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Virgil Aquilis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 06:52:00 - [91] Edited by: Virgil Aquilis on 02/02/2008 06:52:48 Originally by: Bund In spite of recently reported server troubles, Rho squad remains firmly committed to our goals. assuming that your job is gang-warping afk friendlies straight into a doomsday, yes, Rho is doing quite well. edit: but I think Merch Industrial still has you beat for today. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
pimp dog The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.02.05 14:57:00 - [92] Well now that kos is down to less then 300 people what will happen next. will -A- slow down and let us rebuild slowly under a new alliance, let us keep the last 2 systems we own, or let kos rebuild under kos. out of 4200 man alliance, and now down to less then 300 since -A- started to attack. that just shows everyone in eve that kos did have a bunch of wussies in it. if the corps that were in kos would have worked as a team and fought back against -A- we might have stoped them from taking c3-, but did we? no everyone got scared and ran to empire. ya the taining corp could have shut down the alliance and ran but we didn't because the few corps that are staying till the end wants to fight with the kos ticker and go out with pride knowing that they stayed till the end instead of running. Pimp Dog KOS DIPLOMAT
Blafbeest Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.05 15:02:00 - [93] Edited by: Blafbeest on 05/02/2008 15:06:12 youre wrong, thet already has the majority of its assets safe. In fact it was probably the first corporation that knew in wat danger the alliance as so they secured most of their assets. In 0.0 there is enuff stuff to be operational but not more then that. Cant blame them tbh btw 173 members according to latest figures
Tandori Tanaka Tanaka Stuff and Supplies	Posted - 2008.02.05 15:45:00 - [94] Edited by: Tandori Tanaka on 05/02/2008 15:49:02 KOS is/was the Xelas of the south. Just a bunch of corps that shared the same philosophy of exploiting an 0.0 Area to generate maximum profits. War costs money so the wussies bailed out. /edit Ill bet most of the wussy corps/members are already in an another alliance to continue thier ISK farming gamestyle or atleast look for new opportunities to have an easy living in 0.0 while others fight for them.
Prett	Posted - 2008.02.05 15:56:00 - [95] Omg you dont know what your talking about. Just more bla-bla-bla.
aQurio Infamous Technologies	Posted - 2008.02.05 16:53:00 - [96] Originally by: pimp dog Well now that kos is down to less then 300 people what will happen next. will -A- slow down and let us rebuild slowly under a new alliance, let us keep the last 2 systems we own, or let kos rebuild under kos. out of 4200 man alliance, and now down to less then 300 since -A- started to attack. that just shows everyone in eve that kos did have a bunch of wussies in it. if the corps that were in kos would have worked as a team and fought back against -A- we might have stoped them from taking c3-, but did we? no everyone got scared and ran to empire. ya the taining corp could have shut down the alliance and ran but we didn't because the few corps that are staying till the end wants to fight with the kos ticker and go out with pride knowing that they stayed till the end instead of running. Pimp Dog Thought you were one of the alliance leaders? You have no contact with aAa? She Storm i beleave, a member of your corp was on these very forums telling KOS members to get out of dodge. Old alliance members should have stayed in KOS while living in empire? Sorry to say i would dump that alliance name and start over. Between rumors of plaz being banned for selling isk for RL money and the isk farmer population in KOS or the old population (although there probally is still isk farmers in KOS) that name is toast. As far as your remainding space? It will be interesting to see what aAa does with it, it is after all kind of crap. Maybe they can rent it to KOS.
SirWOLFE Caldari Sphere Systems	Posted - 2008.02.05 17:55:00 - [97] The reason KOS fell was due to very poor leadership, when plaz left and said he would be back it all went down hill from there, the reason no one would fight was cus there was no leadership to lead a fleet. The amount of time i sat in kw or c3 with 50 people in a 5 man gang while everyone hid up and we died. KOS lost 3 carriers due to poor leadership in one night to AAA and one of my old corp members lost one of them. KOS where strong but poor leadership destroyed it all but i do hope AAA let cus hold a little bit of space and rebuild into a tighter small alliance. Sig Removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn ([email protected])
crazyiven Brotherhood of Soban	Posted - 2008.02.05 19:20:00 - [98] Originally by: SirWOLFE The reason KOS fell was due to very poor leadership, when plaz left and said he would be back it all went down hill from there, the reason no one would fight was cus there was no leadership to lead a fleet. The amount of time i sat in kw or c3 with 50 people in a 5 man gang while everyone hid up and we died. KOS lost 3 carriers due to poor leadership in one night to AAA and one of my old corp members lost one of them. KOS where strong but poor leadership destroyed it all but i do hope AAA let cus hold a little bit of space and rebuild into a tighter small alliance. Ill have to call that one. Plaz was there but not as plaz, and noone would listen. Its not just a name but who was behind the name. Ill just leave it at that. We left due to the fact that noone higher up would listen. So now we linger and will be joining someone else with the same thoughts as we have. Let it die...
Force Leap	Posted - 2008.02.05 23:28:00 - [99] I was DD'd in the first KOS vs AAA encounter. I then lost 2 more ships defending C3 when AAA came in and KOS losts the carriers. Mainly it has to be said to lag. I then ganged for every defence and CTA in C3. I took part in the destruction of several Solidus and Stains forces. I was part of the 49- battle only to be ambushed on the way back from helping our allies. We had been in a 30 Ship Roaming Op heading for AAA when the call came to help IAC. Then IAC set KOS red and visited us and we hide! The FCs were unwilling to commit to a battle they could not win. Many of the fleet wanted to fight pointing out that even if we lost inflicting damage on the enemy and raising moral was the main objective. But the FCs would not budge they had their standing orders. I took part in the last KOS raid through IAC space were we repaid your visit to and C3 station. Ok not a 70 man fleet more 7 but it's the thought that counts. A short while latter we are told that IAC has set us blue again. And yes I was there for the invasion of C3 and yes I did fight. We waited until we had even numbers although BC vs Caps isn't really even and we tried to fight back. But eventually it became apparent that those few (And I do mean few) of us left fighting had been abandoned by everyone else. So I challenged any one from AAA to a one on one (Which I knew I would lose) but it was better than just siting there as our commanders wanted. I launched a few more sole attacks on the AAA camped in C3 then sold up and moved back to empire. Oh I forgot to mention that in the initial defense of C3 when AAA first arrived the KOS leadership all went into a emergency senate meeting and were never seen again. The defense that was mustered was done by the few players who could be bothered. So why is KOS dead - Because the so called 4200 player alliance had 2000 dorment, 1400 alts, 600 in empire and the remaining 200 spread over 4 0.0 system in 2 different timezones and no leaders. Why do I sound bitter because it embarrasing that a 4200 Alliance was so crap. Those who were there fighting know what I mean and there were many players who I woudl happily fly with again but WTF were the rest of the alliance doing. An ALT of a Former KOS Pilot.
She Storm Minmatar The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.02.06 01:22:00 - [100] Quote: theT already has the majority of its assets safe. In fact it was probably the first corporation that knew in wat danger the alliance as so they secured most of their assets. Sorry Blaf but this time you're incorrect. I know in past events this was true, but this time theT lost a crapload of assets, mostly towers and mods, and ALOT of them in my own 2 carrier losses to AAA, as well as the freighter they killed while I was piloting it. (Hmmm maybe I should stay away from expensive ships). And YES I told alliance members to pull out, BECAUSE of the fact that KOS's leadership had crumbled and people were still very unsure about the new leadership. And as for Pimp Dog's comments about "wussy" corps. Well, many many times when defense fleets were called for, 10 or 12 guys tops would show up, Even when I threatened to make it mandatory. and I believe this happened for 2 reasons, #1, poor recruiting practices, and #2, alliance lost trust in leadership. I can't say I blame them for that. There are a few reasons for KOS's fall, all of which have been discussed time and time again. I was hoping the new leadership we were forming would be able to make the changes needed to make KOS strong, but we didn't have the time. Anyway, sensless hashing it out over and over again will get us nowhere. the KOS name is badly damaged and most members have left, and gone on to new places in Eve. A few of us still hold out, waiting to take care of final details. I want to wish all former KOS members good fun in Eve and hope to fly with some of them again.

Orin Fatch The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.02.06 02:07:00 - [101] Edited by: Orin Fatch on 06/02/2008 02:10:13 Originally by: She Storm Well, many many times when *defense fleets* were called for, 10 or 12 guys tops would show up, Even when I threatened to make it *mandatory*. There are a few reasons for KOS's fall. Let me laugh just for a second about why your alliance crumbled.. Highlighted words are key words. Nuff said about a bad 0.0 alliances really.
She Storm Minmatar The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.02.06 02:39:00 - [102] Quote: Plaz was there but not as plaz, and noone would listen. I believe we are talking about a different Plaz. You are talking about the Original holder of that name, Who was still in KOS under a new account right till the end. We are talking about the former alliance president who had account problems and left game, and didn't return.
Firkragg PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION	Posted - 2008.02.06 02:39:00 - [103] Originally by: She Storm Quote: theT already has the majority of its assets safe. In fact it was probably the first corporation that knew in wat danger the alliance as so they secured most of their assets. Sorry Blaf but this time you're incorrect. I know in past events this was true, but this time theT lost a crapload of assets, mostly towers and mods, and ALOT of them in my own 2 carrier losses to AAA, as well as the freighter they killed while I was piloting it. (Hmmm maybe I should stay away from expensive ships). And YES I told alliance members to pull out, BECAUSE of the fact that KOS's leadership had crumbled and people were still very unsure about the new leadership. And as for Pimp Dog's comments about "wussy" corps. Well, many many times when defense fleets were called for, 10 or 12 guys tops would show up, Even when I threatened to make it mandatory. and I believe this happened for 2 reasons, #1, poor recruiting practices, and #2, alliance lost trust in leadership. I can't say I blame them for that. There are a few reasons for KOS's fall, all of which have been discussed time and time again. I was hoping the new leadership we were forming would be able to make the changes needed to make KOS strong, but we didn't have the time. Anyway, sensless hashing it out over and over again will get us nowhere. the KOS name is badly damaged and most members have left, and gone on to new places in Eve. A few of us still hold out, waiting to take care of final details. I want to wish all former KOS members good fun in Eve and hope to fly with some of them again. On a side note to this i must point out that there was one point when things had actually improved and werent too bad. We could easily pull a 50 man defence gang without much effort and during new years when -a- started to show up we pulled much larger gangs. Not saying kos were amazing pvpers or anything just giving credit to the guys who would step up to defend.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:47:00 - [104] KOS had good turnout initially, I passd some of u in my recon and was impressed. u guys shoulda kept it up. ********** Bruceswarm paintrain rollin in
FellRaven Minmatar STEEL FIST INCORPORATED	Posted - 2008.02.06 13:14:00 - [105] I was DD''d in the first KOS vs AAA encounter. I then lost 2 more ships defending C3 when AAA came in and KOS losts the carriers. Mainly it has to be said to lag. I then ganged for every defence and CTA in C3. I took part in the destruction of several Solidus and Stains forces. I was part of the 49- battle only to be ambushed on the way back from helping our allies. We had been in a 30 Ship Roaming Op heading for AAA when the call came to help IAC. Then IAC set KOS red and visited us and we hide! The FCs were unwilling to commit to a battle they could not win. Many of the fleet wanted to fight pointing out that even if we lost inflicting damage on the enemy and raising moral was the main objective. But the FCs would not budge they had their standing orders. I took part in the last KOS raid through IAC space were we repaid your visit to and C3 station. Ok not a 70 man fleet more 7 but it''s the thought that counts. A short while latter we are told that IAC has set us blue again. And yes I was there for the invasion of C3 and yes I did fight. We waited until we had even numbers although BC vs Caps isn''t really even and we tried to fight back. But eventually it became apparent that those few (And I do mean few) of us left fighting had been abandoned by everyone else. So I challenged any one from AAA to a one on one (Which I knew I would lose) but it was better than just siting there as our commanders wanted. I launched a few more sole attacks on the AAA camped in C3 then sold up and moved back to empire. Oh I forgot to mention that in the initial defense of C3 when AAA first arrived the KOS leadership all went into a emergency senate meeting and were never seen again. The defense that was mustered was done by the few players who could be bothered. So why is KOS dead - Because the so called 4200 player alliance had 2000 dorment, 1400 alts, 600 in empire and the remaining 200 spread over 4 0.0 system in 2 different timezones and no leaders. Why do I sound bitter because it embarrasing that a 4200 Alliance was so crap. Those who were there fighting know what I mean and there were many players who I would happily fly with again but WTF were the rest of the alliance doing. A former KOS Pilot. FYI the KOS pilots posting here where the backbone of our defence, what am I saying this was all of our defence!
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 15:41:00 - [106] Xirtam's good luck charm strikes again. -clp
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.06 16:12:00 - [107] I'd just like to say what up to She Storm and anyone else I have flown with in KOS. Sad to see an old alliance go. I stole your old quote btw... Love, ATLAS's most experienced pod pilot
Miner Maya	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:32:00 - [108] The fall of KOS..... There was a lot of things which was playing a big role in falling of KOS. The main reason was the lack of Leadership in last time.... Sure some peoples tried to work as leadership, but noone respected them or they made bad decisions..... So in last time was no real leadership The leadership worked in last months was so blind they dont noticed what would happend. They trusted too much to they allies(Goons and RA) what was the biggest mistake they made. They dont built any real defence, they just hoped RAGOON would hold all the enemies around. That was an extreme big fail...we saw more times what means to have RAGOONS as friend(look at Frege or DMC). Lack of FC's. KOS had some very good FC's, but not enough. in 90% of the time there was no FC around to lead the gangs and so a random team without any "head" was easy slaughtered. An important reason was the unhonorable work of IAC and -A- in the last time of KOS. -A- made lot of small gangs roaming in KOS space and i think both sides liked this fights. Than -A- wanted to take the KOS sapce and they made bigger and bigger gangs to get the pilots of KOS(which mostly fought without leader) a bit tired. If that dont worked(in this time KOS was able to get together 200+ fleets) they made a dirty trick and trapped KOS in 49- which was mostly a trap for KOS and not for BoB. They called for help and KOS was asap answering and sending pilots to the target system. The pilots was attacked even on the route to 49- by random -A- gangs and after Shrike escaped -A- was firing on KOS and KOS pilots answered for this challenge. But IAC was on the side of -A- and they attacked the KOS members together and than IAC set KOS red and made heavy attacks on C3. That was a well planned move from -A- and IAC, because most of the pilots which had fun to fight -A- knowed they have a hard time against -A-, but if IAC attacks too they have no chance and the best move to avoid a big loose is to avoid the fight and they moved out of KOS space. After this happend IAC, like a good guy moved back and left the space for -A-, which used the time where KOS was the weakest(KOS was never extreme strong :) ) and began the siege. If they would so like to fight as they like to describ himself, they would be attack KOS if he was the strongest. So the time of KOS is done, there would be just 1 little chance for KOS to survive if -A- would let them a ssmall part of space with a station and set them blue for 6-9 month to let time to be stronger, but that would never happend, because -A- alone cant fight any stronger enemy. Except some extreme good pilots they are a BoL(Band of Loosers)
Pradege D'Hallur Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:49:00 - [109] Originally by: Miner Maya The fall of KOS..... There was a lot of things which was playing a big role in falling of KOS. The main reason was the lack of Leadership in last time.... Sure some peoples tried to work as leadership, but noone respected them or they made bad decisions..... So in last time was no real leadership The leadership worked in last months was so blind they dont noticed what would happend. They trusted too much to they allies(Goons and RA) what was the biggest mistake they made. They dont built any real defence, they just hoped RAGOON would hold all the enemies around. That was an extreme big fail...we saw more times what means to have RAGOONS as friend(look at Frege or DMC). Lack of FC's. KOS had some very good FC's, but not enough. in 90% of the time there was no FC around to lead the gangs and so a random team without any "head" was easy slaughtered. An important reason was the unhonorable work of IAC and -A- in the last time of KOS. -A- made lot of small gangs roaming in KOS space and i think both sides liked this fights. Than -A- wanted to take the KOS sapce and they made bigger and bigger gangs to get the pilots of KOS(which mostly fought without leader) a bit tired. If that dont worked(in this time KOS was able to get together 200+ fleets) they made a dirty trick and trapped KOS in 49- which was mostly a trap for KOS and not for BoB. They called for help and KOS was asap answering and sending pilots to the target system. The pilots was attacked even on the route to 49- by random -A- gangs and after Shrike escaped -A- was firing on KOS and KOS pilots answered for this challenge. But IAC was on the side of -A- and they attacked the KOS members together and than IAC set KOS red and made heavy attacks on C3. That was a well planned move from -A- and IAC, because most of the pilots which had fun to fight -A- knowed they have a hard time against -A-, but if IAC attacks too they have no chance and the best move to avoid a big loose is to avoid the fight and they moved out of KOS space. After this happend IAC, like a good guy moved back and left the space for -A-, which used the time where KOS was the weakest(KOS was never extreme strong :) ) and began the siege. If they would so like to fight as they like to describ himself, they would be attack KOS if he was the strongest. So the time of KOS is done, there would be just 1 little chance for KOS to survive if -A- would let them a ssmall part of space with a station and set them blue for 6-9 month to let time to be stronger, but that would never happend, because -A- alone cant fight any stronger enemy. Except some extreme good pilots they are a BoL(Band of Loosers) are you serious..............
Firkragg PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:52:00 - [110] Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur Originally by: Miner Maya The fall of KOS..... There was a lot of things which was playing a big role in falling of KOS. The main reason was the lack of Leadership in last time.... Sure some peoples tried to work as leadership, but noone respected them or they made bad decisions..... So in last time was no real leadership The leadership worked in last months was so blind they dont noticed what would happend. They trusted too much to they allies(Goons and RA) what was the biggest mistake they made. They dont built any real defence, they just hoped RAGOON would hold all the enemies around. That was an extreme big fail...we saw more times what means to have RAGOONS as friend(look at Frege or DMC). Lack of FC's. KOS had some very good FC's, but not enough. in 90% of the time there was no FC around to lead the gangs and so a random team without any "head" was easy slaughtered. An important reason was the unhonorable work of IAC and -A- in the last time of KOS. -A- made lot of small gangs roaming in KOS space and i think both sides liked this fights. Than -A- wanted to take the KOS sapce and they made bigger and bigger gangs to get the pilots of KOS(which mostly fought without leader) a bit tired. If that dont worked(in this time KOS was able to get together 200+ fleets) they made a dirty trick and trapped KOS in 49- which was mostly a trap for KOS and not for BoB. They called for help and KOS was asap answering and sending pilots to the target system. The pilots was attacked even on the route to 49- by random -A- gangs and after Shrike escaped -A- was firing on KOS and KOS pilots answered for this challenge. But IAC was on the side of -A- and they attacked the KOS members together and than IAC set KOS red and made heavy attacks on C3. That was a well planned move from -A- and IAC, because most of the pilots which had fun to fight -A- knowed they have a hard time against -A-, but if IAC attacks too they have no chance and the best move to avoid a big loose is to avoid the fight and they moved out of KOS space. After this happend IAC, like a good guy moved back and left the space for -A-, which used the time where KOS was the weakest(KOS was never extreme strong :) ) and began the siege. If they would so like to fight as they like to describ himself, they would be attack KOS if he was the strongest. So the time of KOS is done, there would be just 1 little chance for KOS to survive if -A- would let them a ssmall part of space with a station and set them blue for 6-9 month to let time to be stronger, but that would never happend, because -A- alone cant fight any stronger enemy. Except some extreme good pilots they are a BoL(Band of Loosers) are you serious.............. You cant tell by his lack of paragraphing?

Pradege D'Hallur Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.02.07 08:55:00 - [111] The question was rhetorical but still needed to be asked...............
Firkragg PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION	Posted - 2008.02.07 09:35:00 - [112] Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur The question was rhetorical but still needed to be asked............... KOS would have totally kicked your ass honest. TBH i was always disappointed that when the main -a- offensive started we were too screwed on the inside to really respond properly. If you compare the response to the invasion to the response around new years there is a massive difference.
Pradege D'Hallur Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.02.07 09:49:00 - [113] Originally by: Firkragg Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur The question was rhetorical but still needed to be asked............... KOS would have totally kicked your ass honest. TBH i was always disappointed that when the main -a- offensive started we were too screwed on the inside to really respond properly. If you compare the response to the invasion to the response around new years there is a massive difference. So on that point it would be safe to assume you believe in santa claus, the easter bunny, the boogieman, that bob is winning, that ccp is impartial, you see where this is going dont you.................
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.07 10:43:00 - [114] AAA has been putting their blood in the first line for months against our enemies, helped us with a titan, are chill brosefs who helped our brosefs IAC. Evil Thug has also some kind of idol status within goonswarm. On the other side there's KOS. Draw your own conclusions. -clp
Maranthas Vengeance of the Fallen	Posted - 2008.02.07 11:05:00 - [115] ..and Russians stick together, no matter what. Agreements, promises, reassurances - it's Joseph Stalin who said "v Politikie niet sentimentow"... so that is exactly what happened. And, dont get me wrong - I also think that KOS in its shape was asking for it.
CRUSH3R Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.02.07 11:24:00 - [116] Originally by: pimp dog Well now that kos is down to less then 300 people what will happen next. will -A- slow down and let us rebuild slowly under a new alliance, let us keep the last 2 systems we own, or let kos rebuild under kos. out of 4200 man alliance, and now down to less then 300 since -A- started to attack. that just shows everyone in eve that kos did have a bunch of wussies in it. if the corps that were in kos would have worked as a team and fought back against -A- we might have stoped them from taking c3-, but did we? no everyone got scared and ran to empire. ya the taining corp could have shut down the alliance and ran but we didn't because the few corps that are staying till the end wants to fight with the kos ticker and go out with pride knowing that they stayed till the end instead of running. Pimp Dog We took what we wanted to take. If you want to discuss your future in tenerifis - feel free to eve-mail me your offers. CRUSH3R, AAA diplo.
FellRaven Minmatar STEEL FIST INCORPORATED	Posted - 2008.02.07 16:18:00 - [117] "So the time of KOS is done, there would be just 1 little chance for KOS to survive if -A- would let them a ssmall part of space with a station and set them blue for 6-9 month to let time to be stronger, but that would never happend, because -A- alone cant fight any stronger enemy. Except some extreme good pilots they are a BoL(Band of Loosers)" I assume from this that you were not in C3 at any time during the war. AAA were in my opinion the most formidible opponent that KOS faced. We were easily able to defeat Solidus, Church and Stain gangs but never to my knowledge AAA. An certainly they were tactically far better organised than the other attackers. I'll let them keep their secrets and won't share here. AAA won because we (KOS) were crap, the IAC attack caused alot of KOS to run back to empire fearing they would be trapped, leadership as discussed did not exist, there was no one corp big enough to hold it together but with all that said AAA knew what they were doing and did it well.
raglah Gallente Southern Cross Mining and Industrial	Posted - 2008.02.07 16:34:00 - [118] Originally by: pimp dog Well now that kos is down to less then 300 people what will happen next. will -A- slow down and let us rebuild slowly under a new alliance, let us keep the last 2 systems we own, or let kos rebuild under kos. out of 4200 man alliance, and now down to less then 300 since -A- started to attack. that just shows everyone in eve that kos did have a bunch of wussies in it. if the corps that were in kos would have worked as a team and fought back against -A- we might have stoped them from taking c3-, but did we? no everyone got scared and ran to empire. ya the taining corp could have shut down the alliance and ran but we didn't because the few corps that are staying till the end wants to fight with the kos ticker and go out with pride knowing that they stayed till the end instead of running. Pimp Dog the blame for KOS shrinking like it did was the leadership ! no if buts or ? the leader shouted and screemed about defending kos space [c3] whilst sitting in nzw in his dread docked? when some of us where busy hunting roaming parties in dz6 we where subjected to a tirade! he then said when we tried to sugest something? to leave if we did'nt like doing it his way? point or morale of post if you want people to follow you you must lead.listen,and have a plan? if you also want respect? you must give it to have it returned. also some of us could see the backstab from the allies[so called]but people would not listen. To the good [few] wing comanders i served under good luck with who ever your with? Raglah. miner-trader-manufactorer. we value add to our ore!
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.07 16:48:00 - [119] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Evil Thug has also some kind of idol status within goonswarm. And outside the swarm!! I <3 Mr. Thug!! Dude plays the game the way its meant to be played!
Liam Galagher Savey	Posted - 2008.02.07 18:19:00 - [120] let this thread die..... let it be as dead as KOS. lets go -> DELVE! _________________________________________ solo pirating ftw!



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