59] Bring back FLA....Nice idea but i dont think it would work. Maybe under a different Alliance name with the same honest and integrity attitudes but with different goals. with less of trying to make everyone blue and more of join us or die approach.......Nah it would never work. Keeping the pillion seat on the Harley warm for ya Slink (Firefly) Mal: See, this is a sign of your tragic space dementia. All paranoid and crotchety, it breaks the heart.
Raketefrau Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.07 04:19:00 - [60] Originally by: Galavet If the arena is called Thunderdome, then the plan has gone exactly as I have predicted. Can't we just get beyond Thunderdome? Slinktress alt posts ftw. signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected]) <--- I've emailed 5 times now. No answer.

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