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Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Warrio Let me summerise: It would appear the op is seeking a: Cloaking, MWDing, DPSing, Tanking, Tackling, Cap stable, Plated MONSTER SHIP.
WTB same ship will trade in every other ship i have for it
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Razor on 10/01/2008 11:10:22 Super cap scraming
4x FMP ll 1x warp dist field gen
1x medium electrochemical 1x web ll 1x 10mn mwd
1x med repper ll 1x EM hardener ll 1x them hardener ll 1x kinetic hardener ll 1x EANM ll 1x Suitcase ll
1x thermic rig 1x CCC
without the MWD running can run everything only using 200 charges in the booster this setup can tank any DD blast with my skills: 115k EM 90.5k Therm 127k Kin 125k exp
if you are taking on a titan i should hope that cap/ armor reppers are going to be the least of your problem as it is you keeping the titan inplace so you should have atleast a few remote reps on you from you capitol support. with a DD blast as it is instant damage you do not need your rep running constant so my setup does not need the charges the charges are only there for running the repper.
yes i do have 1-5 slave implants to get them effective hp if i remove them i get: 97k em 77k therm 107k kin 108k exp
wow a ship with no faction mods and no implants that can tank all 4 DD blasts overpowerd my arse
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Next JoJo the troll will tell you it must fit biggest tier guns too [:lol:
Wait, I think they actually fit on that setup. Omg.
im scramming a titan or MS which is being ponded on by multiple dreads i dont think they will miss a bit of dps. if you not planning on scramming a MS/TITAN there are fits that also do alot of dps such as below:
4x heavy pulse ll 1x warp dist field gen
10mn mwd web medium electro chemical
2x med armor rep 2x eanm ll 1x heat sink ll 1x cap power relay
2x rep amount rigs
does 275 dps and tanks 621 dps
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Razor on 10/01/2008 12:20:00
Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Originally by: Neon Razor
im scramming a titan or MS which is being ponded on by multiple dreads i dont think they will miss a bit of dps. if you not planning on scramming a MS/TITAN there are fits that also do alot of dps such as below:
Titan activates doomsday. You die. Oynx/Broadsword pilots laugh and keep locks on.
Please read before posting
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 12:36:00 -
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devoter setup
i apolgize in my original setup i forgot to write down the 1600 plate fitted and that is why it had 1 spair low slot
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 12:56:00 -
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ok since i can fly a devoter and onyx i have put both through EFT to see what i come up with.
Devoter effective hp: em 120k therm 77k kin 162k exp 130k devoter dps = 162 cap stable aslong as 200 charges are available
Onyx effective hp: 109k EM 160k therm 102k kin 76k exp dps= 161 cap stable
both setups have mwd fitted but turned off.
onyx compared to devoter
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 13:01:00 -
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with the onyx with HAM ll's and faction ammo it does 162dps
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 13:26:00 -
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Jonny JoJo this setup is just for you. it does more dps than an onyx has more effective hp than an onyx
JoJo can you find a fault with this setup
its a setup thats cap stable has a mwd can tank all 4 titan DD blasts does better damage than a onyx with HAM's and can scram a titan for over 10 mins well aslong as you need it to
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Neon Razor with the onyx with HAM ll's and faction ammo it does 162dps
amazingly, the same as the devoter with FMP and faction MF
that was with faction gamma does 176 with MF
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 13:46:00 -
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please boost Onyx it does less dmg with HAM's than a devoter does with its smallest guns devoter is overpowered and needs to be nerfed to bring it into line with the other HIC's
  
even though i hate using EFT to prove things i think i have proven that a devoter can have a cap stable setup that can tank all 4 titans and do good dps and even though some people will still try to say that onyx and broadsword are alot better then numbers do not lie. then again all this talk about being cap neutral is not worth the time spent writing about as you are going to get nossed.
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Originally by: Neon Razor please boost Onyx it does less dmg with HAM's than a devoter does with its smallest guns devoter is overpowered and needs to be nerfed to bring it into line with the other HIC's
  
even though i hate using EFT to prove things i think i have proven that a devoter can have a cap stable setup that can tank all 4 titans and do good dps and even though some people will still try to say that onyx and broadsword are alot better then numbers do not lie. then again all this talk about being cap neutral is not worth the time spent writing about as you are going to get nossed.
Except that the Devoter has almost 25% less effective hitpoints and has to shoot in smartbomb range. Thats 80% range reduction over the Oynx.
Thats the problem with you people trying to use EFT to prove things. I am stating real world facts and useing EFT to back it up. If so much as a small neut from a frig get placed on that devoter, or the devoter needs to cycle a mwd 5-10mins inst scrambling a titan - its cap collapses.
that was because i was using thermic dmg as that is the devoters lowest resist to test to see if it would tank a dd i could have posted the same pic but with exp dmage then then i could have said the onyx has 50% less HP if you put them both on uniform dmg then the effective hp's are: 93090 effictive hp for devoter 101549 effective hp for onyx
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |

Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2008.01.10 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Razor on 10/01/2008 14:11:08
Originally by: Jonny JoJo If so much as a small neut from a frig get placed on that devoter, or the devoter needs to cycle a mwd 5-10mins inst scrambling a titan - its cap collapses.
and what happens to the onyx if it does the same then it also caps out the onyx is less cap stable then the devoter build i stated
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |
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