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Hamcraft
Bombshell Cartel Terror Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.07 20:06:00 -
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Well like I said, they could have just said "NO" or "bugger off" and proceeded to blob me, and I would have been perfectly fine with it.
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Stephannus Calimben
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2008.01.07 20:45:00 -
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i love how my calling the OP an idiot for expecting a 1v1 to be honoured leads to everyone calling my corp dishonourable
the number of honour monkeys in eve is FAR outweighed by the number of wow converts who just like seeing shiny ships go boom. people who ask for a 1v1 are giving far too much credit to the eve playerbase than 98% of them deserve. personally i think it takes all the fun out of the kill if you bait them out in such a lame way, but there's alot of people out there who dont care how they got it, so long as their BS kill count +1's
if you want a 1v1 you're better off roaming around until you FIND someone by themself, and kill them faster than their buddies can get there, battle on SISI as someone suggested, duel corpmates or alliance mates, or maybe place bets > value of the ship so that people have more incentive to kill you solo.
i still think its stupid and naive to expect people to honour them. every week has another few people whining about another corp "having no honour." You'd think that more people would be a little more cynical than this thread shows. ______________
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Hamcraft
Bombshell Cartel Terror Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.07 21:10:00 -
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alright, touchT.
you're right, I gave them more credit than they deserve. I think its kinda sad though, that EVE is like that. And though I appreciate the opinion I'm still going to continue being an "honour monkey" along with the others in this game, however many there may be.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.07 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a I've always felt this 'honor' business to be rather messy. Why expect anything but the worst when it comes to putting your time and ISK up for loss?
You wouldn't see a pack of wolves let one of their own 1v1 a wounded buffallo because it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense from a Darwinian perspective. Save tests of honor for something like gloves and opening the door for your wife.
Its people like you that fail the hardest. Are you infact trying to tell us that if you were offered a 1v1 you would disregard said rules after accepting and blob them anyway? Your sig burn is weak
If by "Your sig burn is weak" You mean that "Orar is obviuosly alot cooler then me and I fail Very hard" Then i concur with your statement |
Malka Badi'a
Suffoco Noctis
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Posted - 2008.01.07 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Orar Ironfist Its people like you that fail the hardest. Are you infact trying to tell us that if you were offered a 1v1 you would disregard said rules after accepting and blob them anyway?
You must be new here. Welcome to EVE. If I wanted fabricated rules and silly jests of "honor matches" I'd go jousting.
Or play Wow. ---------
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Originally by: Orar Ironfist Its people like you that fail the hardest. Are you infact trying to tell us that if you were offered a 1v1 you would disregard said rules after accepting and blob them anyway?
You must be new here. Welcome to EVE. If I wanted fabricated rules and silly jests of "honor matches" I'd go jousting.
Or play Wow.
Yea figured as much. Your answer pretty much says "Your damn straight id blob someone after accepting a 1v1 causei couldnt win it by myself"
BTW theres less honor in wow then here bro hence all the wow jokes Your sig burn is weak
If by "Your sig burn is weak" You mean that "Orar is obviuosly alot cooler then me and I fail Very hard" Then i concur with your statement |
Sapha
Solar Wind STELLAR LEGION
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:23:00 -
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...ohh noes! Just be happy it wasnt NOTR, they would have blown you up and then done nasty things to your corpes and then took pictures of your dead body floating in space next to your wreck.
Oh God it burns!
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:25:00 -
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Posting in a downhill thread.
Its a mmoRPG guys, you can play dishonorable, honorable or whatever you like but you can never expect others to play the same way you do.
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Malka Badi'a
Suffoco Noctis
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:29:00 -
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Quote: Yea figured as much. Your answer pretty much says "Your damn straight id blob someone after accepting a 1v1 causei couldnt win it by myself"
It's always the younger pilots that havn't learned that it isn't the individual loses that matter in this game. It's the results. ---------
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Quote: Yea figured as much. Your answer pretty much says "Your damn straight id blob someone after accepting a 1v1 causei couldnt win it by myself"
It's always the younger pilots that havn't learned that it isn't the individual loses that matter in this game. It's the results.
Besides the "your not that much older then me get over yourself" Individual losses Do matter. When it comes to wars more losses at the end means you lose(just in case you didnt know) Also Trust, Honor, and Respect are hard to obtain from people and extremely easy to lose. Considering how much of this game relies on peoples trust youd think youd try harder to not lose it Your sig burn is weak
If by "Your sig burn is weak" You mean that "Orar is obviuosly alot cooler then me and I fail Very hard" Then i concur with your statement |
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Malka Badi'a
Suffoco Noctis
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Orar Ironfist Besides the "your not that much older then me get over yourself" Individual losses Do matter. When it comes to wars more losses at the end means you lose(just in case you didnt know) Also Trust, Honor, and Respect are hard to obtain from people and extremely easy to lose. Considering how much of this game relies on peoples trust youd think youd try harder to not lose it
See, that is the spitting image of your blissful ignorance. You see the creation date of my placeholder, recreated after I deleted the origonal so that no one would attempt to "fake" my name. And you judge me based on the date alone.
I judge you based on your words and logic, because it is as much a failure to yourself as it is to those around you. Those I trust are trusted with no equivocations but on the basis that they've proven themselves to be people of intelligence and quality, not because of a code laid down by some royal family with the purpose of simply protecting themselves. If you choose to trust everyone to follow your own ethics then you will find nothing but harsh lessons when you face people such as myself.
I wash my hands of this sillyness. ---------
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Mo Steel
Caldari Sanguis vix Dignatio
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:52:00 -
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"Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud.ö ~Sophocles
ôOne of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust themö ~Thomas Sowell
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Malka Badi'a
Suffoco Noctis
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:56:00 -
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"What is honor but simply wanting to make sure they don't backstab you first?" - Big Bird ---------
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Saita
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2008.01.07 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Idaeus I stopped reading when you said you were in a drake.
/signed
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Mal Frogg
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Posted - 2008.01.08 00:17:00 -
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I was flying around 0.0 space myself the other day and this fleet of ships show up and say they want to see how tough my ship's guns were.. They told me they didnt have and guns and simply wanted to rate my attack strength. So I opened up on them and was immediately fired back upon by the whole fleet. Needless to say I died and I think it is bullcaca that anyone would lie to me. I am going to report this to someone who cares!
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HowlinMad Murdock
Caldari No Trademark
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Posted - 2008.01.08 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sapha ...ohh noes! Just be happy it wasnt NOTR, they would have blown you up and then done nasty things to your corpes and then took pictures of your dead body floating in space next to your wreck.
hey we don't do that to just anyone
and ham if you ever do want a fair 1v1 come on over, i'll put my drake up on yours, though like someone else said, i think i'll lose, but i'll give ya a good fight
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Nemar Tel'Narin
Solar Wind STELLAR LEGION
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Posted - 2008.01.08 01:12:00 -
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Yeah trust NOTR to a 1v1. I blew up a myrm in my brutix once. I'll give you that the guy really didn't try to fight but he did fire first shot. At any rate they gaked me like 7 on 1 just to get even for me attacking ONE of their members. Pt is after that in a few other scirmashes I've been into with them they always try to bait you, then gank.
Cheap mans Siggy
Catamarack: Nem, your momma's so fat, BoB thought she was a region and claimed her.
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Damares
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.01.08 01:27:00 -
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im yet to get an honoured 1v1.... however i tend not to accept 1v1's ill certainly loose
had a 1v1 with a ceo of a corp we were at war with, his cruiser raven vs whatever i wanted to undock in, i chose my torp raven, few vollies of mjolnir rage later he's into armour and his fleet warps in to save his ass, i still killed him and tanked till i could dock again (1v1 on stat ftw)
had one where i was killing a dude and a falcon uncloaked, jammed me, his mate warped away and that was the end of that.....
but yeh, 1v1 are usualy stupid, theyre good fun, but even though i never seem to get one where its just 2 players duking it out, i havent had one where a blob drops on me and ganks me right at the start of the fight.
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.08 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a "What is honor but simply wanting to make sure they don't backstab you first?" - Big Bird
That which is gotten cheaply is held in contempt.
Enjoy your cheap kills.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Hamcraft
Bombshell Cartel Terror Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.08 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: General Coochie Its a mmoRPG guys, you can play dishonorable, honorable or whatever you like but you can never expect others to play the same way you do.
I'm not saying its some sort of exploit that they did what they did. When I compared them to scammers in Jita--well no one gets CCP punishment for running contract scams, or claiming they'll give back 10x what you send them in local then not following through. All I'm saying is it was dishonorable, shameful, and cowardice of them, not to mention very disappointing. Basically, I'm calling them *******s and explaining why. I have drawn attention to them as having a faulty reputation. How is this a problem?
And hell yes, whenever I get the chance of a decent 1v1 I'm going to take it. This horse likes his EVE jousting.
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Hamcraft
Bombshell Cartel Terror Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.08 02:32:00 -
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Quote: 2008.01.08 00:48 Sorry Dude, I just see your kill and thread on Eve board. While u needed to be popped because flying in NBSI space, the way it was done is a shame. Investigation is running so those things will not happen anymore. Fly Safe o/
That's all I wanted. Issue resolved.
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Nagen
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Posted - 2008.01.08 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Quote: Yea figured as much. Your answer pretty much says "Your damn straight id blob someone after accepting a 1v1 causei couldnt win it by myself"
It's always the younger pilots that havn't learned that it isn't the individual loses that matter in this game. It's the results.
some of us learn that the goal does not justify the means way before we start playing EVE dishonoring 1vs1 they showed disrespect towards the OP and towards their own alliance members in whom they clearly have no faith to win and all to get some killmail, i hope the "result" was worth it
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Casino Alkasar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.08 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Casino Alkasar on 08/01/2008 04:48:38
Originally by: Malka Badi'a "What is honor but simply wanting to make sure they don't backstab you first?" - Big Bird
pure bitterness
i would not expect any honor from another player in EVE outside my alli, but i do like to akt honorfull to other players...realy ..its no lie
it does pay out in the long run and it dosent make me feel great living of cheap tricks. Going the easy way... some say its clever some say its weak willpower _________________ itze mine |
Corstaad
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.08 04:50:00 -
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Sorry I've played way to many PvP games to think 1vs1 is fair.
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Archonus
Amarr Solar Wind STELLAR LEGION
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:08:00 -
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Haha. "Honor" and all that crap in a game. lol.
I was in local, and would've loved to help them gank you.
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Mort Carnate
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:12:00 -
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More cargo extenders STAT!
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a I've always felt this 'honor' business to be rather messy. Why expect anything but the worst when it comes to putting your time and ISK up for loss?
You wouldn't see a pack of wolves let one of their own 1v1 a wounded buffallo because it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense from a Darwinian perspective. Save tests of honor for something like gloves and opening the door for your wife.
This all coming from the guy who shot his own alliance mates with his alt for a few kills. A few frigate kills. Hmm yeah, stay in the pen.
Nonetheless, good to see that Tenth Legion are taking a loot into this. -
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:29:00 -
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Lame.. Where in Syndicate do these guys live? I want to pay them a visit :)
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ry ry
StateCorp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:32:00 -
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by honour you mean cargo mods, right?
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zorgluba
Doom Guard
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: zorgluba on 09/01/2008 15:54:32 Ham, i don't know you, you sounds like a decent guy but I find disapointing you drag a whole alliance in mud for something 8 guy did.
Some people honor 1v1 and take pride in it. Some don't and don't care.
My advice for next time : only agree to a 1v1 with a character you know (think ?) will honour it.
Blame and shame all you want players/characters that don't honour 1v1, but don't trash a whole ally.
Edit : spelling and also
Originally by: Hamcraft
That's all I wanted. Issue resolved.
I pod ... nano |
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