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Commander BroudMoore
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
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Posted - 2008.01.04 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: L70Rogue
Originally by: Riho
Originally by: L70Rogue Edited by: L70Rogue on 04/01/2008 07:22:21
Originally by: Riho 1st... to get theyr ships like that they have to spend alot more than you ship costs. they came whit a few ppl... that means they are frined/corp mates... mybe you should get those too and fight back ?? but no... you are whineing that you cant solo a gang of ppl..
Ok I lost to a gang of people, but one doesn't even have a fighting chance in a battleship against t2 cruisers and frigs? They weren't getting hit for ANY damage.
battleships are not solopwn mobiles.... they need support. if you had a friend in a rapier/huginn/ceptor whit a web.... this would have been something else....
and allso.... the drake pilot whit you... why didnt he use precision heavys(unless he was a low skilled pilot ofc)
Precision heavy missiles will do very very little damage to anything that is above 5000m/sec... explosion velocity of 1500m/sec with max skills...
so Im a bit confused, if they were going that fast how did they do damage to YOU And now you are supposed to say " but that Ishtar and its nasty drones ..." , SHOOT the bloody drones, it can only have so many in its bay and once they are destroyed theres no damage left 
Just start using your brain people 
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Commander BroudMoore
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu
Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: Fedman Kasad
* YOU CAN'T HIT VERY VERY FAST SHIPS WITH MISSILES, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HIT YOU BACK EITHER.
What if the very very fast ships are themselves using missiles?
Name one?
I could imagine using nano's on a Sacrilege, dont know how well it would actually work though. (call me a noob) 
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Commander BroudMoore
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Originally by: Commander BroudMoore stuff...
There is a ship called a nano ishtar... you know, that ship that lets its drones do damage while orbiting you nanoed.
Nano curse springs to mind, as Launcher/Drone nano curse was very common before nerf.
Basically Nanos are being abused by those that "drink potion of invulnerbility" that is called MWD on a nano ship.
You do realize that both ships you used as reference use drones as their primary source for damage, dont you? Im sure you do. From your reply though I've come to the conclusion that you dont have any idea how easy drones really are to kill . Granted, Curse (being one of ship you mentioned) can use missiles, though if someone bothers to bring enough of them the get thru a BS or even BC tank with those missiles alone they deserve to get that kill. 
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Commander BroudMoore
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Originally by: Commander BroudMoore more stuff ...
The point is that someone shooting a missile at a Nanoship does 0 damage. The Nanoship could be a nanosacriledge. It could be a Launcher Curse. It could be a nano Cerb. It coculd even be any of those rocket/missile cepters and dictors.
Tell me why people use Nano ishtars if shooting drones was so easy? I dont know about you, but most Amarr ships cannot even track drones so how do you expect it to kill them off?
The point of a nanogang is exactly the same as those who used to use WCS. Risk free PvP.
Like already said, Curse wouldnt get too much DPS out of its missile and fitting Heavy Missile Launchers instead of HAM's on Sac. would seriously GIMP its damage output and again you would need a lot of them to do anything. What comes to nanoing a Cerb, why dont you try out and tell us how it went after few ship losses 
Now, I dont mean to offend anyone but this has to be said. Nano Ishtar/Curce/Pilgrim/[enter your nano drone ship here] only works becose A) some nooblets panic or dont know how to shoot drones and B) there might be many ships using drones in the same gang in which case the fact that gang is nanoed doesnt really matter anymore.
Regarding your statement that Amarr ships cant track drones, well I never got any problem in my geddon, just WEB and put your turrets and your own drones on them. They do go down pretty fast. 
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