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Torryn Vale
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:39:00 -
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Ive played the tutorial a few times over the years and never ran into problems such as these!!
Im in game for literally 20 minutes. Its time to do the first combat tutorial mission.
Aura tells me to undock and warp to location in space.
Upon arrival, i recieve a stack of ammo. However, ive been given no guns to load the ammo. The "help" in rookie chat told me to destroy my ship and get a new one and it would have required weapons that i need and i must have found a "bug".
I destroy the ship, get a new one. Then i find out that the ammunition Aura is telling me to load doesnt even fit in a civilian gun (on the tutorial mind you, 2nd mission).
So im instructed to attack this large gas container or something so i attack and shoot for what feels like two years untill the thing explodes. Im then told the explosion damaged my ship and i should use the supplied repair module to fix it.
There is no repair module. Ive been given nothing. Its not at the station either.
And the only thing the ISD bot ingame could tell me was to check my assets it must be in another location.
Hello? Ive just started playing. I dont have items located all over the galaxy. I havent even left the sector ive started in. Ive been to a total of 1 station, the starting station.
With starting headaches such as these im suprised people even play at all. Ive played the tutorial before and never ran into these issues. Totally frustrating and ill check back in another few years to see if this game is ready because clearly its just.... not. |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:50:00 -
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ISD are not bots, they are volunteer players.
Admittedly the complexity of the tutorial has made it more prone to missing things and bugs but people like you only seem to pop up maybe once a week or so it seems obviously, while you aren't the only one, the majority of new players aren't running into these issues or have found way around them.
It's cases like yours that have made me wanna try to make a tutorial walk through video series....I just haven't gotten around to doing it yet :3
Sadly I haven't seen the latest version of the tutorial to know half of any of how it's been changed or how it works as opposed to before so I really can't help you :3 The Drake is a Lie |
Torryn Vale
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:58:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:ISD are not bots, they are volunteer players.
Admittedly the complexity of the tutorial has made it more prone to missing things and bugs but people like you only seem to pop up maybe once a week or so it seems obviously, while you aren't the only one, the majority of new players aren't running into these issues or have found way around them.
It's cases like yours that have made me wanna try to make a tutorial walk through video series....I just haven't gotten around to doing it yet :3
Sadly I haven't seen the latest version of the tutorial to know half of any of how it's been changed or how it works as opposed to before so I really can't help you :3
Thanks for replying. I just think i should be more clear; Ive played EVE tutorial quite a few times over the years. Ive never been able to get "hooked" on the game but ive enjoyed myself each time.
I understand the basic mechanics of the game, i really dont *have* to run the tutorial, however.
I chose to run the tutorial to brush up on my skills and refresh memory of the game. I didnt expect it to be riddled with bugs and obviously i chose the wrong race or wrong station or something because many other new players are ingame not experiencing my issues, which makes it 100x more frustrating.
I feel that over time, tutorials should improve, not get worse.
I dont feel my problem is all that complex. The ****very**** first steps in the minmatar combat tutorial are telling you to do things and use items that you do not have. Its not in your ship cargo, the items are also not in the space station cargo hold. They have not been given. You cannot fit ammunition in a civilian gun. It doesnt happen.
These are issues that shouldnt be there in the first place. I apologize if my expectations are too high. |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:07:00 -
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Ya it just might be a specific problem with Minmatar, but of course since only new player see these things they tend to not get reported properly =/
Problem is that while the tutorial has improved in the way it presents information and which information it presents, the method is still a bit flakey and since they keep doing complete revamps the changes are a bit prone to bugs.
This sorta stuff seems to riddle any significant change in EVE but lately CCP has been a crusade fixing things =D The Drake is a Lie |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:53:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Ya it just might be a specific problem with Minmatar
Catastrophic ductape failures suck, but they do happen. Should always carry a few extra roles |
Shi'on Uzuki
Geminous inc Payment Required
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Posted - 2012.02.08 21:36:00 -
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The New Player Experience is something that is, of course, 'new', and is in a constant state of evolution. I can't remember who the dev is who recently posted but he is one of many people on a new team dedicated strictly to the NPE. Right now it's lightyears better than what it use to be, but admittedly it isn't and never ever will be perfect. EVE is too complex to quantify in a brief 20 minute mission chain.
That being said, that's what Rookie chat is there for, that's what the ISD's volunteer to do, and that is absolutely why we're here on the forums!
I really am sorry that things are rather frustrating for you right now, and if you shout out in Help while I'm on I'm pretty much always in that channel and will do everything I can to help you with your specific problem of the moment. |
Cane Nerdherder
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.08 23:28:00 -
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Well i just started today and had no problems completeing the tutorial misisons.
All the items were available when the tutorial said they would be and most things were pretty simple. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:09:00 -
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Cane Nerdherder wrote:Well i just started today and had no problems completeing the tutorial misisons.
All the items were available when the tutorial said they would be and most things were pretty simple. the force is strong with this one a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Adonae Satori
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.09 03:37:00 -
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As a trial junkie myself (have been since the beta) i feel for the op, even now all these years later the tutorial is a collossal mess. There have been the odd improvements but overall it's got feck all to do with a "difficult learning curve" and more to do with p-i-s-s poor design.
No matter what arc you choose it's all exactly the same with exactly the same prizes and can be beyond tedious...quite frankly the whole thing needs chopping up and streamlining badly! |
Torryn Vale
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.09 04:39:00 -
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Edited |
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Shi'on Uzuki
Geminous inc Payment Required
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Posted - 2012.02.09 06:22:00 -
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Torryn Vale wrote:Edited;
I made a post earlier because of a bug im getting. Although in my opinion i wasnt rude or "flameful" i still felt maybe i was a bit harsh worded because quite frankly i was frustrated. Ive just returned home from work, cooled off and im going to try again because this game isnt kicking my ass *again*. I find qq posts obnoxious and realize i was quite close.
Anyway, my OP was negative and im generally not a negative person so edited. Apologies.
There is NOTHING WRONG with being frustrated! Everyone in EVE has QQ'd at least once in their lives. Don't feel bad. We're here to help no matter what. |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:43:00 -
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Shi'on Uzuki wrote:Torryn Vale wrote:Edited;
I made a post earlier because of a bug im getting. Although in my opinion i wasnt rude or "flameful" i still felt maybe i was a bit harsh worded because quite frankly i was frustrated. Ive just returned home from work, cooled off and im going to try again because this game isnt kicking my ass *again*. I find qq posts obnoxious and realize i was quite close.
Anyway, my OP was negative and im generally not a negative person so edited. Apologies. There is NOTHING WRONG with being frustrated! Everyone in EVE has QQ'd at least once in their lives. Don't feel bad. We're here to help no matter what.
I think it's better that he recognized that he said some thing out of frustration that he might not have meant and calmed him self down and tried again ^^ The Drake is a Lie |
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ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:57:00 -
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Hey Torryn Vale,
I would like to know more about the bug that your encountering as we are trying to help out to see where the issues are in the Tutorials and where there aren't. I know it can become frustrating when something says happens and it does not happen. We do our best to work out the problems that happen within the Rookie Help and Help channels. We are here to help all rookies and older members learn as well as give advice in what is happening.
I know EVE can seem very difficult and there is a lot to learn but we are here to help you out as well as other players.
Here are a few wiki links(if you haven't looked at them already) that could help you out.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Help_Channel_FAQ http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Making_ISK http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:New_Player_Experience http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Pilot_101
You are always welcome to mail me personally if you have questions that you might have.
Fly safe o/ Athechu Lt. Commander ISD STAR (Support Training and Resources) |
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