Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Thats why bob came to catch to fight with us + RA (2.5k member total), and bring MC and 7+ pet alliances

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Thats why bob came to catch to fight with us + RA (2.5k member total), and bring MC and 7+ pet alliances

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Originally by: ImMeGaLoN

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Thats why bob came to catch to fight with us + RA (2.5k member total), and bring MC and 7+ pet alliances

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You dare to talk about blobbing? lol

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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter

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Originally by: ImMeGaLoN

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Thats why bob came to catch to fight with us + RA (2.5k member total), and bring MC and 7+ pet alliances

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You dare to talk about blobbing? lol

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u dare talk to et ?

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Thats why bob came to catch to fight with us + RA (2.5k member total), and bring MC and 7+ pet alliances

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Originally by: Lemptie

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Only thing they do is ,sit with 150 in a system,with 30 carries.And when they spot a bigfleet coming, the launch all fighters and the lag starts.Evry one that jumps in will die,when you dead you don`t know it.Then you go to BOB killboard and you see that you are dead.
Then you go ratting for your next fittings.
Then you gona tell yes i play eve,but i never fight,i die without firing one shot.


EvE a SPACE pvp game.

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Originally by: torN Deception

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Edited by: torN Deception on 12/01/2008 11:52:08
BoB's got a hard-on for k/d and they measure that by battlships, which is perhaps why BoB almost never flies battleships. They fly(and lose) far more expensive HACs and command ships so they can jerk off to their great BS k/d ratio..

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Originally by: torN Deception

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Edited by: torN Deception on 12/01/2008 11:52:08
BoB's got a hard-on for k/d and they measure that by battlships, which is perhaps why BoB almost never flies battleships. They fly(and lose) far more expensive HACs and command ships so they can jerk off to their great BS k/d ratio.

As as people have mentioned, BoB will go log off or hide in a POS if they can't get a fight in their favor. While goons will happily throw away entire fleets in situations where the exact same thing has happened a dozen times before.

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Hmm. If bob never flys battleships, then why cant our battleships massacre their fleet?

I am being honest here. But I have noticed that bob keeps battleships alive as they fly around in navy megas, fleet temptests and nightmares, which I think are supertank traps to soak up enemy fire, while the rest of their pilots attack freely. I think we take too much ineffective ships such as Amarr pilots to fight bob, and we just cannot compete with them on a equal number basis.

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Originally by: Lady Valory

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With so much slant one way or the other about the war in these last 2 months I've decided to just look at the killboards once a day.

What I notice about the BoB killboard is they hi-lite battleships killed, and every day the ratio is something amazingly extreme such as BoB kills 50 battleships for losing about 5-10 BS.

So, my question is this: is this really true that day after day BoB kills 5-10 times more bs than their enemies?

Also when BoB lost so many regions, were there battles that crushed them with huge losses or did they just pull back and abandon territory without losing mass amounts of ships?

I know this COAD forum has degenerated pretty low this last 2 months, and I'm not trying to bring this lower. This is not a propaganda thread but a search for information and comments on the current war.

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Originally by: Bender

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Interesting, no the other one ... tedious

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Originally by: umop 3pisdn

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THIS IS A GREAT THREAD GUYS

BoB win fleet battles because they wont engage unless they will win, which is fair enough.

BoB also have very professional fleets and FCs

K/D ratio is what wins eve btw

All their pets are dead and bob is back to relying on DD spamming to stay ahead of the pack

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Originally by: sakana

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Edited by: sakana on 12/01/2008 12:14:06
Its highly possible after a fleet battle like the BoB vs smashkill and co fight the other day, that bob did get amazing bs stats.

Another possibility is that bob use the API key to auto post losses, which everyone knows is bugged to ****.

Another possibility is that, according to BoB rules, you must post your loss within 24hrs, so perhaps people wait til that 24hrs is almost up before they post their loss, so that the losses only show up for a few minutes before the new day begins.

I can't say if any of these are true, but their all possible/plausible.

Also...LOL at mitch taylor saying who is and isnt cool

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Originally by: sakana

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Edited by: sakana on 12/01/2008 12:14:06
Its highly possible after a fleet battle like the BoB vs smashkill and co fight the other day, that bob did get amazing bs stats.

Another possibility is that bob use the API key to auto post losses, which everyone knows is bugged to ****.

Another possibility is that, according to BoB rules, you must post your loss within 24hrs, so perhaps people wait til that 24hrs is almost up before they post their loss, so that the losses only show up for a few minutes before the new day begins.

I can't say if any of these are true, but their all possible/plausible.

Also...LOL at mitch taylor saying who is and isnt cool

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Originally by: Endeva

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Originally by: sakana

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Edited by: sakana on 12/01/2008 12:14:06
Its highly possible after a fleet battle like the BoB vs smashkill and co fight the other day, that bob did get amazing bs stats.

Another possibility is that bob use the API key to auto post losses, which everyone knows is bugged to ****.

Another possibility is that, according to BoB rules, you must post your loss within 24hrs, so perhaps people wait til that 24hrs is almost up before they post their loss, so that the losses only show up for a few minutes before the new day begins.

I can't say if any of these are true, but their all possible/plausible.

Also...LOL at mitch taylor saying who is and isnt cool

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dont tell you actually believe in this:P?

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Though bob does fight seriously outnumbered, I will be honest in saying that most coalation alliances run or log unless they outnumber bob 2-1

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Originally by: sakana

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Edited by: sakana on 12/01/2008 12:14:06
Its highly possible after a fleet battle like the BoB vs smashkill and co fight the other day, that bob did get amazing bs stats.

Another possibility is that bob use the API key to auto post losses, which everyone knows is bugged to ****.

Another possibility is that, according to BoB rules, you must post your loss within 24hrs, so perhaps people wait til that 24hrs is almost up before they post their loss, so that the losses only show up for a few minutes before the new day begins.

I can't say if any of these are true, but their all possible/plausible.

Also...LOL at mitch taylor saying who is and isnt cool

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Originally by: ISD Cortes

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You're at liberty to use the rolling sig you had, as long as there's no chimeras covering the nether regions of voluptuous females.

Originally by: Lady Valory

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With so much slant one way or the other about the war in these last 2 months I've decided to just look at the killboards once a day.

What I notice about the BoB killboard is they hi-lite battleships killed, and every day the ratio is something amazingly extreme such as BoB kills 50 battleships for losing about 5-10 BS.

So, my question is this: is this really true that day after day BoB kills 5-10 times more bs than their enemies?

Also when BoB lost so many regions, were there battles that crushed them with huge losses or did they just pull back and abandon territory without losing mass amounts of ships?

I know this COAD forum has degenerated pretty low this last 2 months, and I'm not trying to bring this lower. This is not a propaganda thread but a search for information and comments on the current war.

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Originally by: Shinori

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BOB members rush to a killboard ratio thread ITT.

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Originally by: Lady Valory

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ragoons, IAC, AAA (insert at least 10 other alliances in here) then took most of querious, again mostly unchallenged (a few big fights in FAT ans 25s), in the end they were surrended without a concluding battle.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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One reason bob get such favorables K-D ratio is that they generally have a spy on the enemy's TS telling them who is going to get called primary/secondary, so they can lock him to remote him, who's calling the shots so bob kill him first, etc...

They're good at pvp, but wouldn't get such favorable ratios without metagaming.

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Originally by: Tzrailasa

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Most of our hostiles however seem to think that 'PvP' means 'Player vs. POS when BoB is busy 20 jumps away'

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Originally by: Avon

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Edited by: Avon on 12/01/2008 12:57:18

Originally by: Shadowsword

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One reason bob get such favorables K-D ratio is that they generally have a spy on the enemy's TS telling them who is going to get called primary/secondary, so they can lock him to remote him, who's calling the shots so bob kill him first, etc...

They're good at pvp, but wouldn't get such favorable ratios without metagaming.

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Yeah, it is amazing how great that works in a lagged up system.
No, really.

The fact is, you *thinking* we have spies on your TS is enough to give us the advantage.

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Originally by: V'elan

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Edited by: V''elan on 12/01/2008 12:59:25

Originally by: CamMan

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ragoons, IAC, AAA (insert at least 10 other alliances in here) then took most of querious, again mostly unchallenged (a few big fights in FAT ans 25s), in the end they were surrended without a concluding battle.

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To keep this reasonable post reasonable it was Razor who did a lot of the heavy lifting in Querious. Just looking at who has the stations should tell you this. Though maybe you meant Catch.

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Originally by: Avon

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Edited by: Avon on 12/01/2008 12:57:18

Originally by: Shadowsword

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One reason bob get such favorables K-D ratio is that they generally have a spy on the enemy's TS telling them who is going to get called primary/secondary, so they can lock him to remote him, who's calling the shots so bob kill him first, etc...

They're good at pvp, but wouldn't get such favorable ratios without metagaming.

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Yeah, it is amazing how great that works in a lagged up system.
No, really.

The fact is, you *thinking* we have spies on your TS is enough to give us the advantage.

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Originally by: ciapek

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back to topic ill tell you why bob is so good, cause they are damn good and your not !

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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BoB are very, very good at fleet battles, this is due to a number of factors including:

- they mostly bring the right kind of ships (tons of tempests etc), with the right fittings which when you are fighting a more mixed opponent makes a huge difference. Mix this up with very fast dictors and good fcs and its already putting you miles ahead of the pack.

- whenever they are fighting a large alliance enemy then you can be pretty sure they will have spies both in gang and on your TS so that its almost impossible to take them by surprise.

- they are very disciplined which makes an enormous difference in lagfests, they know not to spam buttons and to ride out the worst of it.

- a lot of the people they fight are pretty mediocre pvpers, and if you are in a good, well drilled fleet you can absolutely wipe out a similar sized fleet of nubs.

If I saw a BS ratio of 20:1 on their KB it would not surprise me very much.

This all makes it kind of funny the people that have jumped to join bob claiming they want epic fights, when the most epic fights are fighting against them

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Originally by: Scavok

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Edited by: Scavok on 12/01/2008 13:08:17

Originally by: Tzrailasa

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Most of our hostiles however seem to think that 'PvP' means 'Player vs. POS when BoB is busy 20 jumps away'

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So far in our first 5 days we've killed or stolen about 20 POS in Y-2, 8QT, and Delve. About 15 of which were armed large POS, and half of those faction. If you would come within 20 jumps to defend your POS then we could get some PVP. Instead you only show up to defend towers from 18:00-23:00eve, and even then it's just in sov 3 systems where you have multiple titans and dozens of carriers under a cyno jammer.

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Originally by: Mitch Taylor

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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter

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Originally by: ImMeGaLoN

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Thats why bob came to catch to fight with us + RA (2.5k member total), and bring MC and 7+ pet alliances

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You dare to talk about blobbing? lol

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u dare talk to et ?

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Being in cosmic fusion now doesnt make you as cool as the original members wierchas, punch at your own weight and stay out of this one.

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Originally by: Juha85

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Defending the most important systems is called strategy.

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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To respond to the OP, reasons I found Bobs killboard to be inaccurate (and it's been a long time since I was in the south) were.

[b]1 Bob do not always post their losses.

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Originally by: Scavok

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Most of BoB's large fights in the last week have been turkey shoots with people thinking they have the edge, jumping into them, and then dieing because nobody can load. The only reasonably safe way to enter a lagged system is through a jump bridge at an armed POS, but nearly all of the systems that BoB are fighting in are jammed, so there's not much choice if BoB manages to rep the jammer and form up before your fleet enters the system. Other alliances like TCF, IAC, and GS never really have a choice since we don't own titans. Many of their systems also have jump bridge arrays that work in jammed systems so if those aren't knocked out they don't even need to take their jammer down at any point to enter the system safely with any ship, including titans, so you can't always sneak a capital fleet in system when BoB brings theirs.

The 2 or 3 times BoB was willing to jump into us in 9-9 once we had the jammer up the results were mostly the same. I can't think of any other systems that BoB fought a POS war in that had the jammer on our side. 25S and FAT were jammed but Goonswarm wasn't really involved there when BoB took it so I don't know much about it, aside from the jammer frequently being offlined for god knows whatever reason. It certainly doesn't look like it was a turkey shoot for them though.

Even the fight tonight against MC where it looks like BoB wiped the floor with them was at an armed POS since MC needed the jammer down.

So not counting doomsdays, I'd attribute 95% of the fights where they get absurd ratios to lag and defensive advantages CCP put in with the titan nerf. If you get them in a fight where two fleets with the same types of ships both have the grid loaded then their ships die just as easily as anyone else's, but BoB avoids these types of fights like the plague and cyno jammers make it easy to do so.

As for significant losses when they pulled back, just about every time BoB pulled out of a region it was after a pretty significant defeat. After 9-9 they gave up in Tenerifis, after 66- they pulled everything out of Omist. We killed over 70 large armed POS of theirs between those two systems, they didn't exactly sit by the entire time, we traded a lot of fleets and capitals. In 2-R after BoB failed to kill any GS towers and lost 10 capitals trying to re-reinforce them the next day, they gave up trying to defend K-9/2-R and went back to 25S/FAT. When the last RISE towers were exiting reinforced in 5P-, BoB was unwilling to jump into the GS, TCF, and UNL fleets and ended up pulling out of the rest of ASCN space without a significant fight. V2-, 5-N, and most of fountain they let go to wave their **** in front of MC. In FAT they pulled out after the cyno jammer POS went down, and in 25S they pulled out after we killed something like 8 carriers and a fleet trying to save the jammer POS for few losses.

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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1 Bob do not always post their losses

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2 When they do post their losses they are often slow about it so they do not appear on any daily K/D ratio

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3 Bob killboard does not show allied deaths but shows all kills a Bob member was involved in even if he was just 1 member in a fleet battle

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4 Bob killboard shows Battelship K/D ratios yet Bob fly a lot of tech II cruisers.

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Were Bob have been out ahead of other allainces in the past is in the K/D ratio chest beating, but even that has died down to more normal levels in the last 6-12 months now they are taking a beating.

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Originally by: sakana

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Also...LOL at mitch taylor saying who is and isnt cool

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Originally by: YouShallKnowFear

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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1 Bob do not always post their losses

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Yes, they do. API key grabs loss mails effectively, they even have a forum section where hostiles can come post missing mails. Note how small that thread is.

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2 When they do post their losses they are often slow about it so they do not appear on any daily K/D ratio

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Ridiculous. Go back a week or two and look at the daily battleship ratios. Roughly the same as they are today. Get real.

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3 Bob killboard does not show allied deaths but shows all kills a Bob member was involved in even if he was just 1 member in a fleet battle

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Unlike most other alliances involved in this conflict, BoB fleets are ~90% BoB. So while the effect you describe does effect every alliance, it effects BoB to a lesser degree. The coalition loves to point out that BoB has no allies left, and yet doesn't apply this to kb stats. Cute.

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4 Bob killboard shows Battelship K/D ratios yet Bob fly a lot of tech II cruisers.

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Wrong again. Please head to BoB killboard, look at the fleet battle statistics, and note the overwhelming numbers of battleships in those fleets. Hell, your forum spies should note, as mine have, that BoB is being ordered to NOT fly tech II cruisers.

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Were Bob have been out ahead of other allainces in the past is in the K/D ratio chest beating, but even that has died down to more normal levels in the last 6-12 months now they are taking a beating.

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BoBs stats today are as good as they've always been. The only people taking a beating are BoB ammo manufacturers and the coalition.

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Originally by: YouShallKnowFear

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Yes, they do. API key grabs loss mails effectively, they even have a forum section where hostiles can come post missing mails. Note how small that thread is.

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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To respond to the OP, reasons I found Bobs killboard to be inaccurate (and it's been a long time since I was in the south) were.

1 Bob do not always post their losses

2 When they do post their losses they are often slow about it so they do not appear on any daily K/D ratio

3 Bob killboard does not show allied deaths but shows all kills a Bob member was involved in even if he was just 1 member in a fleet battle

4 Bob killboard shows Battelship K/D ratios yet Bob fly a lot of tech II cruisers.


Non of the above are unique to Bob and help to explain many great looking stats around the various allaince/merc killboards.

Slowly some killboards have attempted to address this with points sytems and isk values, but until there is a universal killboard then we can enjoy the speculation we have about who has the biggest best and most impressive K/D ratio and if CAOD wasn't arguing about K/D then it would soon find something else to whine about.


Were Bob have been out ahead of other allainces in the past is in the K/D ratio chest beating, but even that has died down to more normal levels in the last 6-12 months now they are taking a beating.

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Originally by: Jakiri

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Originally by: YouShallKnowFear

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Yes, they do. API key grabs loss mails effectively, they even have a forum section where hostiles can come post missing mails. Note how small that thread is.

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I'm not going to go sign up for their forums just to get them to post kills that are missing, and I doubt anyone else is either.

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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter

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do u realy thing original guy still owns this char ?

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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One reason bob get such favorables K-D ratio is that they generally have a spy on the enemy's TS telling them who is going to get called primary/secondary, so they can lock him to remote him, who's calling the shots so bob kill him first, etc...

They're good at pvp, but wouldn't get such favorable ratios without metagaming.

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Thats why bob came to catch to fight with us + RA (2.5k member total), and bring MC and 7+ pet alliances

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Originally by: Angelus X

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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To respond to the OP, reasons I found Bobs killboard to be inaccurate (and it's been a long time since I was in the south) were.

[b]1 Bob do not always post their losses.

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Glad to see the bitterness doesn't fade with time CptStabwash

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Originally by: Angelus X

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It's well known that all BoB pilots post their lossmails, and on the rare occasion that any do get missed, they are more than welcome to be sent to any BoB CEO or Director and said pilot gets a spanking.

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Originally by: Angelus X

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The problem with allied mails is unavoidable, short of giving every single pilot that's ever been on a KM aside a BoB pilot access to our killboard...

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Originally by: Angelus X

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I'd like to see another alliances killboard more accurate than ours.

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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Stuff

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Originally by: YouShallKnowFear

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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Stuff

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1 My post very specifically mentioned it was a long time since i was fighting Bob in the south certainly pre API killboards. I am under the impression however that API has problems with losses and they may not get posted.

2 Does the Bob killboard hold logs on when posts are made? if so I think it would be interesting to see how many get posted on a different day to their timestamp.

3 I am not part of the coalition, I don't speculate how many allies Bob has remaining. even according to your off the top of your head figure of 90% then allies account for roughly a 10% killboard inaccuracy. Significant enough for me to mention when responding to the OP as a factor in the killnoard stats.

4 It is entirely possible Bob have changed their fleet makeup since I fought them. I do not have the benefit of forum spies or Database knowledge/access enough to examine the killboard. A quick look at the the KB does suggest that Bob lose a lot more Tech II cruisers than they do battleships.

5 K/D stats may be as good as ever but the stats here Eve Territorial Maps suggests they are on the wrong end of the mother of all beatings

Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light

Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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5 K/D stats may be as good as ever but the stats here Eve Territorial Maps suggests they are on the wrong end of the mother of all beatings

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Originally by: Scavok

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Most of BoB's large fights in the last week have been turkey shoots with people thinking they have the edge, jumping into them, and then dieing because nobody can load. The only reasonably safe way to enter a lagged system is through a jump bridge at an armed POS, but nearly all of the systems that BoB are fighting in are jammed, so there's not much choice if BoB manages to rep the jammer and form up before your fleet enters the system. Other alliances like TCF, IAC, and GS never really have a choice since we don't own titans. Many of their systems also have jump bridge arrays that work in jammed systems so if those aren't knocked out they don't even need to take their jammer down at any point to enter the system safely with any ship, including titans, so you can't always sneak a capital fleet in system when BoB brings theirs.

The 2 or 3 times BoB was willing to jump into us in 9-9 once we had the jammer up the results were mostly the same. I can't think of any other systems that BoB fought a POS war in that had the jammer on our side. 25S and FAT were jammed but Goonswarm wasn't really involved there when BoB took it so I don't know much about it, aside from the jammer frequently being offlined for god knows whatever reason. It certainly doesn't look like it was a turkey shoot for them though.

Even the fight tonight against MC where it looks like BoB wiped the floor with them was at an armed POS since MC needed the jammer down.

So not counting doomsdays, I'd attribute 95% of the fights where they get absurd ratios to lag and defensive advantages CCP put in with the titan nerf. If you get them in a fight where two fleets with the same types of ships both have the grid loaded then their ships die just as easily as anyone else's, but BoB avoids these types of fights like the plague and cyno jammers make it easy to do so.

As for significant losses when they pulled back, just about every time BoB pulled out of a region it was after a pretty significant defeat. After 9-9 they gave up in Tenerifis, after 66- they pulled everything out of Omist. We killed over 70 large armed POS of theirs between those two systems, they didn't exactly sit by the entire time, we traded a lot of fleets and capitals. In 2-R after BoB failed to kill any GS towers and lost 10 capitals trying to re-reinforce them the next day, they gave up trying to defend K-9/2-R and went back to 25S/FAT. When the last RISE towers were exiting reinforced in 5P-, BoB was unwilling to jump into the GS, TCF, and UNL fleets and ended up pulling out of the rest of ASCN space without a significant fight. V2-, 5-N, and most of fountain they let go to wave their **** in front of MC. In FAT they pulled out after the cyno jammer POS went down, and in 25S they pulled out after we killed something like 8 carriers and a fleet trying to save the jammer POS for few losses.

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Originally by: XoPhyte

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Watching BS fleets warp in at range, snipe, warp out, reset up for another strike etc are gone.

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Originally by: Lord Shreder

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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5 K/D stats may be as good as ever but the stats here Eve Territorial Maps suggests they are on the wrong end of the mother of all beatings

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Ok goonalt . The question was around the KILLBOARD and FLEETBATTLES, not how many regions has bob taken or lost. post with your goon main, and we all know your saying. It's not K/D ratios, but about the end objective. Don't work so hard to push your propaganda.

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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and wasn't it DBP who liked to quote: It's better to keep quiet and have people think you're stupid, than to open your mouth and confirm it.
- Mark Twain

For the first time in my forum career I am going to advise somebody to listen to DBP

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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1 Bob do not always post their losses

2 When they do post their losses they are often slow about it so they do not appear on any daily K/D ratio

3 Bob killboard does not show allied deaths but shows all kills a Bob member was involved in even if he was just 1 member in a fleet battle

4 Bob killboard shows Battelship K/D ratios yet Bob fly a lot of tech II cruisers.

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Originally by: Cvuos

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BoB does not always post their losses, but they are way better at it than most. The GF killboard is leekspinned at the moment so I can't link comparisons but mostly it's new BoB members with dumb fittings that don't post. I'm sure there's mistakes and forgetfulness as well, but I don't care because I play Eve Online not killboard.com.

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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash

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To respond to the OP, reasons I found Bobs killboard to be inaccurate (and it's been a long time since I was in the south) were.

1 Bob do not always post their losses

2 When they do post their losses they are often slow about it so they do not appear on any daily K/D ratio

3 Bob killboard does not show allied deaths but shows all kills a Bob member was involved in even if he was just 1 member in a fleet battle

4 Bob killboard shows Battelship K/D ratios yet Bob fly a lot of tech II cruisers.


Non of the above are unique to Bob and help to explain many great looking stats around the various allaince/merc killboards.

Slowly some killboards have attempted to address this with points sytems and isk values, but until there is a universal killboard then we can enjoy the speculation we have about who has the biggest best and most impressive K/D ratio and if CAOD wasn't arguing about K/D then it would soon find something else to whine about.


Were Bob have been out ahead of other allainces in the past is in the K/D ratio chest beating, but even that has died down to more normal levels in the last 6-12 months now they are taking a beating.

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Originally by: torN Deception

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Edited by: torN Deception on 12/01/2008 11:52:08
BoB's got a hard-on for k/d and they measure that by battlships, which is perhaps why BoB almost never flies battleships. They fly(and lose) far more expensive HACs and command ships so they can jerk off to their great BS k/d ratio.

As as people have mentioned, BoB will go log off or hide in a POS if they can't get a fight in their favor. While goons will happily throw away entire fleets in situations where the exact same thing has happened a dozen times before.

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Originally by: Cvuos

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BoB does not always post their losses, but they are way better at it than most. The GF killboard is leekspinned at the moment so I can't link comparisons but mostly it's new BoB members with dumb fittings that don't post. I'm sure there's mistakes and forgetfulness as well, but I don't care because I play Eve Online not killboard.com.

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I heard goonfleet killboard got reinforced by bob killboard. I understand there is plenty of stront to keep goon board going for now.

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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BoB have lost heavily against fewer numbers in the past. Unfortunately they've owned CAOD for the last 3 years (excluding the last 4-5months) so any losses were quickly buried under a pile of posts and insults ("you're insignificant" etc) by their own memberbase and the legion of adoring fans they had at the time. Having said they rarely lost capital ships, whether or not thats still the case I don't know.

They're still pound for pound the best pvp alliance in the game but they're not infallible and never have been. If you read these forums too much a year or two back I wouldn't blame you for believing it though. They twisted everyone on these forums around their little fingers with masterfully timed propaganda.

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 12/01/2008 11:52:07

Originally by: Lemptie

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Only thing they do is ,sit with 150 in a system,with 30 carries.And when they spot a bigfleet coming, the launch all fighters and the lag starts.Evry one that jumps in will die,when you dead you don`t know it.Then you go to BOB killboard and you see that you are dead.
Then you go ratting for your next fittings.
Then you gona tell yes i play eve,but i never fight,i die without firing one shot.


EvE a SPACE pvp game.

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One thing that we northerns are aware of is that bob use far too many gallente ships. This means that when we amarr pilots attack them, we need to outnumber bob at least 3-1 to have any chance of victory.

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Originally by: Doddy

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We never make up more than about 10-20% of BoB fleets

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Originally by: Sentinel Eeex

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Hi.

Do you happen to know which alliance was the first one to be attributed with 'blob' word?

Thank you.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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One reason bob get such favorables K-D ratio is that they generally have a spy on the enemy's TS telling them who is going to get called primary/secondary, so they can lock him to remote him, who's calling the shots so bob kill him first, etc...

They're good at pvp, but wouldn't get such favorable ratios without metagaming.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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One reason bob get such favorables K-D ratio is that they generally have a spy on the enemy's TS telling them who is going to get called primary/secondary, so they can lock him to remote him, who's calling the shots so bob kill him first, etc...

They're good at pvp, but wouldn't get such favorable ratios without metagaming.

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Originally by: Merkava 5

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PFFFFFF!!!!!! yeah right! you forgot to mention we have our alts rating/mining/picking their noses/ etc. at the same time, and we can even change scripts with out any lag.

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Originally by: torN Deception

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Edited by: torN Deception on 12/01/2008 11:52:08
BoB's got a hard-on for k/d and they measure that by battlships, which is perhaps why BoB almost never flies battleships. They fly(and lose) far more expensive HACs and command ships so they can jerk off to their great BS k/d ratio.

As as people have mentioned, BoB will go log off or hide in a POS if they can't get a fight in their favor. While goons will happily throw away entire fleets in situations where the exact same thing has happened a dozen times before.

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Originally by: Sentinel Eeex

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Hi.

Do you happen to know which alliance was the first one to be attributed with 'blob' word?

Thank you.

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• Dont fly battleships


• Have never won a fight without using spys


• dont post our losses


• invented the blob


• Only engage when we outnumber the enemy greatly


• Only Hide in pos's

Originally by: XoPhyte

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Edited by: XoPhyte on 12/01/2008 20:43:57

Originally by: Sentinel Eeex

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Hi.

Do you happen to know which alliance was the first one to be attributed with 'blob' word?

Thank you.

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ASCN which your corp (DS1) was a major player in. Guess the tactics have not changed any when you joined goons.

So far in this thread we....

• Dont fly battleships


• Have never won a fight without using spys


• dont post our losses


• invented the blob


• Only engage when we outnumber the enemy greatly


• Only Hide in pos's

Have I missed anything?

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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BoB have lost heavily against fewer numbers in the past. Unfortunately they've owned CAOD for the last 3 years (excluding the last 4-5months) so any losses were quickly buried under a pile of posts and insults ("you're insignificant" etc) by their own memberbase and the legion of adoring fans they had at the time. Having said they rarely lost capital ships, whether or not thats still the case I don't know.

They're still pound for pound the best pvp alliance in the game but they're not infallible and never have been. If you read these forums too much a year or two back I wouldn't blame you for believing it though. They twisted everyone on these forums around their little fingers with masterfully timed propaganda.

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Originally by: Hrin

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A secret to Bob's success is that they never jump into a gate camp without some trickery. If no trickery exists, they will sit on a gate camp for many hours and then leave to go ride bikes. That way, when the enemy has ADD they will eventually jump into BoB, get desynched, never load grid, etc and give BoB completely awesome K/D ratios.

BoB will not go into a situation where they have to load a grid where the enemy is already present unless they have overwhelming forces, such as supercapitals, or they outnumber the enemy.

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Originally by: ardik

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I was under the impression that the bob kb was mostly fed by API these days, but it seems like it only takes kills from the api, losses have to be fed manually. But I'm sure that's purely a coincidence.

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Originally by: XoPhyte

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Edited by: XoPhyte on 12/01/2008 20:43:57

Originally by: Sentinel Eeex

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Originally by: Endeva

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in eve

blob > skills

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Hi.

Do you happen to know which alliance was the first one to be attributed with 'blob' word?

Thank you.

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ASCN which your corp (DS1) was a major player in. Guess the tactics have not changed any when you joined goons.

So far in this thread we....

• Dont fly battleships


• Have never won a fight without using spys


• dont post our losses


• invented the blob


• Only engage when we outnumber the enemy greatly


• Only Hide in pos's

Have I missed anything?

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Originally by: Hrin

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A secret to Bob's success is that they never jump into a gate camp without some trickery. If no trickery exists, they will sit on a gate camp for many hours and then leave to go ride bikes. That way, when the enemy has ADD they will eventually jump into BoB, get desynched, never load grid, etc and give BoB completely awesome K/D ratios.

BoB will not go into a situation where they have to load a grid where the enemy is already present unless they have overwhelming forces, such as supercapitals, or they outnumber the enemy.

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Originally by: Moonlight Express

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Originally by: Hrin

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A secret to Bob's success is that they never jump into a gate camp without some trickery. If no trickery exists, they will sit on a gate camp for many hours and then leave to go ride bikes. That way, when the enemy has ADD they will eventually jump into BoB, get desynched, never load grid, etc and give BoB completely awesome K/D ratios.

BoB will not go into a situation where they have to load a grid where the enemy is already present unless they have overwhelming forces, such as supercapitals, or they outnumber the enemy.

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Oh, this is classic. The goons outnumber BoB 3-1 and expect BoB to jump in to them while defending. How about BoB logs off their Titan for you while aggressed? Would that help goons win? How about POTBS?

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Originally by: Hrin

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Originally by: Moonlight Express

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Originally by: Hrin

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A secret to Bob's success is that they never jump into a gate camp without some trickery. If no trickery exists, they will sit on a gate camp for many hours and then leave to go ride bikes. That way, when the enemy has ADD they will eventually jump into BoB, get desynched, never load grid, etc and give BoB completely awesome K/D ratios.

BoB will not go into a situation where they have to load a grid where the enemy is already present unless they have overwhelming forces, such as supercapitals, or they outnumber the enemy.

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Oh, this is classic. The goons outnumber BoB 3-1 and expect BoB to jump in to them while defending. How about BoB logs off their Titan for you while aggressed? Would that help goons win? How about POTBS?

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I'm just telling you how BoB gets its epic fights and K/D ratio. They only want epic fights after all. Epic Fights.

Oh and we don't need Shrike to log off to kill him, I know plenty about that one. The only ones who can't kill a piloted titan are BoB.

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Originally by: Hrin

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Originally by: Moonlight Express

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Originally by: Hrin

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A secret to Bob's success is that they never jump into a gate camp without some trickery. If no trickery exists, they will sit on a gate camp for many hours and then leave to go ride bikes. That way, when the enemy has ADD they will eventually jump into BoB, get desynched, never load grid, etc and give BoB completely awesome K/D ratios.

BoB will not go into a situation where they have to load a grid where the enemy is already present unless they have overwhelming forces, such as supercapitals, or they outnumber the enemy.

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Oh, this is classic. The goons outnumber BoB 3-1 and expect BoB to jump in to them while defending. How about BoB logs off their Titan for you while aggressed? Would that help goons win? How about POTBS?

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Quote:

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I'm just telling you how BoB gets its epic fights and K/D ratio. They only want epic fights after all. Epic Fights.

Oh and we don't need Shrike to log off to kill him, I know plenty about that one. The only ones who can't kill a piloted titan are BoB.

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Be more of a baby please, it's called strategy and tactics, if you can't deal with getting your butt handed to you because we played the game smartly, then go back to WoW.

Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Originally by: Hrin

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Originally by: Moonlight Express

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Originally by: Hrin

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A secret to Bob's success is that they never jump into a gate camp without some trickery. If no trickery exists, they will sit on a gate camp for many hours and then leave to go ride bikes. That way, when the enemy has ADD they will eventually jump into BoB, get desynched, never load grid, etc and give BoB completely awesome K/D ratios.

BoB will not go into a situation where they have to load a grid where the enemy is already present unless they have overwhelming forces, such as supercapitals, or they outnumber the enemy.

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Oh, this is classic. The goons outnumber BoB 3-1 and expect BoB to jump in to them while defending. How about BoB logs off their Titan for you while aggressed? Would that help goons win? How about POTBS?

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I'm just telling you how BoB gets its epic fights and K/D ratio. They only want epic fights after all. Epic Fights.

Oh and we don't need Shrike to log off to kill him, I know plenty about that one. The only ones who can't kill a piloted titan are BoB.

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Wasent that Gallente D2 Titan pilot that bob fought logged in when he was being shot? I saw a screen shot with him online at the time.

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Originally by: Baline Aegis

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You're all wrong.

Here is the reason of the K/D ratio

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Originally by: Baline Aegis

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You're all wrong.

Here is the reason of the K/D ratio

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Originally by: Hrin

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Originally by: Moonlight Express

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Originally by: Hrin

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A secret to Bob's success is that they never jump into a gate camp without some trickery. If no trickery exists, they will sit on a gate camp for many hours and then leave to go ride bikes. That way, when the enemy has ADD they will eventually jump into BoB, get desynched, never load grid, etc and give BoB completely awesome K/D ratios.

BoB will not go into a situation where they have to load a grid where the enemy is already present unless they have overwhelming forces, such as supercapitals, or they outnumber the enemy.

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Oh, this is classic. The goons outnumber BoB 3-1 and expect BoB to jump in to them while defending. How about BoB logs off their Titan for you while aggressed? Would that help goons win? How about POTBS?

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I'm just telling you how BoB gets its epic fights and K/D ratio. They only want epic fights after all. Epic Fights.

Oh and we don't need Shrike to log off to kill him, I know plenty about that one. The only ones who can't kill a piloted titan are BoB.

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Originally by: DoctorGonzo

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Originally by: Baline Aegis

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You're all wrong.

Here is the reason of the K/D ratio

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And what about the picture of the BS kills that the killboard isn't showing?

Meanwhile I'll Dmz what's up with the killboard.

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Originally by: Zu Guty

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I made a mistake in my code concerning the t2 bs kills (if a t2 bs was killed, it ignored all other kind of bs).

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Originally by: Scavok

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Originally by: Tzrailasa

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Most of our hostiles however seem to think that 'PvP' means 'Player vs. POS when BoB is busy 20 jumps away'

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So far in our first 5 days we've killed or stolen about 20 POS in Y-2, 8QT, and Delve. About 15 of which were armed large POS, and half of those faction. If you would come within 20 jumps to defend your POS then we could get some PVP. Instead you only show up to defend towers from 18:00-23:00eve, and even then it's just in sov 3 systems where you have multiple titans and dozens of carriers under a cyno jammer.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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One reason bob get such favorables K-D ratio is that they generally have a spy on the enemy's TS telling them who is going to get called primary/secondary, so they can lock him to remote him, who's calling the shots so bob kill him first, etc...

They're good at pvp, but wouldn't get such favorable ratios without metagaming.

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Originally by: Baline Aegis

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You're all wrong.

Here is the reason of the K/D ratio

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