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Zev'Nar
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:52:00 -
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I was traveling between systems in 0.6-0.7 space and I saw this red or flashing red shuttle. I pulled up the player info. 2 year old account -6.9 security status no bounty in 0.7 space. He and I jumped a few gates around the same time. Isn't he supposed to be shot on sight or something by Concord?
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari
Under Heavy Fire
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:57:00 -
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Concord will only intervene when someone does something illegal. Low security status is not enough to aggro Concord. However, the local faction police WILL pursue, but they are pansies compared to Concord.
 Originally by: GM Tacgnol
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Trof
Gallente
Griffin Inc.
Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.11 14:59:00 -
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You would think so. At least the way I understand the standing rules.
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Durzel
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Durzel on 11/01/2008 16:00:13
Wouldn't faction police make short work of a shuttle or do they suffer the same locking delays etc as the rest of us when locking small ships?
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Easy Target
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ancy Denaries
Concord will only intervene when someone does something illegal. Low security status is not enough to aggro Concord. However, the local faction police WILL pursue, but they are pansies compared to Concord.
Nope, concord will attack you
as the standing is with concord.
In answer to the question, it takes them a few seconds to "wake up" and put the donut down, so in a fast warping ship you can navigate through high security as long as you are on the ball.
Not sure how you would go on with docking, as the delay could be enough for them to get you.
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Shanur
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.01.11 16:23:00 -
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Faction police functions more like nullsec rats if i am not mistaken. They lack many of the overpowered features that CONCORD has in order to assure destruction of the ship (because you are supposed to be able to escape the faction police if your do it well). Of course being an outlaw means that any suicide gate camping party or bully corp camping a gate they pass by will see a tasty flashy red that they can gank for free. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.11 21:17:00 -
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yup yup he was getting away.
by as he wasn't attacking anyone getting away is ok.
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xOm3gAx
Caldari
Stain of Mind
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Posted - 2008.01.11 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Easy Target
Originally by: Ancy Denaries
Concord will only intervene when someone does something illegal. Low security status is not enough to aggro Concord. However, the local faction police WILL pursue, but they are pansies compared to Concord.
Nope, concord will attack you
as the standing is with concord.
In answer to the question, it takes them a few seconds to "wake up" and put the donut down, so in a fast warping ship you can navigate through high security as long as you are on the ball.
Not sure how you would go on with docking, as the delay could be enough for them to get you.
While it is true that the standing is with concord and concord will attack you if they happen to already be spawned they will not and do not spawn unless an agressive act has been taken. As thus it is possible to run around -10 through high sec and only worry about the local navies which are a joke =P
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Asestorian
Domination.
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Posted - 2008.01.12 00:55:00 -
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As long as he doesn't try to gank anyone in high sec there's nothing wrong with this. The faction police drones, and possibly CONCORD if they're there, will attempt to attack him, but as he is in a fast warping ship like a shuttle, and using the warp to 0 command, they won't actually be able to get him unless something else happens, such as lag or a disconnect, forcing him to be unable to issue commands to his ship and therefore just kind of sit there waiting to die.
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Leora Nomen
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.12 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Leora Nomen on 12/01/2008 01:16:34
I have a character that is a pirate with negative security status. When he flies around in a shuttle using warp to 0m option the faction police doesn't have enough time to respond because a shuttle aligns and warps so fast. Once I traveled on autopilot and the faction police destroyed my shuttle en route so when i came back i was traveling in a pod.
It takes faction police a few seconds to respond and attack, even so their attack can be tanked in a heavy tank ship like a battlecruiser or a battleship for some time. So even if you fly into high sec accidentally in a bigger ship sometimes you can tank them long enough to fly back to the gate and get out. They will web you but logging in and out will give you some time to make a stride for the gate on afterburner or mwd before they lock you and web you again.
Concord responds only if you have been criminally flagged.
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Cikulisuy
Amarr
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:43:00 -
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Cikulisuy! CRIMINALS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN HIGH SECURITY SPACE! LEAVE NOW OR BE DESTROYED! (unlesss you are fast enough, in which case we wont be able to catch you because we are complete ********s!)
is how it should read anyway
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cikulisuy
LEAVE NOW OR BE DESTROYED!
Well, you left ASAP, didn't you ? 
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Durzel
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:23:00 -
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Am I right in thinking that anyone can attack you if you're -5 and in high-sec space? If so surely faction police would be the least of your worries if you were travelling anywhere busy (which presumably would be why you were in high-sec in the first place).
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 24/01/2008 11:29:05
correct. Thing is ofcourse that players need time to react, even more since they don't expect any targets in high sec and they want to make SURE they target the right ship as not to get CONCORD all happy. So their reaction time will suck a bit.
Players aren't really much of a worry.
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Zev'Nar
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:21:00 -
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It was funny, over the weekend I saw a battleship? with -2.9? security level get webbed by the local NPC cops in a 0.9 or 1.0 system. Must have been auto piloting and not thinking. He was looking for someone to bump him? He lost the ship, he said he was out 130 million. I didn't feel too bad because he must have done something to get that -2.9. I did get some good salvage off the wreck though.
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Tchell Dahhn
Amarr
The Space BorderLine
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:38:00 -
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Ok, I'm confused. When asked if you can attack the red, blinking target in Empire, I read this:
Originally by: Easy Target
Nope, concord will attack you
as the standing is with concord.
So, this tells me that, when I have my Overview configured properly, and see someone blinking red (in their pod, or in a shuttle or other ship) I cannot attack them.
Then, I read this:
Originally by: Durzel
Am I right in thinking that anyone can attack you if you're -5 and in high-sec space?
...and then, this response:
Originally by: Tzar'rim
Correct. Thing is ofcourse that players need time to react, even more since they don't expect any targets in high sec and they want to make SURE they target the right ship as not to get CONCORD all happy.
So, this seems to contradict the above statement. In speaking with a friend who's played for years, he mentioned that if they're blinking red, they are fair game, regardless of territory.
So, which is it? (...and another question - if they are blinking red because of a huge negative, and have a bounty, can you pod them in Empire space to collect?)
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:47:00 -
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What Easytarget was talking about is that Concord will attack the one that entered high sec while his sec. status being to low.
That's something different from agressing someone who is blinking red.
Different situation.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:55:00 -
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The "blinky red" thing doesn't always work properly, you might see a blinking red pilot that's actually a +sec pilot with no bounty, stole nothing recently, fought nobody recently, etc.
Yeah, it's a rare occurence, but it sometimes just happens.
What's 100% safe however, is opening fire on somebody with sec status below -5.00
Nobody cares if you shoot them (well, they do, his friends do, but CONCORD sure doesn't).
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Tchell Dahhn
Amarr
The Space BorderLine
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Posted - 2008.01.25 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
What's 100% safe however, is opening fire on somebody with sec status below -5.00. Nobody cares if you shoot them (well, they do, his friends do, but CONCORD sure doesn't).
That sounds good. Now, can you pod them for the bounty while in Empire space? Or, by doing so, do you incur the wrath of Concord? (Also - let's say you do get Concorded while podding them for the bounty. If you successfully pop their pod, do you immediately receive the ransom amount in wallet prior - or during - the Concording?)
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.01.25 19:13:00 -
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I'll never forget the time that guy with like -4 standing or something jumped into 0.8 space with his Ishtar. I had fun stealing from that wreck
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