Tauranon
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.10 11:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Qui Shon
Edited by: Qui Shon on 09/01/2008 23:25:24
Okay so I timed Serp/Guri WC, this time with a combined on-paper dps of 1220 (1050 Thermal + 175kin) at 39-40km and as low as 870 (795 Kin + 75 Therm) at 75-85km, from warp in to everything killed took 45minutes.
Not being distracted by chat could maybe shave a minute or two off that, as could manually controlling the second char, instead of just using the 'Guard Qui' command. I.e. by manually focusing the firepower of both ships. It could also be little or no time would be saved, dunno for sure. Faction ammo would raise the number a tad, but not significantly, as would more suitable long range ammo (not much). Switching droneship to 2x sentry rigs, maybe with capbooster would add ~40dps. AB would demand some sacrifice, but I'll give it a go next time. 2*30km + 20km takes a while at 140m/s.
In a couple weeks the paper dps number should grow to about 1330, a couple months about 1400-1450. If I had two of me and fastforwarded a year I think 1400 tank dps (@45km) would be realistic, and maybe ~1800 gank dps (@45km), though this is something I'd get to use very very rarely. Berserk, Serp Extra, maybe some others. Switching to Exp drones takes off ~70dps /ship, EM 100, Kin 130.
So, with more skills I'm looking at maybe 15% more paper dps, which might shave 10% of completion time if I'm lucky (wild guess). The difference to your time of 22,5 is still large enough to give me pause. Perhaps I should re-evaluate different possibilities. My alt won't train much more combat skills for some time, but I could complete my Raven skills, something I was planning to do sooner or later anyway. Maybe it'll be sooner.
The biggest drawback of the sentry specialized Domi is the same as the earth tanks of old, can't both move and shoot. Ogres would work for this, but I haven't got T2 Ogres.
EDIT:
Right Hand of Zazz - 4min (warp in to warp out)
Remember that the times presented above are combat times, and serp/guri WC is vastly faster if you use a hackers card. You miss up to 80 kms of transit flight, and don't have to kill a mixed bunch of frigates, cruisers, battleships with the card. Your 45 mins can't be realistically compared, as you probably had 33% more combat, and you have included transit time (which has not been included at the top), and you might have also cleared unnecessary battleships in the final pocket. There are 3 seperate groups superimposed on each other, at most only 1 set aggroes unless you move, and another set completes the mission. The last set doesn't need to be aggroed.
I'd also say you are not getting much value from your double ship setup for this mission. My single ship completion time is around 1 hour, with probably less than 600 paper dps. I get 190 dps from guns, but only have DI IV, BS IV which means I don't have full drone dps as yet.
Probably because of how much time you spend flying on that mission and not shooting.
Note that I use a domi with 5x350s + ogre IIs, with a webber, painter and magstab, tracking implant (5%) and can bring full dps to bear on pretty much all cruiser and battleship targets, even if they orbit me closely (which is definately an issue in the second/third pocket).
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