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Posted - 2008.01.21 01:48:00 -
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Sol Flare
Caldari
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.21 05:33:00 -
[32]
So I just want to clarify a few things...
You want a notification for something you can't break? Why don't you assume as you engage you are either aways scrammed or never scrammed...
Situation:
You are in a belt... few guys warp in... good chance you are scrammed.. but you get a cool CCP graphic that says you are screwed HA HA... (What did that notification do for you? Nothing)
You are in a fleet... You engage a similar sized gang... you start fighting... You get CCP's cool graphic again that you are screwed... (What did that notification do for you? Nothing again)
---o
I just don't see the point of having some notification that you are scrammed when there is no benefit to knowing you are. If it was grouped with a name... maybe beneficial to an ECM group but no one else. No FC is going to call a primary because you are tackled unless you are in a far superior ship or the tackler is worth dropping.
CCP... Don't waste your time with this programming.. work on something worth while imho.
Sorry guys.. just don't see why we need it
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Cap0
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Posted - 2008.01.21 06:20:00 -
[33]
If your only experience with pvp in eve is fleet battles and getting jumped by people in belts then you really missing out on the good stuff. 
Quite often even in small scale engagements its really hard to tell when someone has a point on you, especially in fast moving inty battles.
Currently the only sure way to warp out at just the right second without any Scrambling Warning Notification is to be mashing the warp button like a mad man..
I would rather be spending that short time before a possible escape shooting back =)
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Mr TriX
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.21 10:37:00 -
[34]
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Miss KillSome
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.01.21 10:59:00 -
[35]
./signed
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LordInvisible
Gallente
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.21 10:59:00 -
[36]
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Abbassidian
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Posted - 2008.01.21 17:30:00 -
[37]
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Zakon
Minmatar
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.01.21 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Zakon on 21/01/2008 20:53:20
 Originally by: Sol Flare
So I just want to clarify a few things...
You want a notification for something you can't break? Why don't you assume as you engage you are either aways scrammed or never scrammed...
Situation:
You are in a belt... few guys warp in... good chance you are scrammed.. but you get a cool CCP graphic that says you are screwed HA HA... (What did that notification do for you? Nothing)
You are in a fleet... You engage a similar sized gang... you start fighting... You get CCP's cool graphic again that you are screwed... (What did that notification do for you? Nothing again)
---o
I just don't see the point of having some notification that you are scrammed when there is no benefit to knowing you are. If it was grouped with a name... maybe beneficial to an ECM group but no one else. No FC is going to call a primary because you are tackled unless you are in a far superior ship or the tackler is worth dropping.
CCP... Don't waste your time with this programming.. work on something worth while imho.
Sorry guys.. just don't see why we need it
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Heh, first i though it was some kind off sarcastic joke erm. NOT.
Only thing u clarifyed here is that u need a clue.
no offence 
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Zeveron
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:12:00 -
[39]
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Elison Muerte
Caldari
The Halibuts
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:29:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Elison Muerte on 22/01/2008 11:30:42
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i'd like to know who is scrambling/webbing me and to what extent
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Zenara Merric
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Posted - 2008.01.23 07:45:00 -
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CCP Tuxford
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:01:00 -
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Actually I've known guys that have died because they assumed they were warp scrambled but weren't.
Knowing whether you can warp or not is probably the most vital information you can have. Of course your brain can only handle so much information and we have to be careful about which way we display them because to shouty kind of notification can overshadow other notifications which may be just as vital.
UI is also something that everyone has strong opinion about which is not surprising since its our most visible part of EVE so any way we choose to go a good portion of you guys will hate it 
One thing we can all agree on though and that is we need a better notification of who is doing what to us. I hope you view our upcoming changes to the overview as a step into the right direction.
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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford
Actually I've known guys that have died because they assumed they were warp scrambled but weren't.
Knowing whether you can warp or not is probably the most vital information you can have. Of course your brain can only handle so much information and we have to be careful about which way we display them because to shouty kind of notification can overshadow other notifications which may be just as vital.
UI is also something that everyone has strong opinion about which is not surprising since its our most visible part of EVE so any way we choose to go a good portion of you guys will hate it
One thing we can all agree on though and that is we need a better notification of who is doing what to us. I hope you view our upcoming changes to the overview as a step into the right direction.
is it going to be more or less clutter?
Also can you please not make the need armor/shield/other broadcast buttons so small or changeable these are imporant.
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RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:20:00 -
[44]
Just slap it on there, we're eve players, our brains can handle the information
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Internet Knight
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Posted - 2008.01.23 16:05:00 -
[45]
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
I hope you view our upcoming changes to the overview as a step into the right direction.
Link, so we can review?
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Castelo Branco
Caldari
The Undertakers
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.23 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford
UI is also something that everyone has strong opinion about which is not surprising since its our most visible part of EVE so any way we choose to go a good portion of you guys will hate it
OK, I agree that will be many people complain about the new "warp scramble UI display", but i truly think nobody will complain that this new feature "sucks" or should not be implemented.
We really need a CLEAR display about who are scrambling you, not mater how ugly will be..
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.23 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 23/01/2008 19:11:06
Originally by: Castelo Branco
We really need a CLEAR display about who are scrambling you, not mater how ugly will be..
Yep - Why not just blue or green Nos effects, or the mining laser, tractor beam effect, those are very visible. The current graphic just gets lost. The webbing is easy to see, but who's doing it, I'd like to know so they can be introduced to my drones.
The Real Space Initiative - V5 (Forum Link)
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Kylegar
Caldari
Shadow Of The Light
Scorched Earth Directive
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Posted - 2008.01.23 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford
Actually I've known guys that have died because they assumed they were warp scrambled but weren't.
Knowing whether you can warp or not is probably the most vital information you can have. Of course your brain can only handle so much information and we have to be careful about which way we display them because to shouty kind of notification can overshadow other notifications which may be just as vital.
UI is also something that everyone has strong opinion about which is not surprising since its our most visible part of EVE so any way we choose to go a good portion of you guys will hate it
One thing we can all agree on though and that is we need a better notification of who is doing what to us. I hope you view our upcoming changes to the overview as a step into the right direction.
If you turn the velocity bar(where it shows your speed) red, that would do nicely. Its unobtrusive, and really obvious that you are, infact, warpscrambled
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Decairn
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kylegar
If you turn the velocity bar(where it shows your speed) red, that would do nicely. Its unobtrusive, and really obvious that you are, infact, warpscrambled
Simplest ideas are often the best, like this one.
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Rakaim
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:26:00 -
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/me signed
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Zevlia
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Posted - 2008.01.24 06:09:00 -
[51]
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Gner Dechast
Flashman Services
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: Gner Dechast on 24/01/2008 09:54:51
Originally by: Kylegar
If you turn the velocity bar(where it shows your speed) red, that would do nicely. Its unobtrusive, and really obvious that you are, infact, warpscrambled
I always like my own ideas better than any of yours (means everyone else, except me), but now I like Kylegar's idea even better than my own proposal (omgwtfamIcrazy)...
And if "you may not like us modifying UI" and/or "your inferior customer brain can understand only so much" are excuses from CCP side, make it configurable option. 
Idea's don't get better than this - suggest you take this one at heart.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Infinity Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kylegar
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
Actually I've known guys that have died because they assumed they were warp scrambled but weren't.
Knowing whether you can warp or not is probably the most vital information you can have. Of course your brain can only handle so much information and we have to be careful about which way we display them because to shouty kind of notification can overshadow other notifications which may be just as vital.
UI is also something that everyone has strong opinion about which is not surprising since its our most visible part of EVE so any way we choose to go a good portion of you guys will hate it
One thing we can all agree on though and that is we need a better notification of who is doing what to us. I hope you view our upcoming changes to the overview as a step into the right direction.
If you turn the velocity bar(where it shows your speed) red, that would do nicely. Its unobtrusive, and really obvious that you are, infact, warpscrambled
that woudl create a storm of complains form the 5% of population that has issues seeing colors.
maybe a simple simble inside the speed bar....
anyway i dotn like. Because i don 't carry scramblers and usually thrust on my enemy not noticing that. Surprisingly it works a lot of times.
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Candy Drop
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Posted - 2008.01.24 11:00:00 -
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I think green would be better option. Blue is web
red is energy neut/vamped... please do green
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Internet Knight
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Posted - 2008.01.24 13:31:00 -
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You all know that these ship-to-ship effects that you're referencing (Nos, web, etc) are all turned off if you have effects disabled, right?
You all know that the current warp scramble effect also gets turned off if you have effects disabled, right?
You all also know that the current warp scramble notices also get turned off if you have effects disabled, right?
That last bit needs to change.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Internet Knight
You all know that the current warp scramble effect also gets turned off if you have effects disabled, right?
Although true, the jam effect is hard to see once lots of things are going on. The effect is very light, those small blue circles are easily lost amongst other things. Also webbing, though easy to see, gives no indication as to who is doing the webbing.
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Kalamurii Izanthor
Aggressive Tendencies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:34:00 -
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What would be really great is if you could simultaneously see what is being done to you and by who.
Perhaps something on the overview? or on the graphics when in battle
For example if ship [a] (imagine [] and.. [ ] are ships as they are shown in game, shouldnt be hard, they have brackets too)
and next to that if you are being warp scrambled, you would see something like ...
Scr -2 [ ] (again [ ] being the ship)
the number would represent the amount of points. Something similar would be done for ecm and webbing
web -90 [ ]
jam [ ]
nos x5 [ ] (# = amount of nos)
damp x3 [ ] (# = amount of dampeners)
Maybe you could even cahnge the color of the blinking brackets. You know like when you are being targetted you see flashing yellow, and flashing red when you are being attacked, they could have additional brackets around the red one that indicate what they are doing to you, maybe red with white moving around within the bracket is nos, red with blue, is scram, and red with green is web, and other colours for other effects, such as dampeners and tracking disruptors. Maybe you could even have a small circle next to their ship that depending on the colour(s) you could tell whats being done, or even have multiple circles that define multiple effects.
And ofcourse have this option done in such a way that you could turn these effects off.
You could do any number of things.
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2008.01.24 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford
Actually I've known guys that have died because they assumed they were warp scrambled but weren't.
Knowing whether you can warp or not is probably the most vital information you can have. Of course your brain can only handle so much information and we have to be careful about which way we display them because to shouty kind of notification can overshadow other notifications which may be just as vital.
UI is also something that everyone has strong opinion about which is not surprising since its our most visible part of EVE so any way we choose to go a good portion of you guys will hate it
One thing we can all agree on though and that is we need a better notification of who is doing what to us. I hope you view our upcoming changes to the overview as a step into the right direction.
yer i can see it takes an enormous amount of intelligent to set up a ui with 4 small boxes that just needs a X when your effected by that EW type... and DAMN it would REALLY overload your brain to have such a box somewhere, WOW what should we do, TOO MUCH INFO HELP!!!!
i seriously don't get why these so small and SO EASY things can be such a big task for you to implement... not like we are asking for big flashy effects, a checkbox would be fine to begin with.. sigh
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IHaveTenFingers
Caldari
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.25 05:01:00 -
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Simple: Warp strength indicator, an integer value displayed on the screen somewhere.
-TF
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Brixer
Dai Dai Hai
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Posted - 2008.01.25 13:07:00 -
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Probably suggested before, but a yellow frame around the speed-o-meter if webbed.. A red (flashing?) frame if scrammed?
You don't need new buttons and/or gadgets to make this happen.
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