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Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 25	Posted - 2011.12.06 01:02:00 - [61] - Quote Thx Drax that may explain some of the setups we couldn't figure out. I'll make sure to add the information for people who want to setup crons. In other news: mmmmm fuelblocks http://iceneko.com/eve/mmmfuelblocks.png ohh nom nom nom.
Gloria Lena Koraka State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.12.06 03:34:00 - [62] - Quote Hi, please include an option to calculate what is needed to build the required amount of fuel block at perfect or optimal ME. Thanks !
Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 25	Posted - 2011.12.06 04:49:00 - [63] - Quote Gloria Lena Koraka wrote: Hi, please include an option to calculate what is needed to build the required amount of fuel block at perfect or optimal ME. Thanks ! Yeah I had planned on something like that, at least if you had perfect ME. Not sure if I'll have enough time to do more than that at first like different ME levels or allow you to calculate on the fly. But I hear you can get perfect ME right now for the FB BPOs before its release so not sure if that many people would care anyway. Not even sure why CCP even thought making people doing ME research on the fuel blocks was needed. Just seems dumb and pointless imo.
Gloria Lena Koraka State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.12.06 15:32:00 - [64] - Quote Great, keep up the good job, as long as we have perfect ME we would be happy.
Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26	Posted - 2011.12.06 16:12:00 - [65] - Quote Gloria Lena Koraka wrote: Hi, please include an option to calculate what is needed to build the required amount of fuel block at perfect or optimal ME. Thanks ! These are well known numbers. For 5% waste products, you divide the max usage by 10.5. For 10% waste products, you go with a 5.5% number. Take the largest number in a fuel block, 420 isotopes, and do the math so 420/10.5 = 40. ME 40 is a perfect build. If you want to just save all oxygen, ME 2 is fine. If you want to save all HW and LO3, 158/10.5 = ME 15 (rounded, CCP adds .5 and then truncates). ME 15 is like a day and 4 hours. Also, Time Efficiency is totally worth it on these prints. With perfect skills and no build bonus, PL 0 is 4 minutes. With a good facility, at PL 3 you're looking at a build time of 2 minutes 6 seconds, PL 10 is 1:55, and PL 14 is 1:53. So I recommend you get at least a little Time Efficiency on there, another 6 hours maybe, and lots of empire slots. Finally, blocks are finally able to be put in towers, but the API will still not return blocks because the API team didn't get the memo. Hopefully CCP will resolve this soon.
Gloria Lena Koraka State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.12.06 17:11:00 - [66] - Quote Kismeteer wrote: snip ...lots of number... I'm not saying I don't know what these number are, I'm saying I want the tool to tell me I need x amount of minmatar block and y amount of amar block to fuel everything for the specified number of days which break down to Z number of material needed to build these rounded up block number so I don't have to do all the math myself of how much of each material I need to fuel all the tower, like the tool actually does it create you a shopping list (totals fuel for all tower). So the buyer goes and buy all that is required and bring it for the manufacturer who build the specified amount of block and the fuel technician moves these block into each tower. Easing the life of everyone.
Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26	Posted - 2011.12.06 17:24:00 - [67] - Quote Gloria Lena Koraka wrote: Kismeteer wrote: snip ...lots of number... I'm not saying I don't know what these number are, I'm saying I want the tool to tell me I need x amount of minmatar block and y amount of amar block to fuel everything for the specified number of days which break down to Z number of material needed to build these rounded up block number so I don't have to do all the math myself of how much of each material I need to fuel all the tower, like the tool actually does it create you a shopping list (totals fuel for all tower). So the buyer goes and buy all that is required and bring it for the manufacturer who build the specified amount of block and the fuel technician moves these block into each tower. Easing the life of everyone. Then it's pretty simple: research an ME 40 BPO and he's said he'll add a fuel total in there. Done. No loss at all, easy math for our pos app, everyone wins. Just my opinion, but this is a pos fueling app, not a production application, don't make it too complicated. If you want easy research, throw up a lab for a bit, or just research it in low sec as there are lots of open, very cheap slots.
Gloria Lena Koraka State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.12.06 20:15:00 - [68] - Quote /rant on Gloria Lena Koraka wrote: Great, keep up the good job, as long as we have perfect ME we would be happy. Maybe you should start reading what I wrote just before your first post... oh wait, sorry I forgot you are a member of goons and that's a prerequisite /rant off
Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26	Posted - 2011.12.07 19:09:00 - [69] - Quote Gloria Lena Koraka wrote: /rant on Maybe you should start reading what I wrote just before your first post... oh wait, sorry I forgot you are a member of goons and that's a prerequisite /rant off Yeah, that was pretty 'goon like', giving you perfect ME numbers because addition is hard.
Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 34	Posted - 2011.12.09 16:32:00 - [70] - Quote Good news, they announced the date on the energon cube cut over. Bad news, it's Jan 24th. So a month and a half. Here's hoping you are still procrastinating 4 days before original timeline. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=44269

Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 27	Posted - 2011.12.09 18:01:00 - [71] - Quote Kismeteer wrote: Good news, they announced the date on the energon cube cut over. Bad news, it's Jan 24th. So a month and a half. Here's hoping you are still procrastinating 4 days before original timeline. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=44269 Well okay then lol. Well this kinda sucks in a sense because some of the patch notes could come out earlier but not anymore since they are all attached to the fuel blocks patch. Would be too many changes to reverse. Ohh well, expect the fuel block patch probably the week/weekend before January 24th. Gives me more time though so I'll probably add in some additional fixes or updates too. This may turn out to be one hell of a patch. ...or I'll wait till the 23rd...before working on it some more. bwhahaah :P
Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 39	Posted - 2011.12.09 21:19:00 - [72] - Quote Frozen Guardian wrote: Ohh well, expect the fuel block patch probably the week/weekend before January 24th. Gives me more time though so I'll probably add in some additional fixes or updates too. This may turn out to be one hell of a patch. ...or I'll wait till the 23rd...before working on it some more. bwhahaah :P I'd recommend patching the fuel block detection code soon, as they might just double the size of pos's, and so the number of fuel blocks might get to be important. Make it an uncomplicated patch, I guess. Then when it starts burning cubes, that's an entirely different ball of wax. `8r/ Good luck man. The API is a pain in the ass.
Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 27	Posted - 2011.12.10 02:10:00 - [73] - Quote Kismeteer wrote: Frozen Guardian wrote: Ohh well, expect the fuel block patch probably the week/weekend before January 24th. Gives me more time though so I'll probably add in some additional fixes or updates too. This may turn out to be one hell of a patch. ...or I'll wait till the 23rd...before working on it some more. bwhahaah :P I'd recommend patching the fuel block detection code soon, as they might just double the size of pos's, and so the number of fuel blocks might get to be important. Make it an uncomplicated patch, I guess. Then when it starts burning cubes, that's an entirely different ball of wax. `8r/ Good luck man. The API is a pain in the ass. Well I had a reply and then the forums didn't actually post it so...yeah now I hate these new forums again.
Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 45	Posted - 2011.12.13 15:41:00 - [74] - Quote Just a heads up, there was a suggestion that they double the fuel bay temporarily, and it was implemented. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=494033#post494033 BTW, that guy is a goon as well, it's his market alt.
Solo Drakban GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 799	Posted - 2011.12.16 15:40:00 - [75] - Quote Let's see if the forums eat this post.. (Seriously CCP, these are forums. There are hundreds of well written forums out there, how can you manage to have such horrible forums that previewing a post manages to destroy the post. Also, no [pre] or [code] tags? Seriously? :argh:) I've been looking at optimizations for this app after I noticed that the track.php was taking a long time to load and that my database was screaming when it was loading. Poking into the query logs I found this query which seems to be called 2-3 times per tower: SELECT * FROM update_log WHERE type_id = '52' AND type = '1' ORDER BY id DESC; Ignoring the SELECT , I ran an explain on this and noticed that there were no indexes (update_log_backup is just a duplicate of our update_log, I created it so I could play without killing existing data): mysql> explain SELECT FROM update_log_backup WHERE type_id = '52' AND type = '1' ORDER BY id DESC; +----+-------------+-------------------+------+---------------+------+---------+------+--------+-----------------------------+ \| id \| select_type \| table \| type \| possible_keys \| key \| key_len \| ref \| rows \| Extra \| +----+-------------+-------------------+------+---------------+------+---------+------+--------+-----------------------------+ \| 1 \| SIMPLE \| update_log_backup \| ALL \| NULL \| NULL \| NULL \| NULL \| 454823 \| Using where; Using filesort \| +----+-------------+-------------------+------+---------------+------+---------+------+--------+-----------------------------+ The query itself generates 2,799 rows and takes 0.23 and does so by doing a full table scan of almost 500k rows. Time for indexes! mysql> create index ULstuff on update_log_backup ( type, type_id ); Query OK, 0 rows affected (4.62 sec) Records: 0 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0 mysql> explain SELECT * FROM update_log_backup WHERE type_id = '52' AND type = '1' ORDER BY id DESC; +----+-------------+-------------------+------+---------------+---------+---------+-------------+------+-----------------------------+ \| id \| select_type \| table \| type \| possible_keys \| key \| key_len \| ref \| rows \| Extra \| +----+-------------+-------------------+------+---------------+---------+---------+-------------+------+-----------------------------+ \| 1 \| SIMPLE \| update_log_backup \| ref \| ULstuff \| ULstuff \| 12 \| const,const \| 2798 \| Using where; Using filesort \| +----+-------------+-------------------+------+---------------+---------+---------+-------------+------+-----------------------------+ Hey, an index to read from, no more table scans! This reduced the query from 0.23 seconds to 0.01 seconds and returns the same number of rows. This took the load time of track.php from ~50 seconds to ~4 seconds. It also looks like the function doing this query is only using the first row to determine the last update for a POS... If this is correct you may want to consider using a limit in there and only returning a single row instead of all of them.. Your query: mysql> SELECT * FROM update_log_backup WHERE type_id = '52' AND type = '1' ORDER BY id DESC; +--------+--------+---------+------+--------------------------------+------------+ \| id \| eve_id \| type_id \| type \| action \| datetime \| +--------+--------+---------+------+--------------------------------+------------+ \| 454189 \| 0 \| 52 \| 1 \| EVEAPI XML STARBASE API UPDATE \| 1323824523 \| With a limit: mysql> SELECT * FROM update_log_backup WHERE type_id = '52' AND type = '1' ORDER BY id DESC limit 1; +--------+--------+---------+------+--------------------------------+------------+ \| id \| eve_id \| type_id \| type \| action \| datetime \| +--------+--------+---------+------+--------------------------------+------------+ \| 454189 \| 0 \| 52 \| 1 \| EVEAPI XML STARBASE API UPDATE \| 1323824523 \| +--------+--------+---------+------+--------------------------------+------------+ Same data, 2,798 less rows. You could also get the same result without looping over the list of POSes by doing a correlated sub-query or a self-join. In fact it should be possible to generate the entire from page from a single, wel optimized query (excluding pagination and other misc queries, I'm talking about just the table) with a few joins and possibly sub-selects. I have other suggestions for optimizations after going through the code and the DB structure, but I'll hold off until I know if they'll be useful or not.. :)
Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 27	Posted - 2011.12.18 03:34:00 - [76] - Quote When I notice things like this I just shake my head. I found several things that could been easily fixed or wrote differently since the start of the tracker and just noticed them now during the re-write for Fuel Blocks. Though I'm not an expert by any means, I've just seen some "interesting" ways about doing some DB functions and the related. Probably wrote some myself just to get stuff to work asap though I try to avoid it the best I can and I usually test a lot to make sure the function works how I want it. So I absolutely love it that you noticed this as I've gone past this function several times and never noticed it. I had no need to look at it directly and never even knew it was pulling in all rows. Just dang son, dang. I don't have a huge tower list that gets used like crazy to work from so it's much harder for me to notice these things. Especially since my queries complete in 0.0001. The end result though is that the hoursago function has been updated with a limiter and index since that's easy to do and tested and works wonderfully. This should also speed up various other functions that use hoursago even just a little bit. The update log itself needs some work in terms of how its updated, what data gets put into it, and what isn't being put into it that should be. Especially since I want a nice viewer for admin accounts to at least be able to see certain things. That's for later though :) But if you have any further optimizations or notice anything that you think should be handled differently please let me know in any way shape or form you want. EVEMail, Forums, Google Project, or Email. Yes I find these useful. I'm open for ideas especially when people put the solutions and reasons in front of me. Thanks Solo Drakban! <3 P.S. I like Kismeteer more though due to her avatar. :P
Solo Drakban GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 802	Posted - 2011.12.19 15:22:00 - [77] - Quote Another quick thing: In track.php at line 104 there is: $row2 = $posmgmt->GetLastPosUpdate($row['pos_id']); $row2 never seems to get called before the end of the function nor in the template. I commented this out and nothing seems to have broken and there is no reduced information on the tracking page as far as I can tell, but it is saving on some extra queries to the update_log table. :)
Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 27	Posted - 2011.12.19 22:23:00 - [78] - Quote Solo Drakban wrote: Another quick thing: In track.php at line 104 there is: $row2 = $posmgmt->GetLastPosUpdate($row['pos_id']); $row2 never seems to get called before the end of the function nor in the template. I commented this out and nothing seems to have broken and there is no reduced information on the tracking page as far as I can tell, but it is saving on some extra queries to the update_log table. :) Thanks! Yes I see no use for it either and can't seem to find reason why it existed other than it probably was copy and pasted by someone from view/editpos. In other news, another forum reply gone due to "sorry we've been ganked." I got to remember to write out my replies elsewhere first and paste them into here.
Johnathan Roark The Graduates RAZOR Alliance 5	Posted - 2012.01.02 07:20:00 - [79] - Quote Frozen Guardian wrote: Solo Drakban wrote: Another quick thing: In track.php at line 104 there is: $row2 = $posmgmt->GetLastPosUpdate($row['pos_id']); $row2 never seems to get called before the end of the function nor in the template. I commented this out and nothing seems to have broken and there is no reduced information on the tracking page as far as I can tell, but it is saving on some extra queries to the update_log table. :) Thanks! Yes I see no use for it either and can't seem to find reason why it existed other than it probably was copy and pasted by someone from view/editpos. In other news, another forum reply gone due to "sorry we've been ganked." I got to remember to write out my replies elsewhere first and paste them into here. Or it was needed at one point, but something else changed, and never got removed. I'm guessing you can't find anyone that could explain 100% why every line was put in. Its been worked on by so many people now and changed with pos updates. If anyone wonders why I stopped working on it, it needs to be rewritten from scratch, but I didn't have the time. Fixing bugs became such a pain due to how complex it had gotten. Frozen is doing and excellent job at it though. EVEVERIFY - A recruiting API Verification and Audit Tool Also try out Yapeal for your php api needs
Gloria Lena Koraka State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.01.09 17:35:00 - [80] - Quote Frozen Guardian, do you plan to release an update for the fuel block a bit in advance so that we can update our pos tracker installation before the switchover so that we have time to plan with the new fuel block requirement in advance. Thanks !

Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 28	Posted - 2012.01.09 18:15:00 - [81] - Quote Gloria Lena Koraka wrote: Frozen Guardian, do you plan to release an update for the fuel block a bit in advance so that we can update our pos tracker installation before the switchover so that we have time to plan with the new fuel block requirement in advance. Thanks ! Sir yes sir. I be thinking hopefully sometime this week with a for sure of early next week. As I said on Google Project: the majority of it is pretty much functional though but there are still a few random ends that need to be updated. If it were to be released today it would be technically usable.
Gloria Lena Koraka State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.01.10 21:14:00 - [82] - Quote Thanks !
Militaer Biber 0	Posted - 2012.01.14 23:49:00 - [83] - Quote Hello i try the version 5.1.7 :) When i try my API Code ... Error Code: 203::Authentication failure. :( i try IGB and Normal PC Browser Greetings Biber
Johnathan Roark The Graduates RAZOR Alliance 5	Posted - 2012.01.15 04:18:00 - [84] - Quote Militaer Biber wrote: Hello i try the version 5.1.7 :) When i try my API Code ... Error Code: 203::Authentication failure. :( i try IGB and Normal PC Browser Greetings Biber It means your api key is wrong, make sure you have it entered in correctly. Another thing that can cause this is an incorrectly configured php, check your php.ini for input and output paramater. EVEVERIFY - A recruiting API Verification and Audit Tool Also try out Yapeal for your php api needs
Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 28	Posted - 2012.01.16 06:23:00 - [85] - Quote After some testing the tracker code looks pretty good to go. So here are the patch notes in advance, patch/full installer should be out tomorrow along with more details after one final test that deals with the actual full installer/patch happens. Version 5.1.7 to 5.2.0 Changes: Support for Fuel Blocks added. Manufacturing fuel blocks is now listed on the Fuel Bill page at the bottom. The blueprint it uses to calculate has "perfect" ME 40. The manufacturing time is set at 4 minutes per run to help gauge how much time it will take. Removed some minor CSS errors. View/Edit POS now states Empty/Full instead of 0 under Online for silos. Production page updated so the entire line for the silo is turned a color when Empty/Full. Will also change to a warning color once it passes under 24 hours till Empty/Full. Colors can be changed in the theme.css files. Added support for API Proxies. POS Tower Sov Status now updates alliance info via API key. Fixed optimal to make sure to include charters if charters are being used. Fixed View/Edit POS to display the correct m3 for charters. POS Tower renders updated to the new non-crooked better looking versions. POS Track now loads faster - Thanks Solo Drakban! Refuel button added to ViewPOS for immediate optimal fillup. Buttons! Fuel Bill page sovereignty now only shows if the tower is in sovereignty friendly territory. Various pointless calls to the DB and redundant code removed, speeding up various pages in the tracker. Add a New Tower can now specify charters. Mailer will now display charters if needed. -FG
Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 28	Posted - 2012.01.16 23:41:00 - [86] - Quote First the links but make sure to read the additional information below!!!: http://iceneko.com/eve/downloads/test/FGVFull_5_2_0_Test.zip and http://iceneko.com/eve/downloads/test/FGVUpgrade_5_2_0_Test.zip - DB Upgrade Required As you can see these are tests but will most likely be the final/official release files unless someone notices an issue I need to correct. Hangars - Have been left alone besides removing the "required" column. Trying to decide what to do with these as from what I understand not many people use them anyhow. Outposts - Have been left alone also. Most likely going to add in manufacturing fuel blocks and some other features when actually getting to this. However you'll still be able to store information on your POS Fuel Block materials. EVE-Marketdata pull for Gallente Fuel Block - The site is sending back 0.00isk for them so if you use the pull you'll still need to find out a price for these Fuel Blocks until EVE-Marketdata fixes their site. The config.php file(does not contain your DB information) - This file has been updated to support API proxies so if you have any customization within this file currently you may just wish to copy over the lines of code that have changed instead of replacing your current config file. IMPORTANT NOTE: If you upgrade your tracker to 5.2.0 you will no longer be able to see the old POS fuels for actual fueling. 5.2.0 only runs on Fuel Blocks. Let me know also if there are any changes you like, hate, love, want changed asap, etc by either here, EVEMail, or Google Code. I'll be checking constantly until a few days after the 24th as I want to make sure this release goes smoothly as possible for all of you. If everything does goes smoothly with no glaring issues I'll put the "official" release of 5.2.0 out on Friday/Saturday of this week. Lastly, if you approves of my hard work and love the POS Tracker please consider sending me some isk(or Plex) even if a little bit. :)
snipereagle1 White Star Line 2010 GIANTSBANE. 1	Posted - 2012.01.18 08:30:00 - [87] - Quote So..... no matter what I do I can't get the moon mining tracking to work. Please help!
Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 28	Posted - 2012.01.18 16:37:00 - [88] - Quote snipereagle1 wrote: So..... no matter what I do I can't get the moon mining tracking to work. Please help! Uhh what version, did it work in previous versions, what exactly are you talking about? What page are you on?
Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 82	Posted - 2012.01.18 20:50:00 - [89] - Quote Keep up the great work, FG. BTW, the time out is the major problem our dudes have with the application these days. Just because it takes like an hour to fuel some of our pos's, and it times out in like 10-20 minutes. I'd like to extend that time, but I have not gone through that process yet.
Frozen Guardian Registered Amateur Mathematicians 28	Posted - 2012.01.18 21:11:00 - [90] - Quote Kismeteer wrote: Keep up the great work, FG. BTW, the time out is the major problem our dudes have with the application these days. Just because it takes like an hour to fuel some of our pos's, and it times out in like 10-20 minutes. I'd like to extend that time, but I have not gone through that process yet. Your welcomes! The timeout should be based on your host as there is no actual limit set within the program. If I remember correctly session.gc_maxlifetime you can set on your php.ini for the moment past something over 1440 seconds = 24 minutes. That should work out for you until I dive into cookies. Which I got some free times right now so I just may do that :)



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