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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
Galactic Research
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Posted - 2008.01.09 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 09/01/2008 12:43:11
I'm just curious plus I bet I will laugh plenty. Fine goods for fine gentlemen hahah
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Mr Horizontal
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.09 12:50:00 -
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1. Original IPO
2. Expansion
3. Scam announcement
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Kyrial Tidolfas
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Posted - 2008.01.09 13:30:00 -
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case study eh?
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
Galactic Research
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas
case study eh?
Yes, a classical example of a tumbling snowball trust scam.
While the signs of scam were not there for everyone to see I must ask why no one audited his dealings once the first IPO was in place? He claimed to intend to expand his trade ops to more regions. Do you people know how hard it is to run regional orders in just one region? hahah
Now let's take a closer look at how he managed to fool you:
The guy might or might not have had some money, uses a verified fact in this case the trading between Minmatar areas and Jita being profitable, then he diverts your attention from the obvious (he has no collateral to put up) to the fact that he's been playing eve since who cares when (he's willing to prove it but he can't), long enough for someone to invest a tiny sum, (Ricdic's investment although a personal decision was the one thing that drew the crowd)
and from then on it's just downhill.
The one part that really made the reading effort worth it was when he asked people not to post their share purchases in the forum because of it being regarded as a bump. Hahaha
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Kushion
Anti Sweden Defense Force
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Posted - 2008.01.09 20:40:00 -
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Hmmm... beware of silver-tongued snakes, eh? The moral of the story seems to be don't invest based on what you think of the guy, but on how he answers important questions. The whole thing was riddled with warning signs. I'm a bit surprised Ricdic fell for it though - a lesson for him, I suppose.
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Death4free
Caldari
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.09 22:01:00 -
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meh props for him it takes brains and alot of skill to con ppl outa their isk
if u got burned it serves u right ^^
/endtroll
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YouGotRipped
Gallente
Ewigkeit
Galactic Research
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Posted - 2008.01.09 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe
Originally by: Ricdic in game convo
[ 2007.11.17 00:12:46 ] EBANK Ricdic > hey
[ 2007.11.17 00:12:51 ] Riethe > How goes?
[ 2007.11.17 00:12:58 ] EBANK Ricdic > not too bad :D
[ 2007.11.17 00:13:04 ] EBANK Ricdic > so, what do you do in-game
[ 2007.11.17 00:13:10 ] EBANK Ricdic > to make that 22% return?
[ 2007.11.17 00:13:13 ] Riethe > On Riethe? or in general?
[ 2007.11.17 00:13:14 ] EBANK Ricdic > and is this a scam :D
[ 2007.11.17 00:13:21 ] EBANK Ricdic > well your venture
[ 2007.11.17 00:13:49 ] Riethe > Is this a scam? well that's not the friendliest question i've heard. If you're genuinely asking me, though, no, it's not
[ 2007.11.17 00:14:08 ] EBANK Ricdic > I am trying to justify EBANK taking a sizable investment
[ 2007.11.17 00:14:12 ] Riethe > Riethe is my face, communications, interactions, nothing more.
[ 2007.11.17 00:14:21 ] EBANK Ricdic > please don't take offence :)
[ 2007.11.17 00:14:49 ] Riethe > I take no offense, although it is a rather confrontational question to present, i'm sure you understand that
[ 2007.11.17 00:14:50 ] EBANK Ricdic > I can't relally think of what to ask you
[ 2007.11.17 00:15:05 ] EBANK Ricdic > yup, better than beting around the bush :)
[ 2007.11.17 00:15:09 ] EBANK Ricdic > *beating
[ 2007.11.17 00:15:29 ] EBANK Ricdic > ok you have sold me
[ 2007.11.17 00:15:32 ] EBANK Ricdic > how many you have left?
[ 2007.11.17 00:17:44 ] Riethe > Well, "left" is subjective. There are reservations that have not been filled. Total un-claimed shares, all encompassing, is about 13000. A few investors have suggested interested in making a large purchase, but it's so ambiguous that i'm not sure.
[ 2007.11.17 00:18:38 ] Riethe > When you initially asked me, as i told you before, it was around 5000 (of the 10000). however through my discussions, some of these reservations have been postponed as a lack of current available liquid assets to make the purchase
[ 2007.11.17 00:18:51 ] EBANK Ricdic > understood
[ 2007.11.17 00:18:53 ] EBANK Ricdic > it happens
[ 2007.11.17 00:19:07 ] EBANK Ricdic > ok well EBANK will take 2.5b worth now
[ 2007.11.17 00:19:15 ] EBANK Ricdic > if that's ok :)
[ 2007.11.17 00:19:58 ] Riethe > That is perfectly acceptable. I place no limitations on purchases as I feel if i were investing myself, I would not want to feel restrained by arbitrary limitations
[ 2007.11.17 00:20:21 ] Riethe > I feel it's entirely up to an investor to set their own limitations based on their own gut feeling
[ 2007.11.17 00:20:42 ] EBANK Ricdic > ok well my gut says you are AOK
[ 2007.11.17 00:20:55 ] Riethe > Well i definitely appreciate the way your gut regards me )
[ 2007.11.17 00:20:56 ] EBANK Ricdic > and my gut hasn't been wrong for a long time :
[ 2007.11.17 00:20:59 ] EBANK Ricdic > so don't screw it up :D
[ 2007.11.17 00:21:20 ] EBANK Ricdic > or else the board won't trust me to make these big decisions any more lol
Is this really the person you'd like to have throwing around all your money? Trust? You trust this? Clearly the foundation and discipline of a market guru.
Oh, and "Ricdic," the moment you reply to this you're wasting your time. Consider that.
Happy thoughts.
Ok, notice how from the start the scammer takes the initiative and from the one questioned becomes the questioner. Then diverting attention from having to explain his venture (he knows he's totally lost if he gets there) he manages to convey the feeling of embarrassment upon his interlocutor to the point poor Ricdic no longer feels the need to ask about Riethe's dealing but wants to get it done and exit the conversation. Once there, all he has to do is flaunt his vocabulary further and determine the interlocutor to feel inferior and even admire him.
I still believe that this scam could have been foiled if someone audited his "legitimate" business.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.09 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped
Ok, notice how from the start the scammer takes the initiative and from the one questioned becomes the questioner. Then diverting attention from having to explain his venture (he knows he's totally lost if he gets there) he manages to convey the feeling of embarrassment upon his interlocutor to the point poor Ricdic no longer feels the need to ask about Riethe's dealing but wants to get it done and exit the conversation.
Actually we had about 2-3 hours worth of conversation prior to that chatlog. That wasn't posted but it was kinda a getting to know you type setup, just chatting about various stuff etc. After spending a considerable amount of time chatting with Riethe with no intention to buy (at the time) I thought he was a decent bloke, doing the right thing. Unfortunately it was a social engineering job, all that hard work paid off for him. So my decision to invest wasn't based on a 15 line convo that gets portrayed here.
Anyway, I hadn't met someone like Riethe before. Someone who uses friendship as a means to steal off you. He can call it RP or whatever he wants, but our convo's weren't RP'ing, they were (imo) chatting between mates. The Riethe issue caused me to sell a phenomenal amount of mine and EBANK's stocks as I didn't know who I could trust any more. Now I barely ever invest either.
Good or bad, who knows. The only thing I learnt from the ordeal is that there are people like Riethe in the game. In a game such as Eve where there is so much social interaction, trust requirements etc, such a blatant form of social engineering is like backstabbing your friend. Riethe feels differently about this apparently.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043
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Kushion
Anti Sweden Defense Force
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Posted - 2008.01.10 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Anyway, I hadn't met someone like Riethe before. Someone who uses friendship as a means to steal off you. He can call it RP or whatever he wants, but our convo's weren't RP'ing, they were (imo) chatting between mates. The Riethe issue caused me to sell a phenomenal amount of mine and EBANK's stocks as I didn't know who I could trust any more. Now I barely ever invest either.
Good or bad, who knows. The only thing I learnt from the ordeal is that there are people like Riethe in the game. In a game such as Eve where there is so much social interaction, trust requirements etc, such a blatant form of social engineering is like backstabbing your friend. Riethe feels differently about this apparently.
You know all those pirates in lowsec? Most of them would use friendship to rip you off, too, except that they lack the "skill" or tact to accomplish it. There are a lot of people out there who don't care what they have to do to accomplish their goals. Luckily for us, smart criminals are (thankfully) quite rare. Hell, you got off easy. Just look at the Guiding Hand Social club thing, or the Evolution theft. Those guys managed to lie to the face of people they claimed to care about for months for a reward of virtual money.
I think your knee-jerk reaction to being burned is a tad excessive, though. Yes, he appeared to be a nice guy, and he betrayed your trust. But if you had judged his IPO based on the information he provided, not on the pretty words he typed, you might have (SHOULD have) handled it differently. Investing in IPOs - ESPECIALLY if you put money down before a full audit/before all doubts are cleared - is a risky business. Every time you send a random person money, you take a risk. But it's a risk with a reward. It's not much different than making a hauling run through lowsec - you might lose everything, but you also might make a huge profit. If you get good enough at it, you'll make more profit than you take losses. When you invested in Riethe's IPO, you made your decision based more on feeling than with your head. And from where I'm standing, your decision to dump stocks and stop investing seems to be using your head even less.
I think one of the biggest problems with this forum is the willingness of investors to throw money at an IPO before the evidence is presented/verified in an effort to snap it up before others get there first. No one wants to lose out on a good offer, but there should be basic security procedures that are adhered to before everyone starts throwing money around. If someone claims to have assets, proof should be posted before the money starts to fly. If they don't have any assets/provable assets, the only person you can blame for sinking a significant amount of money into them is yourself. I don't like scammers, and I despite people like Riethe. But it's the responsibility of the investor to make sure their investment was a wise one. Had Riethe been poorly literate with an abrasive personality, would you have invested as much? Invest based on the validity of their IPO, not on how flowery their words are.
I apologize if I seem a bit harsh. It's just the way I see it.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.10 01:52:00 -
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Yeh Kushion that's why I footed the bill. Because I used my gut when investing based on my relationship with him, not the facts. I still think it's rotten and it hadn't happened to me before in that fashion hence my kinda holding a grudge over it.
I have learnt from it, but it means that 1 scam by Riethe causes me to deny potentially 10-20 legitimates.
Such is eve.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043
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Kyrial Tidolfas
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Posted - 2008.01.10 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kushion
Hmmm... beware of silver-tongued snakes, eh? The moral of the story seems to be don't invest based on what you think of the guy, but on how he answers important questions. The whole thing was riddled with warning signs. I'm a bit surprised Ricdic fell for it though - a lesson for him, I suppose.
yes. My IPO should also not be judged by what i say in what thread but how I intend to pay you for your investment.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.01.10 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas
Originally by: Kushion
Hmmm... beware of silver-tongued snakes, eh? The moral of the story seems to be don't invest based on what you think of the guy, but on how he answers important questions. The whole thing was riddled with warning signs. I'm a bit surprised Ricdic fell for it though - a lesson for him, I suppose.
yes. My IPO should also not be judged by what i say in what thread but how I intend to pay you for your investment.
LOL. You've got to be kidding. Your IPO WILL be judged by how you conduct yourself. If you come off as someone who is rash and untrustworthy people will not care if you have the best plan in the world, you'll get nothing.
A person's character is by far the most important thing in deciding if an investment is worthwhile. I would invest billions in someone I thought was trustworthy and a good person but didn't have a good plan and not a penny in a stupid/rude/arrogant/annoying person who seemed to have the best plan in the history of EVE IPO's.
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Kyrial Tidolfas
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Posted - 2008.01.10 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas
Originally by: Kushion
Hmmm... beware of silver-tongued snakes, eh? The moral of the story seems to be don't invest based on what you think of the guy, but on how he answers important questions. The whole thing was riddled with warning signs. I'm a bit surprised Ricdic fell for it though - a lesson for him, I suppose.
yes. My IPO should also not be judged by what i say in what thread but how I intend to pay you for your investment.
LOL. You've got to be kidding. Your IPO WILL be judged by how you conduct yourself. If you come off as someone who is rash and untrustworthy people will not care if you have the best plan in the world, you'll get nothing.
A person's character is by far the most important thing in deciding if an investment is worthwhile. I would invest billions in someone I thought was trustworthy and a good person but didn't have a good plan and not a penny in a stupid/rude/arrogant/annoying person who seemed to have the best plan in the history of EVE IPO's.
much like how you invested in riethe no doubt. did you think he was a good and trustworthy character?
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.01.10 02:54:00 -
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Edited by: Treelox on 10/01/2008 02:55:10
Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas
Originally by: Shadarle
LOL. You've got to be kidding. Your IPO WILL be judged by how you conduct yourself. If you come off as someone who is rash and untrustworthy people will not care if you have the best plan in the world, you'll get nothing.
A person's character is by far the most important thing in deciding if an investment is worthwhile. I would invest billions in someone I thought was trustworthy and a good person but didn't have a good plan and not a penny in a stupid/rude/arrogant/annoying person who seemed to have the best plan in the history of EVE IPO's.
much like how you invested in riethe no doubt. did you think he was a good and trustworthy character?
Lol you are just digging your hole even deeper, I am 99.99% sure that Shad did not invest in Riethe. For that matter neither did I.
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fixed broken quotes.
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.10 02:57:00 -
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Some got burned by Reithe - but even so, "e-trust" is still one of the biggest factors when deciding whether to invest or not. Not the only factor mind you. Forum-Personality will always play a big part in these game-based situations where we're not able to meet people in real life.
Anyone can copy and paste a decent investment template and wing good answers in a forum post. How you come off personality wise, when we start applying a little pressure and critisising your plans is a major key to trying to get a gut feel for who you might be.
It's all of that and a lot of luck :P
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Kyrial Tidolfas
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Posted - 2008.01.10 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox
Edited by: Treelox on 10/01/2008 02:55:10
Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas
Originally by: Shadarle
LOL. You've got to be kidding. Your IPO WILL be judged by how you conduct yourself. If you come off as someone who is rash and untrustworthy people will not care if you have the best plan in the world, you'll get nothing.
A person's character is by far the most important thing in deciding if an investment is worthwhile. I would invest billions in someone I thought was trustworthy and a good person but didn't have a good plan and not a penny in a stupid/rude/arrogant/annoying person who seemed to have the best plan in the history of EVE IPO's.
much like how you invested in riethe no doubt. did you think he was a good and trustworthy character?
Lol you are just digging your hole even deeper, I am 99.99% sure that Shad did not invest in Riethe. For that matter neither did I.
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fixed broken quotes.
the following is copypasta from riethe "it's a trap" thread
Originally by: Riethe
Dear Shadarle,
I think you're just an absolute foul soul on these forums and you treat everyone in such a condescending, unfriendly manner.
Nothing brings me more pleasure than being able to steal your personal ISK.
You claim that you were able to place this investment because you didn't mind losing 1 billion ISK.
As true as that may be, what you did lose, however, was the part of you that finally chose to commit to this investment. And I think considering your post history and your general behavioral patterns, this actually makes this loss a lot greater than you might be willing to admit to.
You're so opinionated about how to do every flipping thing regarding the markets, yet you refuse to do anything yourself and actually prove to anyone you are capable of these things.
You're such a fake individual with so many security issues that you mask it through your rough attitude on these forums and probably in game as well.
I hope that suits you.
Why am i digging my hole bigger?? is it because i am offending the mighty shadarle, the tsar of this forum?
so me challenging shadarle's statement about how using character to judge an investment is flawed, is digging myself a bigger hole??
why is that so? either because i am wrong? which i doubt. or i am arguing against the wrong person.
or it is my method and style of rhetoric i used?
i think its a combination of both my style, which one could say reflect my personality, the thing most likely under fire here and the fact that i am "nobody" challenging the mighty "regular" and people who are just passing by are happy to assume shadarle words are wise and don't look at whatI say and what he says based on their merits.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.01.10 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas
Why am i digging my hole bigger?? is it because i am offending the mighty shadarle, the tsar of this forum?
so me challenging shadarle's statement about how using character to judge an investment is flawed, is digging myself a bigger hole??
why is that so? either because i am wrong? which i doubt. or i am arguing against the wrong person.
or it is my method and style of rhetoric i used?
i think its a combination of both my style, which one could say reflect my personality, the thing most likely under fire here and the fact that i am "nobody" challenging the mighty "regular" and people who are just passing by are happy to assume shadarle words are wise and don't look at whatI say and what he says based on their merits.
Nothing wrong with challenging the "establishment". It is the manner that I and I would guess many others percieve in which you are doing it.
I guess that means then that it would have fit under your "method and style of rhetoric i used" concept. IMO there is nothing wrong with your "method and style of rhetoric", what is wrong is you lack the tact to know when to properly and effectively apply it.
I hope you have enjoyed this little bit of feedback, cause I know I have. Seriously before responding ponder what I wrote here, or dont and continue to rub the cats fur the wrong way.
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cosmoray
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Posted - 2008.01.10 03:54:00 -
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Something is not right here. YouGotRipped has turned up in these forums linking conversations that people may or may not have posted.
Trolling Riethe's scams.
Me thinks that YouGotRipped is another Reithe ALT trying to stir more trouble in a desparate attempt to stay in the spotlight.
As far as I am concerned I do not trust YouGotRipped 1oz.
(sorry mate if you are genuine bloke my gut says you aren't).
If he starts a bond/IPO its a scam. My two cents worth!
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Tatania Apparition
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Posted - 2008.01.10 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
Something is not right here. YouGotRipped has turned up in these forums linking conversations that people may or may not have posted.
Trolling Riethe's scams.
Me thinks that YouGotRipped is another Reithe ALT trying to stir more trouble in a desparate attempt to stay in the spotlight.
As far as I am concerned I do not trust YouGotRipped 1oz.
(sorry mate if you are genuine bloke my gut says you aren't).
If he starts a bond/IPO its a scam. My two cents worth!
YouGotRipped already has a venture he tried to start.
I think Riethe would just love it if he were able to take more people's money with a name like that.
Notice that Riethe hasn't been seen since he popped up.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.01.10 04:49:00 -
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Ah yes. The wonders of hindsight... 
Whats the point of this thread?
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Kaptein Trefot
Calista Industries
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.10 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Yeh Kushion that's why I footed the bill. Because I used my gut when investing based on my relationship with him, not the facts. I still think it's rotten and it hadn't happened to me before in that fashion hence my kinda holding a grudge over it.
I have learnt from it, but it means that 1 scam by Riethe causes me to deny potentially 10-20 legitimates.
Such is eve.
Its seems Riethe took much more from you then a few isk.
And if Riethe is the jackass you potrait him to be, I'm guessing that means more to him then the isk he gained from you.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.10 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas
so me challenging shadarle's statement about how using character to judge an investment is flawed, is digging myself a bigger hole??
Sure, you are correct. Using 'anything' to judge an investment is flawed. All we can do is use our best guess. Sure, I agree things like audits should have been done with Riethe. We (as a community) screwed up on this section. But you are suggesting that a person's persona/character should not be used when determining an investment. That is insane.
How do you think EBANK is as big as it is. Sure we have the board of director's etc, but a lot of EBANK customers have worked with me in the past. Sure, I could have been concocting a social manipulation for the last 2 years in the effort to pull the greatest scam known to Eve. Thats a risk that we must take. We take our personal opinions into account when investing, we take our standings on the person in question etc.
We don't just invest because of a pretty business plan, or because you have manipulated the nanofiber I market in Jita for 13 minutes. We invest based on a lot of variables but to me personally a person's character is number 1. If I can speak to someone for over an hour without them even mentioning a loan/investment they are offering then that usually gives me insight into their true intentions.
Obviously in the case of Riethe I was wrong. But prior to Riethe I have done the same thing with 20-40 other people and had a successfull outcome. I don't do things in the same fashion any more (well I do a little but I limit investment far more than I used too)
So yes, the character of a person means a lot to me. Your character was tainted when you put that post up, and exacerbated when you have started this crusade against people thinking you are being victimised.
There is no 'elite' club in Eve. Just about everyone on the MD forums have had heated conversations with each other.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.10 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kaptein Trefot
Its seems Riethe took much more from you then a few isk.
You would be correct. ISK in itself is just play money. I have enough for 2.5b to not exactly bankrupt me  . The social manipulation was the part that annoyed me as it was a virgin experience for me.
Quote:
And if Riethe is the jackass you potrait him to be, I'm guessing that means more to him then the isk he gained from you.
Probably 
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043
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Kaptein Trefot
Calista Industries
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.10 05:24:00 -
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Edited by: Kaptein Trefot on 10/01/2008 05:24:26
Well you shouldnt let him get to you 
Look at it this way; you paid 2.5b to find out that Riethe, who you had begun to see as a friend, couldnt be trusted and thats a bargin no matter how you look at it. I would gladly pay that any day to find out that someone i trust, cant be trusted.
What I wouldnt do is let that guy stop me from trusting ppl again or effect my game in any other way.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.10 05:26:00 -
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hehe easier said than done. When it happened I removed everyone's roles from C-R-A so people couldn't even take their own goods out of the hangars 
I then went back through and resecured everything to make sure there were no loopholes or parts I had missed.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043
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Kushion
Anti Sweden Defense Force
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Posted - 2008.01.10 05:37:00 -
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I have learnt from it, but it means that 1 scam by Riethe causes me to deny potentially 10-20 legitimates.
Just look at it in terms of profit. You've been investing for a while; you've made a lot of profit. So long as your bottom line isn't in the red, you can consider all your efforts a success. How many billions have you made using your usual investment techniques? I'm guessing the 2.5b loss is a drop in the bucket for you. If you deny those 10-20 businesses, how much profit will you lose in the long run just to avoid one potential scam? If 9/10 of everything you invest in doesn't scam you, my guess is you'll be making a decent profit. Don't take the scam personally. Think of it like a hauler loss. You took a risk, it didn't pay off. 90% of the time, though, it does. And don't let that little twit ruin your faith in humanity or your enjoyment of eve. While people like him exist, they're not in the majority. How many cool peeps have you met in eve VS how many total ****s have you met?
If you ever fall for a scam again - and I'm guessing you will, in time - you'll probably feel like crap, and the community will rip you a new one for being that gullible. But hey, hindsight is always 20/20. The best you can do is learn from your mistakes and move on. So long as you're making a profit at the end of the day, you're winning.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.01.10 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
hehe easier said than done. When it happened I removed everyone's roles from C-R-A so people couldn't even take their own goods out of the hangars
I then went back through and resecured everything to make sure there were no loopholes or parts I had missed.
TBH when your running a corp of more than a couple indivduals, its always good to run a security audit every few months.
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Riethe
Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:42:00 -
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Sorry, is it too late to post here? I was totally just ego searching my name (because you know I love all the attention) and found this.
YouGotRipped is not me, and the conversations he made reference to can be found in the various RHCRP threads, there's not much more to it.
Shadarle invested 1000m isk
Ricdic invested 2575m I believe.
I never really tracked it all that well, but the biggest single-investor was around 3200m.
There was also some guy named Votee who apparently is a rich man (but doesn't want anyone to know. Whoops.)
Since we're having fun with quotes and logs,
Originally by: Hexxx
[ 2007.12.29 04:11:32 ] Hexxx > it's the holidays and i'm surviving the "family thing"
[ 2007.12.29 04:11:44 ] Hexxx > if it seems like i've been in a sour mood lately, now you know why
[ 2007.12.29 04:12:52 ] Hexxx > i've been channeling shar tegal
Hexxx taking a shot at shar is always amusing.
Originally by: Olari Vanderfall
2007.11.23 00:10
I deposited 500M in your account a few days ago. Just confirming I'll be receiving shares soon.
I just found this one amusing because he confirmed for me that he'd be receiving the shares. Saved me a ton of work!
And last one for now:
Originally by: Sikozu Prioris
2008.01.01 04:00
As you may remember I never actually got any shares but can I get a buyback for the ones I am owed? I am owed 500 shares/500mill and I am open to a buyback.
Many thanks
Sikozu
Some people just don't get it.
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Astonishing thread to read.
Astonishing that this ipo ever got off the ground really
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
Endless Horizon
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Originally by: Mtberalt
Astonishing that this ipo ever got off the ground really
Maybe, but if nothing else it was a learning experience for me, at least. It was one of the first ventures I invested in on this forum, myself being relatively new here, and had some loose ISK. I originally invested because he seemed like a very personable... well, person... and everyone else seemed to be responding well to him as well. This, coupled with the fact that it was open and hadn't been just up and bought out by one or two people, made me jump in it. This was my mistake, of course. Since then, I've had a healthy bit of caution for any investment opportunity that comes along. I do my own research on it, think for myself whether it's worth me investing in or not, and go from there. With the recent flux of 1-2b ISK requests, I've been researching those characters and sometimes posting about the ones that I don't see them as legit,(pretty much all of them aren't, though sometimes I just can't be arsed to post and others seem to do the same I do anyway) and all that.
Most people don't like him or flat out hate him. Some people do more than others as he does like to rub them the wrong way intentionally as I've seen it. While I didn't like what he did and originally losing my ISK of course, the fact is he played everyone who invested and did it well enough to set up probably the rest of his EVE playing career fairly well. Social engineering like he did I can respect at it's base, as reading the Nightfreeze and GHSC stories is what originally brought me to EVE in the first place. Just the fact that the game allowed that without intervention from GMs and that freedom made me want to check it out. It was interesting, at least. At the end of the day, I was responsible for what I do with my ISK, and I made a bad decision with it. I accepted that and moved on.
Other people still hold a big grudge, and feel betrayed on a personal level, but that's their call. I myself just saw it as business that went bad. (And, well, considerably less bad for me, some time after the fact.)
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