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BobTheMechanic
Caldari Sundering Pain
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Posted - 2008.01.05 10:14:00 -
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Is it all but over? Havn't seen any updates besides the first few conflicts and the Titan DD's.
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Jeremy Paxman
Special Doc
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Posted - 2008.01.05 10:30:00 -
[2]
KOS have obliterated AAA and are now feasting on the spoils.
-------------------- "this", quoth he, and lo, he was down. |

BobTheMechanic
Caldari Sundering Pain
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Posted - 2008.01.05 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jeremy Paxman KOS have obliterated AAA and are now feasting on the spoils.
sigh, yea ok anyone with some real info?
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Taz Devlin
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.05 10:34:00 -
[4]
I am now in Jita, licking my wounds 
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Nexus Kinnon
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.01.05 10:51:00 -
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Was there ever any question of who would win? 
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Hitme Harder
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2008.01.05 11:09:00 -
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KOS did some spring cleaning and kicked out that horrible corp that samurai jack was ceo of.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.05 13:16:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Taz Devlin I am now in Jita, licking my wounds 
got to say I love that sig.
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Nitroviper
Internet Dads
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Posted - 2008.01.05 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nitroviper on 05/01/2008 13:53:40 
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Maniakas
STEEL FIST INCORPORATED Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:26:00 -
[9]
I stole their pie 
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Bashiri
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.05 17:20:00 -
[10]
Taz Devilin your sig rocks
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Ungdall
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.05 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hitme Harder KOS did some spring cleaning and kicked out that horrible corp that samurai jack was ceo of.
dis.
KOS is still hostile with AAA because they (one of them) likes kicking each other. They have done a lot to improve their standing amongst the rest of us by weeding out the cancerous portions of their alliance who's damage to KOs far outweighed their benefit. Kudos to KOS and I look forward to continued improvements in your own management and your standing with others. fite da fite!
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.05 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 05/01/2008 17:30:34
Originally by: Ungdall They have done a lot to improve their standing amongst the rest of us by weeding out the cancerous portions of their alliance who's damage to KOs far outweighed their benefit.
ROFLMAO @ a Goon talking about "weeding out cancerous portions of the alliance". If Goonbleat management would weed out the crap you might actually achieve something in this game besides claiming others victories as your own.
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wierchas noobhunter
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.05 17:42:00 -
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do anyone think that kos got single chance against aaa ?
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Angelonico
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.05 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 05/01/2008 17:30:34
Originally by: Ungdall They have done a lot to improve their standing amongst the rest of us by weeding out the cancerous portions of their alliance who's damage to KOs far outweighed their benefit.
ROFLMAO @ a Goon talking about "weeding out cancerous portions of the alliance". If Goonbleat management would weed out the crap you might actually achieve something in this game besides claiming others victories as your own.
Once again windy, for a person who claims to hate trolls, goons, and taking the "low" road... you consistently embody the very things you claim to be speaking against.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.05 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: BobTheMechanic
Originally by: Jeremy Paxman KOS have obliterated AAA and are now feasting on the spoils.
sigh, yea ok anyone with some real info?
If you don't have any info, why are you creating topics?
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.05 19:32:00 -
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Just some good old fashioned fleet fights once in a while. Seems the only people not making a big fuss on the forums about this is kos and -a-. Id like to take a moment to say GF to -a-. Most of you are cool guys and fleet fights are always fun.
Sorry if im breaking the current trend of the forums by showing some respect for the people i fight 
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.05 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ungdall
Originally by: Hitme Harder KOS did some spring cleaning and kicked out that horrible corp that samurai jack was ceo of.
dis.
KOS is still hostile with AAA because they (one of them) likes kicking each other. They have done a lot to improve their standing amongst the rest of us by weeding out the cancerous portions of their alliance who's damage to KOs far outweighed their benefit. Kudos to KOS and I look forward to continued improvements in your own management and your standing with others. fite da fite!
KOS will always be red to -A- because they use them as target to practice. They are close and they suck at PVP. You Goons on the other hand, will always do what your Russian masters tell you. I'm sure you wouldn't defend KOS from -A- would you? 
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matty01
Minmatar Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.05 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Firkragg Just some good old fashioned fleet fights once in a while. Seems the only people not making a big fuss on the forums about this is kos and -a-. Id like to take a moment to say GF to -a-. Most of you are cool guys and fleet fights are always fun.
Sorry if im breaking the current trend of the forums by showing some respect for the people i fight 
this tbh
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Khirzan Wolfson
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.05 20:22:00 -
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seeing as neither AAA or KOS said there was a real campaign, i find it funny this was posted......KOS is using this as a time to weed out the carebears. Props to -a- and solidus for making northern tenerifis interesting again.
we kicked the farmers out months ago, now for those that dont participate or help kos in any way.....i think every alliance in game can agree with necessary cleaning when needed. And yeah, we need it...so we are doing it. This isnt an official statement but merely my view as a higher-up member. I cant think of a better thing that has happened lately, and look forward to more dead weight being released from KOS.
Cheers to all and lets see what wonders 2008 has in store for Eve Online.
-Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp -Corp Public Channel = The T Public -Alliance Public = kos-public |

Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.05 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Firkragg Just some good old fashioned fleet fights once in a while. Seems the only people not making a big fuss on the forums about this is kos and -a-. Id like to take a moment to say GF to -a-. Most of you are cool guys and fleet fights are always fun.
Sorry if im breaking the current trend of the forums by showing some respect for the people i fight 
this tbh
See this guys now on the list of cool -a- members.
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Ungdall
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.05 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson seeing as neither AAA or KOS said there was a real campaign, i find it funny this was posted......KOS is using this as a time to weed out the carebears. Props to -a- and solidus for making northern tenerifis interesting again.
we kicked the farmers out months ago, now for those that dont participate or help kos in any way.....i think every alliance in game can agree with necessary cleaning when needed. And yeah, we need it...so we are doing it. This isnt an official statement but merely my view as a higher-up member. I cant think of a better thing that has happened lately, and look forward to more dead weight being released from KOS.
Cheers to all and lets see what wonders 2008 has in store for Eve Online.
:hi5: getting rid of people who hurt you (bye fatty)
"KOS will always be red to -A- because they use them as target to practice. They are close and they suck at PVP. You Goons on the other hand, will always do what your Russian masters tell you. I'm sure you wouldn't defend KOS from -A- would you? Laughing"
We gave them space with the intention that they would have to work to hold it. Which is pointless here seeing as AAA isn't out to take any of their space. Anyways, we aren't the first group to have a situation where allies are fighting, and like others before us, we're gonna stay out of it.
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.05 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ungdall
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson seeing as neither AAA or KOS said there was a real campaign, i find it funny this was posted......KOS is using this as a time to weed out the carebears. Props to -a- and solidus for making northern tenerifis interesting again.
we kicked the farmers out months ago, now for those that dont participate or help kos in any way.....i think every alliance in game can agree with necessary cleaning when needed. And yeah, we need it...so we are doing it. This isnt an official statement but merely my view as a higher-up member. I cant think of a better thing that has happened lately, and look forward to more dead weight being released from KOS.
Cheers to all and lets see what wonders 2008 has in store for Eve Online.
:hi5: getting rid of people who hurt you (bye fatty)
"KOS will always be red to -A- because they use them as target to practice. They are close and they suck at PVP. You Goons on the other hand, will always do what your Russian masters tell you. I'm sure you wouldn't defend KOS from -A- would you? Laughing"
We gave them space with the intention that they would have to work to hold it. Which is pointless here seeing as AAA isn't out to take any of their space. Anyways, we aren't the first group to have a situation where allies are fighting, and like others before us, we're gonna stay out of it.
Just beacuse if you EVER disagree with your masters you will end up in Rens in less then a week. But that's good, because at least you know your place.
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Jogyn
Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.05 21:21:00 -
[23]
THEY ARE REPELLING THEM RIGHT NOW!
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Delthus
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.05 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Taz Devlin I am now in Jita, licking my wounds 
ahh so true we are mining trit reestablish our power base and funds after the brutal loss  |

Crax McGee
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.05 21:24:00 -
[25]
HI JOGYN <3 <3 xxx
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Ungdall
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.05 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Ungdall
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson seeing as neither AAA or KOS said there was a real campaign, i find it funny this was posted......KOS is using this as a time to weed out the carebears. Props to -a- and solidus for making northern tenerifis interesting again.
we kicked the farmers out months ago, now for those that dont participate or help kos in any way.....i think every alliance in game can agree with necessary cleaning when needed. And yeah, we need it...so we are doing it. This isnt an official statement but merely my view as a higher-up member. I cant think of a better thing that has happened lately, and look forward to more dead weight being released from KOS.
Cheers to all and lets see what wonders 2008 has in store for Eve Online.
:hi5: getting rid of people who hurt you (bye fatty)
"KOS will always be red to -A- because they use them as target to practice. They are close and they suck at PVP. You Goons on the other hand, will always do what your Russian masters tell you. I'm sure you wouldn't defend KOS from -A- would you? Laughing"
We gave them space with the intention that they would have to work to hold it. Which is pointless here seeing as AAA isn't out to take any of their space. Anyways, we aren't the first group to have a situation where allies are fighting, and like others before us, we're gonna stay out of it.
Just beacuse if you EVER disagree with your masters you will end up in Rens in less then a week. But that's good, because at least you know your place.
Would you disagree with a bear with a gun?
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MIRMIDON
United Forces Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.10 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ungdall
Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Ungdall
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson seeing as neither AAA or KOS said there was a real campaign, i find it funny this was posted......KOS is using this as a time to weed out the carebears. Props to -a- and solidus for making northern tenerifis interesting again.
we kicked the farmers out months ago, now for those that dont participate or help kos in any way.....i think every alliance in game can agree with necessary cleaning when needed. And yeah, we need it...so we are doing it. This isnt an official statement but merely my view as a higher-up member. I cant think of a better thing that has happened lately, and look forward to more dead weight being released from KOS.
Cheers to all and lets see what wonders 2008 has in store for Eve Online.
:hi5: getting rid of people who hurt you (bye fatty)
"KOS will always be red to -A- because they use them as target to practice. They are close and they suck at PVP. You Goons on the other hand, will always do what your Russian masters tell you. I'm sure you wouldn't defend KOS from -A- would you? Laughing"
We gave them space with the intention that they would have to work to hold it. Which is pointless here seeing as AAA isn't out to take any of their space. Anyways, we aren't the first group to have a situation where allies are fighting, and like others before us, we're gonna stay out of it.
Just beacuse if you EVER disagree with your masters you will end up in Rens in less then a week. But that's good, because at least you know your place.
Would you disagree with a bear with a gun?
Thats why you will be next, after BoB fall Goons will be in no use and their space will be claimed by their former masters....Mark my words. ------------------------------------------------ "En eida oti ouden eida" Socrates
Exp:The only thing i know is that i know nothing.
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solosnake
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.10 13:35:00 -
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At least KOS have the balls to undock. They fight valiantly (if hopelessly) :) 
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Force Leap
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Posted - 2008.01.10 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Force Leap on 10/01/2008 14:04:26 The momentary truce to Fight BoB in 49- together was the highlight so far.
You can't beat waiting at the gate for the DD counter then jumping in a combined force only to find it takes 40 mins to enter space so that 10mins you waited for the DD was wasted 
But yea so far I have nothing but admiration for AAA there DD ambush was brilliantly executed (yes I was one of the victims) and there follow-up assault on C3 was great fun apart from the LAAAAAAAAAAAAAG.
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HenkieBoy
Enrave Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.10 14:44:00 -
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Sounds strange, but this 'war' is doing wonders for KOS...
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Silvestri
Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.10 16:16:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson seeing as neither AAA or KOS said there was a real campaign, i find it funny this was posted......KOS is using this as a time to weed out the carebears. Props to -a- and solidus for making northern tenerifis interesting again.
we kicked the farmers out months ago, now for those that dont participate or help kos in any way.....i think every alliance in game can agree with necessary cleaning when needed. And yeah, we need it...so we are doing it. This isnt an official statement but merely my view as a higher-up member. I cant think of a better thing that has happened lately, and look forward to more dead weight being released from KOS.
Cheers to all and lets see what wonders 2008 has in store for Eve Online.
well said.
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Gloomy Gus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.10 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Ungdall
Originally by: Hitme Harder KOS did some spring cleaning and kicked out that horrible corp that samurai jack was ceo of.
dis.
KOS is still hostile with AAA because they (one of them) likes kicking each other. They have done a lot to improve their standing amongst the rest of us by weeding out the cancerous portions of their alliance who's damage to KOs far outweighed their benefit. Kudos to KOS and I look forward to continued improvements in your own management and your standing with others. fite da fite!
KOS will always be red to -A- because they use them as target to practice. They are close and they suck at PVP. You Goons on the other hand, will always do what your Russian masters tell you. I'm sure you wouldn't defend KOS from -A- would you? 
Thanks for the new sig online internet forum friend
Originally by: Zorland You Goons will always do what your Russian masters tell you.
Originally by: Gloomy Gus Duh...
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xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.01.10 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: xRevolveRx on 10/01/2008 16:23:23
Originally by: Ungdall
Originally by: Hitme Harder KOS did some spring cleaning and kicked out that horrible corp that samurai jack was ceo of.
dis.
Kudos to KOS and I look forward to continued improvements in your own management and your standing with others. fite da fite!
Yes because not being blue to every .0 alliance other than BoB and Tri would be boring....
*edit when is AAA gonna grow up and go back to being against all authorities?
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CrispyKritters
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.10 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: xRevolveRx
Yes because not being blue to every .0 alliance other than BoB and Tri would be boring....
*edit when is AAA gonna grow up and go back to being against all authorities?
Isn't our fault our enemies can't keep their allies.
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MIRMIDON
United Forces Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.11 10:35:00 -
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Everyone likes the backstabbing but no one the backstabber!!! ------------------------------------------------ "En eida oti ouden eida" Socrates
Exp:The only thing i know is that i know nothing.
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Ventro69
Caldari Manson Family SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.11 10:44:00 -
[36]
Keep up the good work -a-
HenkieBoy, my corp needs a cov ops with patience, like you.
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Krasnij Okjabre
Caldari Havoc Inc Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.11 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter do anyone think that kos got single chance against aaa ?
Not a single iota.
Go -A-.
You'd be amazed how fast a cast lives run out when you have a hammer. |

Attack Dog
Caldari Terran Robotics Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.11 11:49:00 -
[38]
aren't downtime threads fun  ------sig starts here------ Don't be a noob, stop whinning 4 nerf's 2day |

HenkieBoy
Enrave Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:20:00 -
[39]
Quote: HenkieBoy, my corp needs a cov ops with patience, like you.
Thanks, but I don't think my current corp will let me go :P
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Arnaud Toroge
Amarr The SMITE Brotherhood Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.01.11 17:29:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Arnaud Toroge on 11/01/2008 17:30:13 I heard Xirtram has taken a leadership role in KoS
I must say i miss the old days with him being our leader, alas Curse 2.0 didnt go as well as we hoped.
GL to KoS, Xirt and VOTF will always hold a place in my heart...btw...0/ to Inosav also!
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M00dy
Killed In Action The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.11 18:42:00 -
[41]
I've gained a bit of respect for KOS after reading some of these posts from KOS.
Quick question. Is it KOS policy to post all it's kill and loss mails on your killboard?
RATatatatatat - Moody
Killed In Action The Crimson Federation |

HenkieBoy
Enrave Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.11 18:56:00 -
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Quote: Is it KOS policy to post all it's kill and loss mails on your killboard
Yepz, although I got more loss then gain 
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magistre
Caldari KDS Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.12 12:37:00 -
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Yes well done to AAA had some good gritty battles, the kind you remember for a long while, and nice move with the titan...dam you
/bow
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.12 13:36:00 -
[44]
whenever I think of AAA and KOS fighting I think of the sound of a rock sinking into the soft skull of a child with a resounding *****ing noise
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Liam Galagher
Savey
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Posted - 2008.01.12 17:09:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok whenever I think of AAA and KOS fighting I think of the sound of a rock sinking into the soft skull of a child with a resounding *****ing noise
jesusfknchrist, get some rest, dude! _________________________________________
solo pirating ftw! |

Lyl Libido
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.12 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: M00dy I've gained a bit of respect for KOS after reading some of these posts from KOS.
Quick question. Is it KOS policy to post all it's kill and loss mails on your killboard?
those that dont should be podded with no hesitation, because they add to the filth that gives kos a bad rep
*hears the trash truck approaching* -Lyl Libido The Taining Corp |

Azrail Almooran
Gallente KDS Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.13 01:30:00 -
[47]
KoS has changed alot lately and all for the better, Im certain we will earn alot more respect. [URL=http://imageshack.us][/URL] |

Orin Fatch
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.13 03:34:00 -
[48]
Be honest with your selfs. No matter who would win. Fact is. Until a certain alliance is dead. aAa, KOS, and every other coalition alliance must refrain from any POS warfare.
There is no one to shoot in this side of eve. And so, why not throw a few rocks at your neighbors? Its keep us entertained. Id think every one is frustrated about the massive blue fest. But you cant start a new job before you finish the old one.  ---- There will be blood.. |

HenkieBoy
Enrave Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.14 09:04:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Orin Fatch Be honest with your selfs. No matter who would win. Fact is. Until a certain alliance is dead. aAa, KOS, and every other coalition alliance must refrain from any POS warfare.
There is no one to shoot in this side of eve. And so, why not throw a few rocks at your neighbors? Its keep us entertained. Id think every one is frustrated about the massive blue fest. But you cant start a new job before you finish the old one. 
So true... "What does not kill us makes us stronger!"
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R3dSh1ft
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.14 11:11:00 -
[50]
KOS has definitely improved in the last few weeks in my opinion, so props for it.
DKOD - an awesome synchronised killing machine |
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JerkerA
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.14 17:18:00 -
[51]
"honey you forgot to take out the trash! oh, wait.. no you didn't"
http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancechart.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=KOS
Spring house-cleaning as it should be. 
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K'Bar
Caldari Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.15 04:34:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Zaphod Jones
Originally by: Crax McGee HI JOGYN <3 <3 xxx
hi crax and jogyn <3
Sup Crax, Jogyn, & Zaphod 
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Ventro69
Caldari Manson Family SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.15 07:19:00 -
[53]
WHY has Kill On Site not been exterminated?! I paid the 5 isk FFS!!!
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Dkiler
Gallente Dkiller Delta Force Corp. Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.16 11:42:00 -
[54]
Il be back
 Sig removed as it is way too big. Please resize to 400 x 120 with max size of 24000b - Valorem |

End Yourself
Core Domination Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2008.01.16 12:12:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Ventro69
WHY has Kill On Site not been exterminated?! I paid the 5 isk FFS!!!
I`d guess because russian guns got sights too.
Sucks to be illiterate, huh?
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. |

Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.16 12:43:00 -
[56]
I have to say, I am genuinely impressed that KOS kicked all their isk farmers and crappy people. They're a better alliance for it.
Of course they all just joined that awful TCF tenant alliance, but what can you do, right?

Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.16 15:34:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Virgil Aquilis I have to say, I am genuinely impressed that KOS kicked all their isk farmers and crappy people. They're a better alliance for it.
Of course they all just joined that awful TCF tenant alliance, but what can you do, right?
well you still shoot them that's what you do.
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Space Harrier
Minmatar Roman Holiday
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Posted - 2008.01.16 16:39:00 -
[58]
Word is that KOS have started dumping stuff on the market at insanely low prices.
This is a sure sign that the legs of KOS are wobbling and I also know for a fact that a few corps within KOS are seeking alternative alliances citing poor leadership as their main reason for wanting to leave.
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SunglassesInSpace
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.16 16:54:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Space Harrier Word is that KOS have started dumping stuff on the market at insanely low prices.
This is a sure sign that the legs of KOS are wobbling and I also know for a fact that a few corps within KOS are seeking alternative alliances citing poor leadership as their main reason for wanting to leave.
your character has a pretty sweet name that was an awesome game v
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Jasese
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.16 16:57:00 -
[60]
Originally by: SunglassesInSpace
Originally by: Space Harrier Word is that KOS have started dumping stuff on the market at insanely low prices.
This is a sure sign that the legs of KOS are wobbling and I also know for a fact that a few corps within KOS are seeking alternative alliances citing poor leadership as their main reason for wanting to leave.
your character has a pretty sweet name that was an awesome game v
nice sig 
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bigred monkey
Sphere Systems
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Posted - 2008.01.16 19:41:00 -
[61]
just to comment that not all corps that left kos were weak pvpers, some of us that have left, have done so for legitimate reasons!
Congratualtions, your signature broke all of our signature size rules - exceeding the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Timmeh ([email protected]) |

CHUNG NORRIS
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Posted - 2008.01.16 21:27:00 -
[62]
you all sux.
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Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.16 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: SunglassesInSpace
Originally by: Space Harrier Word is that KOS have started dumping stuff on the market at insanely low prices.
This is a sure sign that the legs of KOS are wobbling and I also know for a fact that a few corps within KOS are seeking alternative alliances citing poor leadership as their main reason for wanting to leave.
your character has a pretty sweet name that was an awesome game v
what? [IMAGE REMOVED] . I like this addition CCP.
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.01.16 21:39:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Hrin what? [IMAGE REMOVED] . I like this addition CCP.
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Mr TriX
Gallente The Collective
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Posted - 2008.01.17 00:22:00 -
[65]
Quote: Be honest with your selfs. No matter who would win. Fact is. Until a certain alliance is dead. aAa, KOS, and every other coalition alliance must refrain from any POS warfare.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I also agree KoS has been improving pvp wise.
I also don't consider KoS my enemy, but my friend. The friend I like to shoot at when I'm bored. Everyone always gets a kick out of the guy dancing around your shells!
See ya next time I'm bored 
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Gikanzin
Minmatar Founder's of the Dominion The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.17 02:04:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson seeing as neither AAA or KOS said there was a real campaign, i find it funny this was posted......KOS is using this as a time to weed out the carebears. Props to -a- and solidus for making northern tenerifis interesting again.
we kicked the farmers out months ago, now for those that dont participate or help kos in any way.....i think every alliance in game can agree with necessary cleaning when needed. And yeah, we need it...so we are doing it. This isnt an official statement but merely my view as a higher-up member. I cant think of a better thing that has happened lately, and look forward to more dead weight being released from KOS.
Cheers to all and lets see what wonders 2008 has in store for Eve Online.
Makes me wonder what the real/first/untainted reason for this incident to happen. And I do mean the REAL reason not those that have been posted by the so called spies.
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Sharkk
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.17 02:09:00 -
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when everyone around you is blue for 30 jumps. 0.0 is frickin boring ..seems to be the reason as best i cant tell
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Ventro69
Caldari Manson Family SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.17 10:02:00 -
[68]
Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: Ventro69
WHY has Kill On Site not been exterminated?! I paid the 5 isk FFS!!!
I`d guess because russian guns got sights too.
Sucks to be illiterate, huh?
Bah! If dolphins are so smart, why do they live in igloes???!!
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Mediax
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Posted - 2008.01.18 01:27:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Mr TriX
Quote: Be honest with your selfs. No matter who would win. Fact is. Until a certain alliance is dead. aAa, KOS, and every other coalition alliance must refrain from any POS warfare.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I also agree KoS has been improving pvp wise.
I also don't consider KoS my enemy, but my friend. The friend I like to shoot at when I'm bored. Everyone always gets a kick out of the guy dancing around your shells!
See ya next time I'm bored 
Please shoot me when you`re bored. I`ll loose my grounds once but I`ll learn and maybe kill you next time.
This 0.0-game is IMHO about to kill your enemies or be killed by your enemies. Both options garantee some fun, right? And that`s why we`re all skilling our a** off.  -ENRAVE- Knights Of the Southerncross |

HenkieBoy
Enrave Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.18 08:08:00 -
[70]
You noob Mediax, you forgot your corp and alliance ticker 
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2008.01.18 09:05:00 -
[71]
Originally by: xRazoRx
Originally by: Hrin what? [IMAGE REMOVED] . I like this addition CCP.
The funny thing is, he can't see that image.
Check out top of page. [x] Display images ______ Unrepentant Southern Federation Cheerleader.
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Kraevin Mooreblud
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Posted - 2008.01.18 14:21:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Kraevin Mooreblud on 18/01/2008 14:23:36
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Dartanth
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.18 14:24:00 -
[73]
Originally by: bigred monkey just to comment that not all corps that left kos were weak pvpers, some of us that have left, have done so for legitimate reasons!
That maybe but you BRM cried when ever a pvp op was called cause you were busy ratting or mining. You cried loudly, nearly as loudly as Stokar... And now you are gone and are others like you and the crying has stopped. And yet our pvp fleets are as strong as ever... Dartanth - TheT |

Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.18 15:21:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Dartanth
Originally by: bigred monkey just to comment that not all corps that left kos were weak pvpers, some of us that have left, have done so for legitimate reasons!
That maybe but you BRM cried when ever a pvp op was called cause you were busy ratting or mining. You cried loudly, nearly as loudly as Stokar... And now you are gone and are others like you and the crying has stopped. And yet our pvp fleets are as strong as ever...
Bigred was cool leave him alone. He does suck at pvp though 
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bigred monkey
Sphere Systems
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Posted - 2008.01.19 05:21:00 -
[75]
roflmao!! shows how well you knew me dartanth, the 2 tings i didnt do much of if at all in kos was mining and ratting. i was not always in the kos gangs but i was always on allaince duty, perhaps you should get your facts right in the first place rather than look like a ****!!
thanks for the nice words firk, will be sorry to not see you around anymore mate
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astowv
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.19 11:40:00 -
[76]
So. Im reading:
KOS kicked out their industrial backbone. And AAA is happy they did, and says KOS is better for it ? :D
People dont like anything but PvP in 0.0. Those lawless grumps 
Excuse me, I need to go take my anti-rant pills 
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Khirzan Wolfson
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.19 14:16:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Firkragg
Originally by: Dartanth
Originally by: bigred monkey just to comment that not all corps that left kos were weak pvpers, some of us that have left, have done so for legitimate reasons!
That maybe but you BRM cried when ever a pvp op was called cause you were busy ratting or mining. You cried loudly, nearly as loudly as Stokar... And now you are gone and are others like you and the crying has stopped. And yet our pvp fleets are as strong as ever...
Bigred was cool leave him alone. He does suck at pvp though 
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SirWOLFE
Caldari Sphere Systems
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Posted - 2008.01.19 18:49:00 -
[78]
The reason we left Kos was cus the leadership went to pot and was disorganised they have a good fleet commander and Bigred Monkey lost a carrier to AAA in the name of KOS and i agree he does suck at pvp but he is trying very trying in fact Sig Removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn ([email protected]) |

bigred monkey
Sphere Systems
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Posted - 2008.01.19 19:40:00 -
[79]
cheers for bringing that up........and i call you boss because??? anyway, had some real fun fighting them -a- guys, even sat in there systems was a laugh watching them try and hunt me down hehehe
am never afraid to put a ship on the line....hence title, big balls no brains!!
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:11:00 -
[80]
Originally by: SirWOLFE they have a good fleet commander
Flattery will get you nowhere 
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bigred monkey
Sphere Systems
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Posted - 2008.01.19 23:17:00 -
[81]
now what makes you think he was talking abuot you firk?? perhaps he ment xirtam!
hehe
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Attack Dog
Caldari Terran Robotics Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.20 02:48:00 -
[82]
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SirWOLFE
Caldari Sphere Systems
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Posted - 2008.01.20 15:33:00 -
[83]
yer i did mean xirt but u have your moments at least xirt got the honor of leading us into the dooms day which was awesome i must say. But i managed to get my pod all the way home so i think -a- need more practice at using it never mind. Sig Removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn ([email protected]) |

rHorizon
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Posted - 2008.01.31 03:28:00 -
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The whole event is rather strange IMO. * KOS kicks 1500 members. Obj: clear out dead weight. relality a lot of folks may have left that weren't. Plus the action generated a lot of bad fellings. * Leadership removed and with it apparently the billions of isks in dues. Did they run off with the cash? * AAA attacks a leadershipless alliance that gives no direction to the remaining members except "save your ass". As a result more members flee from the crumbling KOS alliance. * Rumors circulate that Plasmalord (acting KOS leader) has his account banned for isk selling... n1 know if this is true?
This is what I understand what happened... whether how much is true I dont know.
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Gimpi
THE GREY COUNCIL 5 Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:59:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Gimpi on 01/02/2008 20:07:09 Edited by: Gimpi on 01/02/2008 20:05:08 Edited by: Gimpi on 01/02/2008 20:01:11
Quote: The whole event is rather strange IMO. * KOS kicks 1500 members. Obj: clear out dead weight. relality a lot of folks may have left that weren't. Plus the action generated a lot of bad fellings. * Leadership removed and with it apparently the billions of isks in dues. Did they run off with the cash? * AAA attacks a leadershipless alliance that gives no direction to the remaining members except "save your ass". As a result more members flee from the crumbling KOS alliance. * Rumors circulate that Plasmalord (acting KOS leader) has his account banned for isk selling... n1 know if this is true?
This is what I understand what happened... whether how much is true I dont know.
A lot of truth in that post, although some of it is out of context. The purge on all levels is still occurring. I'm happy for it, because in the process a lot of egos have been drop-kicked to the curb. X-KOS who ran away like a little school girl screaming, have fun in fluffy-bunny care-bear land. Oh well, on with the pew-pew. 
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Louis Lane
Minmatar Imperium Holding corp
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:14:00 -
[86]
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 05/01/2008 17:30:34
Originally by: Ungdall They have done a lot to improve their standing amongst the rest of us by weeding out the cancerous portions of their alliance who's damage to KOs far outweighed their benefit.
ROFLMAO @ a Goon talking about "weeding out cancerous portions of the alliance". If Goonbleat management would weed out the crap you might actually achieve something in this game besides claiming others victories as your own.
warning warning bob alt spotted.
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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.01 21:08:00 -
[87]
Originally by: SirWOLFE yer i did mean xirt but u have your moments at least xirt got the honor of leading us into the dooms day which was awesome i must say. But i managed to get my pod all the way home so i think -a- need more practice at using it never mind.
hahahaha
see, this level of pubbie idiocy is why KOS collapsed
they, like ASCN, learned that building an empire on the backs of idiots works while said idiots can shoot rats in their Ravens, but not much longer than that

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Darc Kaahar
Boob Heads Haud Terminus
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Posted - 2008.02.02 05:28:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Virgil Aquilis
Originally by: SirWOLFE yer i did mean xirt but u have your moments at least xirt got the honor of leading us into the dooms day which was awesome i must say. But i managed to get my pod all the way home so i think -a- need more practice at using it never mind.
hahahaha
see, this level of pubbie idiocy is why KOS collapsed
they, like ASCN, learned that building an empire on the backs of idiots works while said idiots can shoot rats in their Ravens, but not much longer than that
hahahahha yeah thats great you dumb****got, you care too too much about this while I **** your GF in my ferrari driving through fields of tulips.
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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.02 05:54:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Darc Kaahar
Originally by: Virgil Aquilis
Originally by: SirWOLFE yer i did mean xirt but u have your moments at least xirt got the honor of leading us into the dooms day which was awesome i must say. But i managed to get my pod all the way home so i think -a- need more practice at using it never mind.
hahahaha
see, this level of pubbie idiocy is why KOS collapsed
they, like ASCN, learned that building an empire on the backs of idiots works while said idiots can shoot rats in their Ravens, but not much longer than that
hahahahha yeah thats great you dumb****got, you care too too much about this while I **** your GF in my ferrari driving through fields of tulips.
this is the best post of the year and you are the best poster

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Bund
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.02 06:04:00 -
[90]
In spite of recently reported server troubles, Rho squad remains firmly committed to our goals.
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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.02 06:52:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Virgil Aquilis on 02/02/2008 06:52:48
Originally by: Bund In spite of recently reported server troubles, Rho squad remains firmly committed to our goals.
assuming that your job is gang-warping afk friendlies straight into a doomsday, yes, Rho is doing quite well.
edit: but I think Merch Industrial still has you beat for today.

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pimp dog
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.02.05 14:57:00 -
[92]
Well now that kos is down to less then 300 people what will happen next. will -A- slow down and let us rebuild slowly under a new alliance, let us keep the last 2 systems we own, or let kos rebuild under kos. out of 4200 man alliance, and now down to less then 300 since -A- started to attack. that just shows everyone in eve that kos did have a bunch of wussies in it. if the corps that were in kos would have worked as a team and fought back against -A- we might have stoped them from taking c3-, but did we? no everyone got scared and ran to empire. ya the taining corp could have shut down the alliance and ran but we didn't because the few corps that are staying till the end wants to fight with the kos ticker and go out with pride knowing that they stayed till the end instead of running.
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Blafbeest
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.05 15:02:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Blafbeest on 05/02/2008 15:06:12 youre wrong, thet already has the majority of its assets safe. In fact it was probably the first corporation that knew in wat danger the alliance as so they secured most of their assets. In 0.0 there is enuff stuff to be operational but not more then that. Cant blame them tbh
btw 173 members according to latest figures
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Tandori Tanaka
Tanaka Stuff and Supplies
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Posted - 2008.02.05 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: Tandori Tanaka on 05/02/2008 15:49:02 KOS is/was the Xelas of the south. Just a bunch of corps that shared the same philosophy of exploiting an 0.0 Area to generate maximum profits. War costs money so the wussies bailed out.
/edit Ill bet most of the wussy corps/members are already in an another alliance to continue thier ISK farming gamestyle or atleast look for new opportunities to have an easy living in 0.0 while others fight for them.
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Prett
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Posted - 2008.02.05 15:56:00 -
[95]
Omg you dont know what your talking about. Just more bla-bla-bla.
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aQurio
Infamous Technologies
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Posted - 2008.02.05 16:53:00 -
[96]
Originally by: pimp dog Well now that kos is down to less then 300 people what will happen next. will -A- slow down and let us rebuild slowly under a new alliance, let us keep the last 2 systems we own, or let kos rebuild under kos. out of 4200 man alliance, and now down to less then 300 since -A- started to attack. that just shows everyone in eve that kos did have a bunch of wussies in it. if the corps that were in kos would have worked as a team and fought back against -A- we might have stoped them from taking c3-, but did we? no everyone got scared and ran to empire. ya the taining corp could have shut down the alliance and ran but we didn't because the few corps that are staying till the end wants to fight with the kos ticker and go out with pride knowing that they stayed till the end instead of running.
Pimp Dog
Thought you were one of the alliance leaders? You have no contact with aAa? She Storm i beleave, a member of your corp was on these very forums telling KOS members to get out of dodge. Old alliance members should have stayed in KOS while living in empire?
Sorry to say i would dump that alliance name and start over. Between rumors of plaz being banned for selling isk for RL money and the isk farmer population in KOS or the old population (although there probally is still isk farmers in KOS) that name is toast.
As far as your remainding space? It will be interesting to see what aAa does with it, it is after all kind of crap. Maybe they can rent it to KOS.
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SirWOLFE
Caldari Sphere Systems
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Posted - 2008.02.05 17:55:00 -
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The reason KOS fell was due to very poor leadership, when plaz left and said he would be back it all went down hill from there, the reason no one would fight was cus there was no leadership to lead a fleet. The amount of time i sat in kw or c3 with 50 people in a 5 man gang while everyone hid up and we died. KOS lost 3 carriers due to poor leadership in one night to AAA and one of my old corp members lost one of them. KOS where strong but poor leadership destroyed it all but i do hope AAA let cus hold a little bit of space and rebuild into a tighter small alliance. Sig Removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn ([email protected]) |

crazyiven
Brotherhood of Soban
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Posted - 2008.02.05 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: SirWOLFE The reason KOS fell was due to very poor leadership, when plaz left and said he would be back it all went down hill from there, the reason no one would fight was cus there was no leadership to lead a fleet. The amount of time i sat in kw or c3 with 50 people in a 5 man gang while everyone hid up and we died. KOS lost 3 carriers due to poor leadership in one night to AAA and one of my old corp members lost one of them. KOS where strong but poor leadership destroyed it all but i do hope AAA let cus hold a little bit of space and rebuild into a tighter small alliance.
Ill have to call that one. Plaz was there but not as plaz, and noone would listen. Its not just a name but who was behind the name. Ill just leave it at that. We left due to the fact that noone higher up would listen. So now we linger and will be joining someone else with the same thoughts as we have. Let it die...
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Force Leap
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:28:00 -
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I was DD'd in the first KOS vs AAA encounter. I then lost 2 more ships defending C3 when AAA came in and KOS losts the carriers. Mainly it has to be said to lag. I then ganged for every defence and CTA in C3. I took part in the destruction of several Solidus and Stains forces.
I was part of the 49- battle only to be ambushed on the way back from helping our allies. We had been in a 30 Ship Roaming Op heading for AAA when the call came to help IAC.
Then IAC set KOS red and visited us and we hide! The FCs were unwilling to commit to a battle they could not win. Many of the fleet wanted to fight pointing out that even if we lost inflicting damage on the enemy and raising moral was the main objective. But the FCs would not budge they had their standing orders.
I took part in the last KOS raid through IAC space were we repaid your visit to and C3 station. Ok not a 70 man fleet more 7 but it's the thought that counts. A short while latter we are told that IAC has set us blue again. 
And yes I was there for the invasion of C3 and yes I did fight. We waited until we had even numbers although BC vs Caps isn't really even and we tried to fight back. But eventually it became apparent that those few (And I do mean few) of us left fighting had been abandoned by everyone else. So I challenged any one from AAA to a one on one (Which I knew I would lose) but it was better than just siting there as our commanders wanted. I launched a few more sole attacks on the AAA camped in C3 then sold up and moved back to empire.
Oh I forgot to mention that in the initial defense of C3 when AAA first arrived the KOS leadership all went into a emergency senate meeting and were never seen again. The defense that was mustered was done by the few players who could be bothered.
So why is KOS dead - Because the so called 4200 player alliance had 2000 dorment, 1400 alts, 600 in empire and the remaining 200 spread over 4 0.0 system in 2 different timezones and no leaders.
Why do I sound bitter because it embarrasing that a 4200 Alliance was so crap. Those who were there fighting know what I mean and there were many players who I woudl happily fly with again but WTF were the rest of the alliance doing.
An ALT of a Former KOS Pilot.
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She Storm
Minmatar The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.02.06 01:22:00 -
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Quote: theT already has the majority of its assets safe. In fact it was probably the first corporation that knew in wat danger the alliance as so they secured most of their assets.
Sorry Blaf but this time you're incorrect. I know in past events this was true, but this time theT lost a crapload of assets, mostly towers and mods, and ALOT of them in my own 2 carrier losses to AAA, as well as the freighter they killed while I was piloting it. (Hmmm maybe I should stay away from expensive ships).
And YES I told alliance members to pull out, BECAUSE of the fact that KOS's leadership had crumbled and people were still very unsure about the new leadership.
And as for Pimp Dog's comments about "wussy" corps. Well, many many times when defense fleets were called for, 10 or 12 guys tops would show up, Even when I threatened to make it mandatory. and I believe this happened for 2 reasons, #1, poor recruiting practices, and #2, alliance lost trust in leadership. I can't say I blame them for that.
There are a few reasons for KOS's fall, all of which have been discussed time and time again. I was hoping the new leadership we were forming would be able to make the changes needed to make KOS strong, but we didn't have the time.
Anyway, sensless hashing it out over and over again will get us nowhere. the KOS name is badly damaged and most members have left, and gone on to new places in Eve.
A few of us still hold out, waiting to take care of final details.
I want to wish all former KOS members good fun in Eve and hope to fly with some of them again.
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Orin Fatch
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.06 02:07:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Orin Fatch on 06/02/2008 02:10:13
Originally by: She Storm Well, many many times when defense fleets were called for, 10 or 12 guys tops would show up, Even when I threatened to make it mandatory.
There are a few reasons for KOS's fall.
Let me laugh just for a second about why your alliance crumbled..
Highlighted words are key words. Nuff said about a bad 0.0 alliances really.
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She Storm
Minmatar The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.02.06 02:39:00 -
[102]
Quote: Plaz was there but not as plaz, and noone would listen.
I believe we are talking about a different Plaz. You are talking about the Original holder of that name, Who was still in KOS under a new account right till the end. We are talking about the former alliance president who had account problems and left game, and didn't return.
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Firkragg
PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2008.02.06 02:39:00 -
[103]
Originally by: She Storm
Quote: theT already has the majority of its assets safe. In fact it was probably the first corporation that knew in wat danger the alliance as so they secured most of their assets.
Sorry Blaf but this time you're incorrect. I know in past events this was true, but this time theT lost a crapload of assets, mostly towers and mods, and ALOT of them in my own 2 carrier losses to AAA, as well as the freighter they killed while I was piloting it. (Hmmm maybe I should stay away from expensive ships).
And YES I told alliance members to pull out, BECAUSE of the fact that KOS's leadership had crumbled and people were still very unsure about the new leadership.
And as for Pimp Dog's comments about "wussy" corps. Well, many many times when defense fleets were called for, 10 or 12 guys tops would show up, Even when I threatened to make it mandatory. and I believe this happened for 2 reasons, #1, poor recruiting practices, and #2, alliance lost trust in leadership. I can't say I blame them for that.
There are a few reasons for KOS's fall, all of which have been discussed time and time again. I was hoping the new leadership we were forming would be able to make the changes needed to make KOS strong, but we didn't have the time.
Anyway, sensless hashing it out over and over again will get us nowhere. the KOS name is badly damaged and most members have left, and gone on to new places in Eve.
A few of us still hold out, waiting to take care of final details.
I want to wish all former KOS members good fun in Eve and hope to fly with some of them again.
On a side note to this i must point out that there was one point when things had actually improved and werent too bad. We could easily pull a 50 man defence gang without much effort and during new years when -a- started to show up we pulled much larger gangs.
Not saying kos were amazing pvpers or anything just giving credit to the guys who would step up to defend.
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BobTheMechanic
Caldari Sundering Pain
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Posted - 2008.02.06 06:47:00 -
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KOS had good turnout initially, I passd some of u in my recon and was impressed. u guys shoulda kept it up.
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FellRaven
Minmatar STEEL FIST INCORPORATED
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Posted - 2008.02.06 13:14:00 -
[105]
I was DD''d in the first KOS vs AAA encounter. I then lost 2 more ships defending C3 when AAA came in and KOS losts the carriers. Mainly it has to be said to lag. I then ganged for every defence and CTA in C3. I took part in the destruction of several Solidus and Stains forces.
I was part of the 49- battle only to be ambushed on the way back from helping our allies. We had been in a 30 Ship Roaming Op heading for AAA when the call came to help IAC.
Then IAC set KOS red and visited us and we hide! The FCs were unwilling to commit to a battle they could not win. Many of the fleet wanted to fight pointing out that even if we lost inflicting damage on the enemy and raising moral was the main objective. But the FCs would not budge they had their standing orders.
I took part in the last KOS raid through IAC space were we repaid your visit to and C3 station. Ok not a 70 man fleet more 7 but it''s the thought that counts. A short while latter we are told that IAC has set us blue again. 
And yes I was there for the invasion of C3 and yes I did fight. We waited until we had even numbers although BC vs Caps isn''t really even and we tried to fight back. But eventually it became apparent that those few (And I do mean few) of us left fighting had been abandoned by everyone else. So I challenged any one from AAA to a one on one (Which I knew I would lose) but it was better than just siting there as our commanders wanted. I launched a few more sole attacks on the AAA camped in C3 then sold up and moved back to empire.
Oh I forgot to mention that in the initial defense of C3 when AAA first arrived the KOS leadership all went into a emergency senate meeting and were never seen again. The defense that was mustered was done by the few players who could be bothered.
So why is KOS dead - Because the so called 4200 player alliance had 2000 dorment, 1400 alts, 600 in empire and the remaining 200 spread over 4 0.0 system in 2 different timezones and no leaders.
Why do I sound bitter because it embarrasing that a 4200 Alliance was so crap. Those who were there fighting know what I mean and there were many players who I would happily fly with again but WTF were the rest of the alliance doing.
A former KOS Pilot.
FYI the KOS pilots posting here where the backbone of our defence, what am I saying this was all of our defence!
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 15:41:00 -
[106]
Xirtam's good luck charm strikes again. -clp
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.06 16:12:00 -
[107]
I'd just like to say what up to She Storm and anyone else I have flown with in KOS. Sad to see an old alliance go.
I stole your old quote btw...
Love, ATLAS's most experienced pod pilot 
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Miner Maya
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Posted - 2008.02.07 08:32:00 -
[108]
The fall of KOS.....
There was a lot of things which was playing a big role in falling of KOS. The main reason was the lack of Leadership in last time.... Sure some peoples tried to work as leadership, but noone respected them or they made bad decisions..... So in last time was no real leadership The leadership worked in last months was so blind they dont noticed what would happend. They trusted too much to they allies(Goons and RA) what was the biggest mistake they made. They dont built any real defence, they just hoped RAGOON would hold all the enemies around. That was an extreme big fail...we saw more times what means to have RAGOONS as friend(look at Frege or DMC). Lack of FC's. KOS had some very good FC's, but not enough. in 90% of the time there was no FC around to lead the gangs and so a random team without any "head" was easy slaughtered. An important reason was the unhonorable work of IAC and -A- in the last time of KOS. -A- made lot of small gangs roaming in KOS space and i think both sides liked this fights. Than -A- wanted to take the KOS sapce and they made bigger and bigger gangs to get the pilots of KOS(which mostly fought without leader) a bit tired. If that dont worked(in this time KOS was able to get together 200+ fleets) they made a dirty trick and trapped KOS in 49- which was mostly a trap for KOS and not for BoB. They called for help and KOS was asap answering and sending pilots to the target system. The pilots was attacked even on the route to 49- by random -A- gangs and after Shrike escaped -A- was firing on KOS and KOS pilots answered for this challenge. But IAC was on the side of -A- and they attacked the KOS members together and than IAC set KOS red and made heavy attacks on C3. That was a well planned move from -A- and IAC, because most of the pilots which had fun to fight -A- knowed they have a hard time against -A-, but if IAC attacks too they have no chance and the best move to avoid a big loose is to avoid the fight and they moved out of KOS space. After this happend IAC, like a good guy moved back and left the space for -A-, which used the time where KOS was the weakest(KOS was never extreme strong :) ) and began the siege. If they would so like to fight as they like to describ himself, they would be attack KOS if he was the strongest. So the time of KOS is done, there would be just 1 little chance for KOS to survive if -A- would let them a ssmall part of space with a station and set them blue for 6-9 month to let time to be stronger, but that would never happend, because -A- alone cant fight any stronger enemy. Except some extreme good pilots they are a BoL(Band of Loosers)
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Pradege D'Hallur
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.07 08:49:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Miner Maya The fall of KOS.....
There was a lot of things which was playing a big role in falling of KOS. The main reason was the lack of Leadership in last time.... Sure some peoples tried to work as leadership, but noone respected them or they made bad decisions..... So in last time was no real leadership The leadership worked in last months was so blind they dont noticed what would happend. They trusted too much to they allies(Goons and RA) what was the biggest mistake they made. They dont built any real defence, they just hoped RAGOON would hold all the enemies around. That was an extreme big fail...we saw more times what means to have RAGOONS as friend(look at Frege or DMC). Lack of FC's. KOS had some very good FC's, but not enough. in 90% of the time there was no FC around to lead the gangs and so a random team without any "head" was easy slaughtered. An important reason was the unhonorable work of IAC and -A- in the last time of KOS. -A- made lot of small gangs roaming in KOS space and i think both sides liked this fights. Than -A- wanted to take the KOS sapce and they made bigger and bigger gangs to get the pilots of KOS(which mostly fought without leader) a bit tired. If that dont worked(in this time KOS was able to get together 200+ fleets) they made a dirty trick and trapped KOS in 49- which was mostly a trap for KOS and not for BoB. They called for help and KOS was asap answering and sending pilots to the target system. The pilots was attacked even on the route to 49- by random -A- gangs and after Shrike escaped -A- was firing on KOS and KOS pilots answered for this challenge. But IAC was on the side of -A- and they attacked the KOS members together and than IAC set KOS red and made heavy attacks on C3. That was a well planned move from -A- and IAC, because most of the pilots which had fun to fight -A- knowed they have a hard time against -A-, but if IAC attacks too they have no chance and the best move to avoid a big loose is to avoid the fight and they moved out of KOS space. After this happend IAC, like a good guy moved back and left the space for -A-, which used the time where KOS was the weakest(KOS was never extreme strong :) ) and began the siege. If they would so like to fight as they like to describ himself, they would be attack KOS if he was the strongest. So the time of KOS is done, there would be just 1 little chance for KOS to survive if -A- would let them a ssmall part of space with a station and set them blue for 6-9 month to let time to be stronger, but that would never happend, because -A- alone cant fight any stronger enemy. Except some extreme good pilots they are a BoL(Band of Loosers)
are you serious..............
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Firkragg
PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2008.02.07 08:52:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur
Originally by: Miner Maya The fall of KOS.....
There was a lot of things which was playing a big role in falling of KOS. The main reason was the lack of Leadership in last time.... Sure some peoples tried to work as leadership, but noone respected them or they made bad decisions..... So in last time was no real leadership The leadership worked in last months was so blind they dont noticed what would happend. They trusted too much to they allies(Goons and RA) what was the biggest mistake they made. They dont built any real defence, they just hoped RAGOON would hold all the enemies around. That was an extreme big fail...we saw more times what means to have RAGOONS as friend(look at Frege or DMC). Lack of FC's. KOS had some very good FC's, but not enough. in 90% of the time there was no FC around to lead the gangs and so a random team without any "head" was easy slaughtered. An important reason was the unhonorable work of IAC and -A- in the last time of KOS. -A- made lot of small gangs roaming in KOS space and i think both sides liked this fights. Than -A- wanted to take the KOS sapce and they made bigger and bigger gangs to get the pilots of KOS(which mostly fought without leader) a bit tired. If that dont worked(in this time KOS was able to get together 200+ fleets) they made a dirty trick and trapped KOS in 49- which was mostly a trap for KOS and not for BoB. They called for help and KOS was asap answering and sending pilots to the target system. The pilots was attacked even on the route to 49- by random -A- gangs and after Shrike escaped -A- was firing on KOS and KOS pilots answered for this challenge. But IAC was on the side of -A- and they attacked the KOS members together and than IAC set KOS red and made heavy attacks on C3. That was a well planned move from -A- and IAC, because most of the pilots which had fun to fight -A- knowed they have a hard time against -A-, but if IAC attacks too they have no chance and the best move to avoid a big loose is to avoid the fight and they moved out of KOS space. After this happend IAC, like a good guy moved back and left the space for -A-, which used the time where KOS was the weakest(KOS was never extreme strong :) ) and began the siege. If they would so like to fight as they like to describ himself, they would be attack KOS if he was the strongest. So the time of KOS is done, there would be just 1 little chance for KOS to survive if -A- would let them a ssmall part of space with a station and set them blue for 6-9 month to let time to be stronger, but that would never happend, because -A- alone cant fight any stronger enemy. Except some extreme good pilots they are a BoL(Band of Loosers)
are you serious..............
You cant tell by his lack of paragraphing?
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Pradege D'Hallur
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.07 08:55:00 -
[111]
The question was rhetorical but still needed to be asked...............
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Firkragg
PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2008.02.07 09:35:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur The question was rhetorical but still needed to be asked...............
KOS would have totally kicked your ass honest. TBH i was always disappointed that when the main -a- offensive started we were too screwed on the inside to really respond properly. If you compare the response to the invasion to the response around new years there is a massive difference.
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Pradege D'Hallur
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.07 09:49:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Firkragg
Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur The question was rhetorical but still needed to be asked...............
KOS would have totally kicked your ass honest. TBH i was always disappointed that when the main -a- offensive started we were too screwed on the inside to really respond properly. If you compare the response to the invasion to the response around new years there is a massive difference.
So on that point it would be safe to assume you believe in santa claus, the easter bunny, the boogieman, that bob is winning, that ccp is impartial, you see where this is going dont you.................
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.07 10:43:00 -
[114]
AAA has been putting their blood in the first line for months against our enemies, helped us with a titan, are chill brosefs who helped our brosefs IAC. Evil Thug has also some kind of idol status within goonswarm.
On the other side there's KOS.
Draw your own conclusions. -clp
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Maranthas
Vengeance of the Fallen
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Posted - 2008.02.07 11:05:00 -
[115]
..and Russians stick together, no matter what.
Agreements, promises, reassurances - it's Joseph Stalin who said "v Politikie niet sentimentow"... so that is exactly what happened.
And, dont get me wrong - I also think that KOS in its shape was asking for it.
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CRUSH3R
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.07 11:24:00 -
[116]
Originally by: pimp dog Well now that kos is down to less then 300 people what will happen next. will -A- slow down and let us rebuild slowly under a new alliance, let us keep the last 2 systems we own, or let kos rebuild under kos. out of 4200 man alliance, and now down to less then 300 since -A- started to attack. that just shows everyone in eve that kos did have a bunch of wussies in it. if the corps that were in kos would have worked as a team and fought back against -A- we might have stoped them from taking c3-, but did we? no everyone got scared and ran to empire. ya the taining corp could have shut down the alliance and ran but we didn't because the few corps that are staying till the end wants to fight with the kos ticker and go out with pride knowing that they stayed till the end instead of running.
Pimp Dog
We took what we wanted to take. If you want to discuss your future in tenerifis - feel free to eve-mail me your offers.
CRUSH3R, AAA diplo.
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FellRaven
Minmatar STEEL FIST INCORPORATED
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:18:00 -
[117]
"So the time of KOS is done, there would be just 1 little chance for KOS to survive if -A- would let them a ssmall part of space with a station and set them blue for 6-9 month to let time to be stronger, but that would never happend, because -A- alone cant fight any stronger enemy. Except some extreme good pilots they are a BoL(Band of Loosers)"
I assume from this that you were not in C3 at any time during the war. AAA were in my opinion the most formidible opponent that KOS faced. We were easily able to defeat Solidus, Church and Stain gangs but never to my knowledge AAA. An certainly they were tactically far better organised than the other attackers. I'll let them keep their secrets and won't share here.
AAA won because we (KOS) were crap, the IAC attack caused alot of KOS to run back to empire fearing they would be trapped, leadership as discussed did not exist, there was no one corp big enough to hold it together but with all that said AAA knew what they were doing and did it well.
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raglah
Gallente Southern Cross Mining and Industrial
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:34:00 -
[118]
Originally by: pimp dog Well now that kos is down to less then 300 people what will happen next. will -A- slow down and let us rebuild slowly under a new alliance, let us keep the last 2 systems we own, or let kos rebuild under kos. out of 4200 man alliance, and now down to less then 300 since -A- started to attack. that just shows everyone in eve that kos did have a bunch of wussies in it. if the corps that were in kos would have worked as a team and fought back against -A- we might have stoped them from taking c3-, but did we? no everyone got scared and ran to empire. ya the taining corp could have shut down the alliance and ran but we didn't because the few corps that are staying till the end wants to fight with the kos ticker and go out with pride knowing that they stayed till the end instead of running.
Pimp Dog
the blame for KOS shrinking like it did was the leadership ! no if buts or ? the leader shouted and screemed about defending kos space [c3] whilst sitting in nzw in his dread docked? when some of us where busy hunting roaming parties in dz6 we where subjected to a tirade! he then said when we tried to sugest something? to leave if we did'nt like doing it his way? point or morale of post if you want people to follow you you must lead.listen,and have a plan? if you also want respect? you must give it to have it returned. also some of us could see the backstab from the allies[so called]but people would not listen. To the good [few] wing comanders i served under good luck with who ever your with? Raglah.
miner-trader-manufactorer.
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Wesley Baird
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:48:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Evil Thug has also some kind of idol status within goonswarm.
And outside the swarm!! I <3 Mr. Thug!! 
Dude plays the game the way its meant to be played!
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Liam Galagher
Savey
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Posted - 2008.02.07 18:19:00 -
[120]
let this thread die..... let it be as dead as KOS.
lets go -> DELVE! _________________________________________
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DogTyred
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:04:00 -
[121]
Any post thats not about Delve is worth keeping alive tbh
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Johnatan
VVS Corporition Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.07 23:57:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Firkragg
KOS would have totally kicked your ass honest. TBH i was always disappointed that when the main -a- offensive started we were too screwed on the inside to really respond properly. If you compare the response to the invasion to the response around new years there is a massive difference.
  
I will remember it.. KOS would have totally kicked our ass.... KOS would have totally kicked my ass.... KOS would... KOS couldn't even kick MY ass... What about an alliance where i'm dunno-what-number-in-queue-for-best-PVPer-of-the-week... But i will remember. KOS would... ---- start cut here ---- Evil Thug`s alt. ----- end cut here ----- |

Firkragg
PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2008.02.08 00:58:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Johnatan
Originally by: Firkragg
KOS would have totally kicked your ass honest. TBH i was always disappointed that when the main -a- offensive started we were too screwed on the inside to really respond properly. If you compare the response to the invasion to the response around new years there is a massive difference.
  
I will remember it.. KOS would have totally kicked our ass.... KOS would have totally kicked my ass.... KOS would... KOS couldn't even kick MY ass... What about an alliance where i'm dunno-what-number-in-queue-for-best-PVPer-of-the-week... But i will remember. KOS would...
Jesus did people not get the sarcasm of the first sentance...
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Jeremy Paxman
Special Doc
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Posted - 2008.02.08 05:27:00 -
[124]
Russians don't really "do" sarcasm.
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Chris Hansens
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Posted - 2008.02.08 05:32:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Jeremy Paxman Russians don't really "do" sarcasm.
yeah generally they just betray their allies and only watch out for themselves heehaw
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Orin Fatch
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.08 06:32:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Orin Fatch on 08/02/2008 06:32:15
Originally by: Chris Hansens
Originally by: Jeremy Paxman Russians don't really "do" sarcasm.
yeah generally they just betray their allies and only watch out for themselves heehaw
Bingo.>!
Also, there not all Russians in RA AAA UNL etc. Mainly leadership and few others. Its pretty spread across world wide. Dont give Russians all the credit.. please.>! 
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rValdez5987
Amarr Killed In Action The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.02.08 16:39:00 -
[127]
Its funny, when I remember that around this same time, KOS declared war on us, and then proceeded to crumble. It showed by the long lines of loot and bpo filled hauler kills that started showing up on killboards :D
Nonetheless, shame. Good luck in the future
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.08 21:55:00 -
[128]
AAA = all nationalities.
Less ethiopian since omeega left however.
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takeaway1031
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Posted - 2008.02.12 03:47:00 -
[129]
congrats to AAA and to poor KOS your carebear problems where there all along leaving the few pvp'ers to die. hince why I left 2 months ago glad I'm not there now... P.S. any one looking for hulks I got 2 stashed in stations out there eve mail me. <---my expression when i notice kos missing from the 0.0 map
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