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Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.12 18:36:00 - [1] Originally by: Graalum Quote: I wouldn't blame them for lying to get whatever ally they can onboard if that is the case. DMC made a diplomatic mistake, and from their own chat log postings, seems they are unwilling to repair it. from my view of it, the larger chatlog was supposed to be showing that the rest of them were telling the angry guy to stfu, which is kinda like apologizing for a drunken friend who is being a dip**. Of course, if rk was in ra's place, our response would probably be 'to bad' followed by much yarrring. General question: so it this going to be a territorial war, or just a 'few the carp out of dmc' war? The problem is - as i understood, that drunken friend was the DMC CEO... So that argument of beein dip** seems not appropriate
Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.12 19:44:00 - [2] Originally by: Frygok Originally by: Mc Leech You can blaim this on capital deals all you want. The simple truth is when 2 blues fighting the rest stay out of it, like KOS vs AAA for example. Now if KOS asked BOB for help vs AAA they will instantly become red to entire coalition which should be no surprize. You allied yourself with chaos and atlas that are red, that made you red, as simple as that the rest are just excuses. Then you shouldn't have promised them what you did, now should you? When one blue is agressing another blue that you have given lifelong protection, you don't feel like you should step in? U know - i actually dont care mucg but 1 thing that should be considered here is the fact that DMC responded instantly to the ka-tet agression with the combined force of them and 2 hostile alliances. I just looked at the other thread and it seems that it was created right while the ka-tet were comming. And right in the first posts it says that atlas and ci are with DMC on this. Ahm... was RA even contacted? How much time did RA get to respond? 5 mins? It seems all was decided beforehand. And i suppose thats what nuns means when he says - well they seem not to need our protection anymore. So we have the siding with hostiles against a long time ally combined with trashtalk from the executor of DMC - that makes some deadly angry russians. Thats more than enough for giving green light for some pew pew.
Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.12 20:23:00 - [3] Originally by: Fletcher Vardy thats a total fabrication , nync is that all u can make up m8 those are not my words ! dude u still find the need to lie i replyed in local to ka-tet after a engagement witch we totally destroyed ka-tet`s gang.eat sh_t u traders we have been friends for a long time now u attack us for RA .that was all that was said i have the logs to prove it .sad really it is sad and to think we acctually respected RA for helping us .DAMM I was very stupid !!! now u feel the need to lie on top of it plus you come to G5 under blue standings no convos of reset standings nothing enter our space (still blue)and attack us .why would i give u 80 bill and then say RA and ka-tet die LMAO .pathetic ,i think RA needs to check itself ,nobody would believe this cr_p.little old DMC iam sure we would invite a war with RA after paying u 80 bill.yea right!!!! Did anyone even think before writing this ? So Katie Price is Ka-Tet? Or did your own corpm8s fake the chatlogs in RA's favour? look at page 2 before posting
Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.12 20:35:00 - [4] Originally by: Ptinoz Originally by: nync We are glad dmc are strong and stand proud and ready to defend themselves, and with might of 2 titans to obliterate any hostile forses attacking them. they have outgrown our protection and don't need it anymore. And atacking KA-TET is another smart move from them and killing aoen class mothership. I wish them good luck and all the best. And hearing this from DMC Ceo, I wana just say 1 thing: DIE Platinum Dagger > eat ** *** traders Platinum Dagger > RA and you will DIE Platinum Dagger > u All standing are reset starting from now, you are KOS now. Well, I understood that you searched for an excuse for backstabbing DMC when U can¦t buy titans at robbery price's. But why U have do not only censorship the local (sorry to say) smack - but also edit it so it both lacks context and get new statements that never was there. I'm sorry that one of our leaders got to *ed with the situation so he smacked a bit to much, however I do understand his anger. That said, here is the true local from the time RA creates a false reason to backstabb someone who paid them greatly just recently: Platinum Dagger > eat sht fcking traders Tal Notts > calm down maya ibuki2 > dont smack Platinum Dagger > fck u Platinum Dagger > we gave u ** bill Platinum Dagger > to protect us Platinum Dagger > now u attack us Platinum Dagger > fck u Vandraren > STOP TALK NOW!"!!!! maya ibuki2 > STOP SMACKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Katie Price > lol Platinum Dagger > leave our space u dont like it Katie Price > u gave us nothing Tal Notts > platinum stop talking in local maya ibuki2 > platinum shut the hll up Andrast3 > NO TALKING IN LOCAL! Platinum Dagger > planium is otr99 Platinum Dagger > so fck ff Tsal Epoh > 0_0 Katie Price > u who ??? nobody ?? Katie Price > ok Platinum Dagger > iam DMC CEO Platinum Dagger > u guys are a bunch of lieing prcks Katie Price > sux to be u Tsal Epoh > katie Tsal Epoh > relax let him do his thing Katie Price > m8 Katie Price > i`m not smacking him Katie Price > u know Tsal Epoh > ooo ok Katie Price > just laughing Platinum Dagger > iam not the one flying home in a pod Platinum Dagger > we gave u * bill funny i think the forums will like this Katie Price > lol nobody care Platinum Dagger > o yea they will hahaha Platinum Dagger > u will see in the following days m8 Geiter > down ...as you see the second local comment is 100% created by RA imagination, and that¦s also their reason to backstab someone they sworn to protect. I feel somehow like i need to quote diz couse it might disappear soon. Someone a couple of posts above is trying to say this never has been said.
Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.12 20:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Orravan Originally by: Taison So Katie Price is Ka-Tet? Is Katie Price RA ? I'll quote myself. Originally by: Orravan Originally by: Zi37A ...that CEO being alliance founder/leader Still, it's one person. Not 1500. Something less trivial : even if it's unexpected from a CEO / diplomat, it's out of the context. Actually, it happen when a(nother) blue fleet engaged DMC. Hence the harsh reaction from someone who doesn't expected an ally to help his ennemy. RA came after. Well actually u could say that Katie is in fact a big part of RA. In fact i would say one of the biggest. But then again i would have to say more than i actually want to say. But this all happens cuz i am at work for 17 hours now, and actually it should be weekend. And i am bored. But one thing i can say is that Katie is the one who did the most work defending c-j back in the days things were really bad.
Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.12 21:13:00 - [6] Originally by: Digicomm They have only allied with goons as a mutual benefit, the goons are nothing without RA and RA is nothing with out goons. Add TCF and u get the whole picture. U know what i think? TCF Goons and RA are the powerblock. All that came later is just for the time beeing. Wait AAA is also long term as they are close friends. All others are just NAP.
Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.12 21:23:00 - [7] Actually i think the picture is the following: Ra pilots are sick of flying somwhere very far from own space to shoot BoB. In fact there even might be a mutual respect @dont touch POS pact@ dealed with them. BoB is in Delve and they wont move far from there in the nearest future. they got enough to do with the Tortuga guys. And for RA to fly to delve and to die there - cuz bob are very good at the defensive - it's just not interesting. The pilots need somethin to shoot. So the closest thing are the drone regions. But whom to shoot there? SMASHKILL? PURE? But that could lead to a conflict with the north and as long as BoB is still around - that wouldnt be wise. So they need some targets that are willing to give a fight - but none that would threaten the @Big War@. And there is DMC. Who minds the guys want to have some fun after all that pos **** sieging? U guys ( DMC ) just came handy for the bloodfirsty RA pilots. Thats all i guess. All other things are just throwing dust into eachother's face
Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.13 12:05:00 - [8] Originally by: BigWhale So, after thirteen pages I decide to post, why? I used to be DMC a year ago, now I am part of DME. My corp joined DME a month ago and we moved back to 0.0 first thing in 2008. Right into the war-zone. Ka-Tet and RA invaded DMC/DME, what are their reasons I don't care. Since I know good deal about how DMC works I am sure they were not breaking any arrangements, unless DMC changed quite a bit in last few months, which I seriously doubt. RA changing standings overnight can mean only one thing: They simply forgot about the arrangement with DMC. Ignored it. If DMC acted hostile against RA friends this could be resolved in a different way if RA wanted that. It really doesn't matter who started first, Ka-Tet or DMC. RA could simply tell both entities to stop fighting, or they could stand aside, grab the popcorn and watch the fight. If they wanted that. Will DMC/DME watch idly and do nothing? Of course not. We are putting up a fight, we like were we live and we will fight for our home. Are we a care-bear alliance? Perhaps we are but we are still putting up a fight and we will fight until we have resources to do so. Are we going to lose this fight? Perhaps we are but we will go down proudly defending our home, outnumbered and outgunned against a much tougher enemy. That is why we stand proud, we are care-bears with guns and our morale is high, you can break our ships but you can't break our spirits. I salute to DMC and friends, we are putting up a fight, let's go down in a fight if we have to! U sir have watched Independance Day way too much
Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.13 17:13:00 - [9] Originally by: Ralek Talen Originally by: Daroh Originally by: Zorland I see.... Did you give them back 4 motherships and 30 bil ISK they paid for protection ? DMC backstabbed us when made a strike on our friends. They did it first and i rly dont know what they we thinking about. We dont sell friends and we dont buy friends. The only friend of RA can be the friends that helped us in battle, in a hard time. That is the real friend. Did they think that we can sell friends? What would you said then, if we wont help Ka-Tet, dear troll? RA backstab old friends for 4 MS? stfu and fight for your soul What he is trying to say is, it is okay for you (DMC) to be attacked by a RA friend (friend that paid 30bil to do so) But where you (DMC) went wrong was with the counter attack. Scary what the EVE world is headed for with RA getting strong. Why is everyone keeps talking about the 30 bil from ka-tet? The guys who posted about this first edited his post and said they were not paid in the end.
Taison Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2008.01.13 19:35:00 - [10] Originally by: Almid Originally by: Razin Originally by: Lenaria Edited by: Lenaria on 13/01/2008 09:21:57 Originally by: Mutant RA hint to DMC: free selling titans on market it's not good idea (private talk with DMC leadership). Sell MS' and will be happy. Use titans by self or sell to allies, RA make a first offer: 50 bil (we like a chaffer :) And so what, we see free WTA: titans buyout 130 bil. The forecast of summer prices: 60-80 bil. DMC want to be the best titans seller in EVE, gl guys... P.S. Pay all yr money to war (merc or so), this is better idea ;) OMG, i was right in my suspictions. Selling titans to highest bidder = bad. P.S. The thing is RA dont really need Titans at any price above its mineral cost - they build Titans themselfes. RA main concern seems what DMC building 2 titans a month and then selling them left and right to highest bidder (dont tell me what DMC can absorb 2 titans a month just for themselfes) - would strengsten RA's enemies or even "friends" such as RK/SMASH. In my personal opinion this is the main reason (among several) for what is happening. It's interesting that notwithstanding all the DMC's whining and hysterics, the obvious answer that it was their greed that destroyed them will eventually come out as the clearest explanation. But XiX wasn't greedy trying to scam a titan and then whining about it when a GM fixed the problem? Nice spin dude.... Like the thread about the titan scam was created by the seller DMC actually and u can find the statement from RA-XIX on page 3, just stating how they see it, after tons of accusations thrown at them. But hey - its still a whine by RA and they are the fools. Nice spin really. U should become the next president in the US. They are good at this stuff

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