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Fairin	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:23:00 - [1] Odd that a game that is so open and 'free' in the sense that you can do whatever you like including defrauding other players would have forums that are one of the stronger bastions of fascism as forums go. Makes me wonder if Iceland is a fascist country in general, I mean it is pretty cold there from what I understand. Generally I would conclude that harsh environments require stronger communities, and subsequently the need to give up certain personal liberties for the greater good. Yet I understand that they are a long standing democracy with strong ideas about freedom of speech and personal freedom. As I said very odd. Anyway just something I was thinking about while trapped at work.
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence The Reckoning.	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:24:00 - [2] wth? Game != RL -- Banned since 2005, back by popular demand! They said it wouldn't happen!!
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:26:00 - [3] Think less. Work more. - DesuSigs
Riho Northen Breeze	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Fairin Odd that a game that is so open and 'free' in the sense that you can do whatever you like including defrauding other players would have forums that are one of the stronger bastions of fascism as forums go. Makes me wonder if Iceland is a fascist country in general, I mean it is pretty cold there from what I understand. Generally I would conclude that harsh environments require stronger communities, and subsequently the need to give up certain personal liberties for the greater good. Yet I understand that they are a long standing democracy with strong ideas about freedom of speech and personal freedom. As I said very odd. Anyway just something I was thinking about while trapped at work. GAME does not represent Real Life.... thats the ******* point of the damn game :P ---------------------------------- Seems that there's a new game that seems to be very popular whit whiners these days. Its called EFT Online. dont listen those people.. as they dont have a clue
Fairin	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Shinnen wth? Game != RL Perhaps, but I would argue that these forums, and subsequently their rules, are a means of communication for the player base of Eve and therefor very much related to the game. Honestly, players and the interaction between them is what MMOs are all about.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:29:00 - [6] Originally by: Fairin Originally by: Shinnen wth? Game != RL Perhaps, but I would argue that these forums, and subsequently their rules, are a means of communication for the player base of Eve and therefor very much related to the game. Honestly, players and the interaction between them is what MMOs are all about. Yes, the forums are related to the game. No, the game is not related to real life. - DesuSigs
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:29:00 - [7] Fascism requires a military. Iceland has no standing army. ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Fairin	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:29:00 - [8] Originally by: Crumplecorn Think less. Work more. Yes, I believe they have posters like that... in sweat shops.
Fairin	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:34:00 - [9] Game = community = player communication = rules pertaining to communication of players = people who make the rules
ApaKaka Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:35:00 - [10] Originally by: Fairin Makes me wonder if Iceland is a fascist country in general, I mean it is pretty cold there from what I understand. Generally I would conclude that harsh environments require stronger communities, and subsequently the need to give up certain personal liberties for the greater good. Yet I understand that they are a long standing democracy with strong ideas about freedom of speech and personal freedom. As I said very odd. Well, disregarding that this post is a complete WTF?? you are completely wrong in your assumptions. It is a fact backed by a lot of research done that the "colder countries" (scandinavia, canada etc) are the ones that also are most democratic and strong believers in the freedom of speech. A notable exception in my mind would be Russia, but they have a complete history of their own why that is the case. It might rather be that because people live in cold, deserted countries, they are more prone toward intellectual thinking instead of frolicking around on beaches and being generally sweaty faced and angry.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.01.11 17:16:00 - [11] I once took a boat from Iceland to England, and as soon as I cast off from the docks 15 boats appeared out of nowhere and shot at me! _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Ursula LeGuinn Versus Gloria Omnis	Posted - 2008.01.11 17:21:00 - [12] Axe to grind, do you need it? OIC, you already have one. Look, man, this isn't a public area. The forum belongs to CCP; it's their house. Even in very free countries, a man can order you to leave his house if you're saying things he doesn't allow / agree with / approve of, and he doesn't have to let you put banners up on his walls, either. He can remove them. In a private club (which almost all Internet forums are), they don't have to let you speak or even allow you entry. You must be new to the Intartubes.
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.01.11 17:25:00 - [13] Originally by: Pwett I once took a boat from Iceland to England, and as soon as I cast off from the docks 15 boats appeared out of nowhere and shot at me! Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Oddball Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.11 17:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Fairin Game = community = player communication = rules pertaining to communication of players = people who make the rules No.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.01.11 17:28:00 - [15] As an aside, what notation uses =/ to mean not equal? I've seen !=, ~=. <> and probably others but never =/ ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Ursula LeGuinn Versus Gloria Omnis	Posted - 2008.01.11 17:34:00 - [16] Originally by: Adonis 4174 As an aside, what notation uses =/ to mean not equal? I've seen !=, ~=. <> and probably others but never =/ Cool kids like me use this: ≠
Arcticblue2 Gallente Nordic Freelancers inc	Posted - 2008.01.11 17:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Fascism requires a military. Iceland has no standing army. Yeah .. god help Iceland ... now it is a norwegian task to enforce or patrol their airspace with norwegian planes . In reality .. we only want their women .... and maybe beer. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.01.11 17:57:00 - [18] Originally by: Arcticblue2 Originally by: Adonis 4174 Fascism requires a military. Iceland has no standing army. Yeah .. god help Iceland ... now it is a norwegian task to enforce or patrol their airspace with norwegian planes . Consider it revenge for A-ha? ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.01.11 18:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Fairin Makes me wonder if Iceland is a fascist country in general, I mean it is pretty cold there from what I understand. Generally I would conclude that harsh environments require stronger communities, and subsequently the need to give up certain personal liberties for the greater good. Er, could you provide an example of this harsh environment = government removing civil liberties? ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Orgos Khenn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.11 18:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Fairin fascism/quote] Close enough. Godwin's law. GTFO.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.01.11 18:06:00 - [21] Originally by: Tarminic Er, could you provide an example of this harsh environment = government removing civil liberties? Mooninites and the Morlocks _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.11 18:21:00 - [22] And you are thinking about it because the total subscriber number is actually comparable to the population of Iceland? --- This is a war declaration, issued from your alt corp. It is used to gank people in high sec.
Arcticblue2 Gallente Nordic Freelancers inc	Posted - 2008.01.12 00:09:00 - [23] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Arcticblue2 Originally by: Adonis 4174 Fascism requires a military. Iceland has no standing army. Yeah .. god help Iceland ... now it is a norwegian task to enforce or patrol their airspace with norwegian planes . Consider it revenge for A-ha? yeah .. suppose it is Carma... we really must have done something bad to the world ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor.
Shadow Joy	Posted - 2008.01.12 01:14:00 - [24] I think CCPs general approach to things is more readily explained by an abundance of alcohol than fascism.
Jonny JoJo Amarr The Imperial Guards Darkness Rising Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.12 01:19:00 - [25] Damm right they are Fascists. They nerfed out belovolent slave hording, blood drinking, rival murdering Amarr Emporor. And thats how the Amarr nerf beguan folks. Refresh to see next Real Life CCP sig(21 total)
omiNATION Gallente TBC VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.12 01:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Fairin Makes me wonder if Iceland is a fascist country in general, I mean it is pretty cold there from what I understand. Generally I would conclude that harsh environments require stronger communities, and subsequently the need to give up certain personal liberties for the greater good. Er, could you provide an example of this harsh environment = government removing civil liberties? Russia? [sig] EVE, basically an MMORPG with prison rules. [/sig]
omiNATION Gallente TBC VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.12 01:21:00 - [27] Originally by: Jonny JoJo Damm right they are Fascists. They nerfed out belovolent slave hording, blood drinking, rival murdering Amarr Emporor. And thats how the Amarr nerf beguan folks. Okay are you serious? Or are you one of those trolling experiments... like the guy who posts on threads with the name 'richardnixon' and acts like richard nixon? because seriously, if not, get a life. [sig] EVE, basically an MMORPG with prison rules. [/sig]
Ryuu Katsu YTiRi Directorate	Posted - 2008.01.12 03:07:00 - [28] Edited by: Ryuu Katsu on 12/01/2008 03:09:04 Edited by: Ryuu Katsu on 12/01/2008 03:08:02 Iceland is far from being fascist and funnily enough the UN just vote Iceland as the best country in the world to live in aka.: UN Names Icelans as best country to live for 2007. ps. And for interests sake USA came in at number 12 dropping from 8th place from last year and Africa came out at the bottom. edit: A couple of mistypes due to late night posting..zzZZzzz. ======================== Real men structure tank.
Zinras Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.12 03:54:00 - [29] Is OP ******** or something? Judging an entire country fascist because a few forum mods lock some topics and you can kill people in a fictional universe made by an Icelandic company is simply foolish beyond belief. I am Danish. I have killed people in EVE and I have locked/deleted topics in the forum I moderate. Therefore, I, as well as my entire country, must be fascist and enforce the harsh, harsh laws of my country with an ironfist where you die if you jaywalk and speak louder than 5 dB. Also, because I have randomly killed people in EVE and other games, it must be commonplace that murders occur randomly on the streets of Denmark. Dear OP, do you not see where your logic fails?
Jonny JoJo Amarr The Imperial Guards Darkness Rising Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.12 03:59:00 - [30] Originally by: Zinras Is OP ******** or something? Judging an entire country fascist because a few forum mods lock some topics and you can kill people in a fictional universe made by an Icelandic company is simply foolish beyond belief. I am Danish. I have killed people in EVE and I have locked/deleted topics in the forum I moderate. Therefore, I, as well as my entire country, must be fascist and enforce the harsh, harsh laws of my country with an ironfist where you die if you jaywalk and speak louder than 5 dB. Also, because I have randomly killed people in EVE and other games, it must be commonplace that murders occur randomly on the streets of Denmark. Dear OP, do you not see where your logic fails? But you never nerfed Amarr - so I dont consider you a faciast. The OP might though! Refresh to see next Real Life CCP sig(21 total)

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