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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.08 08:21:00 -
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I think it is time for me to express a personal point of view here.
Originally by: The Cosmopolite I think it is worth you noting that the reaction of one of the CVA's 'Holder' alliance vassals is to recommend you set us red despite the fact we do not shoot neutrals. I am glad you are ignoring them for the moment but be prepared for more of the same behind closed doors.
Let us open the doors shall we? It is clear that SF does follow their own rather twisted version of NRDS policy. It is also clear that you reserve the right to set anyone to red given prior notice. Finally, it is clear that your ultimate aim is to "free" Providence by removing CVA and any who support us or abide by the rules we set.
So if you should succeed in removing Severence (which you won't) who will be next on your list? Any who choose to make a living in Providence is likely to end on your list at some point. When will you be targetting GoGo and his corp/alliance?
CVA only demand that a resident of Providence do not engage in acts of piracy and limits his targets to known enemies of our rule. We do not demand that any resident should fight on our behalf or risk be declared our enemies. In reality, that is what both U'K and SF does.
Does that make you pirates? I think not. A pirate is one who fights simply for personal profit and cares not whom he targets. At least both your organisations have some sense of honour and apply your ROE's aimed at furthering your twisted political aims.
Of course the end result for the civilians plying their trade in Providence and who ends up under your guns is quite the same. I don't think it matters much if you're targetted by pirates or fanatics in the end. You must fight back or die. It is as simple as that.
Many have realized this. That is one of the reasons why the list of CVA friends who will actively support our efforts in Providence is so extensive as it is.
Q: How many Amarr does it take to change a light bulb? A: None, we have Minnies to do the menial chores. |

Octavinus Augustus
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.08 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Octavinus Augustus on 08/01/2008 16:29:50
Originally by: Jade Constantine
I donÆt think you ôgetö this discussion thread Rodj Blake. Let me explain it for you. This is the discussion where the CVA supporters attempt to pass themselves off as genuine free-spacers etc etc etc.
I donÆt think you ôgetö this discussion thread Jade Constantine. Let me explain it for you. This is the discussion where PAK has asked a series of questions regarding the policies of the various entities they are (more or less) likely to encounter in Providence.
Of course I reallize you'll find it a lot easier to accuse Rodj Blake and PIE of whatever herecies and piratical acts you can think of rather than actually remaining on topic.
Let me indulge you for a brief moment and let us suppose that PIE indeed does set PAK to -10 (which I seriously doubt they will).
If they do so, they are free to shoot at PAK according to the ROE's provided by PIE leadership (unless those ROE's have changed drastically since my membership of PIE).
However, if they should choose to slug it out with the neutral PAK while in Providence, they would be in clear breach of the CVA rules set for the behaviour accepted here. Being so, they would soon find themselves on our "red" list as legal targets for anyone in Providence.
So the natural course for them would be to disallow hostilities while in CVA controlled Providence. If I recall correctly, they have even followed this course of action in the past in their dealings with Slammer's Republic?
The men and women of PIE are honorable people. I have flown with them for more than a year, so I should know.
They (unlike yourself Ms Constantine) seem to linger under the impression that when visiting someone's home it is polite to abide by the rules set by the master of the house they are visiting.
So perhaps it is time to stop spewing blatant lies about an honorable organisation and get this discussion back on track Ms Constantine?
Q: How many Amarr does it take to change a light bulb? A: None, we have Minnies to do the menial chores. |

Octavinus Augustus
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.08 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus They (unlike yourself Ms Constantine) seem to linger under the impression that when visiting someone's home it is polite to abide by the rules set by the master of the house they are visiting.
The one thing we can agree on from your post Octavinus Auguster is that yes, PAK do appear to be acknowledging another force their "master" whereas Star Fraction and myself never will.
Which part of the master of the house they are visiting is giving you trouble? I culd try to explain it to you one more time, but would need to know which part is causing problems.
Incidentally I was referring to PIE. How PAK shall behave in Providence remains to be seen, but personally I'm more than prepared to give them a chance before judging them either way.
Q: How many Amarr does it take to change a light bulb? A: None, we have Minnies to do the menial chores. |
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