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Lars Lodar
Caldari
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:44:00 -
[31]
Great victory guys.
I'm sure Mustis and Ren are sad they didn't log on.
If you ever need any backup, I'm on your public channel.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:46:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
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doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:53:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
rofl
what I just heard was "we had every advantage, we got gutted, and that's just not right, so... you guys suck"
This is far from epic, and even I doubt its post-worthiness (sorry kessah :P), but your tears are just so damned delicious. I can't get enough.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:57:00 -
[34]
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
rofl
what I just heard was "we had every advantage, we got gutted, and that's just not right, so... you guys suck"
This is far from epic, and even I doubt its post-worthiness (sorry kessah :P), but your tears are just so damned delicious. I can't get enough.
Your name reflects your posts pretty accurately.
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Viper ShizzIe
Applied Eugenics
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Posted - 2008.01.14 05:34:00 -
[35]
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 14/01/2008 05:05:37
Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 14/01/2008 04:59:35
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
rofl
what I just heard was "we had every advantage, we got gutted, and that's just not right, so... you guys suck"
This is far from epic, and even I doubt its post-worthiness (sorry kessah :P), but your tears are just so damned delicious. I can't get enough.
edit:
oh, and I checked out your setups as advised; the triple shield boost amp raven, along with the missile megathron with 2 empty midslots, and the logistics battleships, are indeed something I shall try to learn from. Er... wait...
(in all fairness, lol @ atmos' dominix setup)
double edit:
if we accept your figure of 13 vs 14 as being accurate (it's not, based on our loss mails, but whatever), you still had a 10:6 battleship advantage, sentries *and* ECM (plus a purely hillarious attempt at logistics). Your failure to capitalize on having EVERY advantage possible short of a doomsday is not to our discredit.
Aren't you ex-AXE?
I think I remember kicking you off your own alliance's teamspeak for being a complete ******* ******. Also: you really need to stop posting, it makes you look like more of an idiot then you really are, however hard that may be.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.14 05:39:00 -
[36]
Originally by: doctorstupid2
double edit:
if we accept your figure of 13 vs 14 as being accurate (it's not, based on our loss mails, but whatever), you still had a 10:6 battleship advantage, sentries *and* ECM (plus a purely hillarious attempt at logistics). Your failure to capitalize on having EVERY advantage possible short of a doomsday is not to our discredit.
You still don't quite get it, but unfortunately you may never get it because simply you did not have anything to do with the fight. And with that said, why do you honestly persist to argue with me on the subject.
Simple mathematics would imply the following, 9 battleships + 3 cruisers, a recon vs. 6 battleships and 8 battlecruisers/hacs, as a pretty even battle, now thanks to the early arrivals and jump in's of 3 battleship pilots without the full support of the rest of the gang resulted in the reduction of 3 battleship pilots equaling 6 battleships + 3 cruisers, a recon vs. 6 battleships and 8 battlecruisers/hacs. Now reduce the ecm advantage early on and you simply have 6 battleships, 2 cruisers vs. probably at this time, 5 battleships and 8 battlecruisers and hacs.
Now, referring to Kesseh's original post, since when did 8 battlecruisers/hacs qualify as light support?
But anyways I will paint this battle out to something that maybe you would like to imagine, doctorstupid, a light gang of blood blind elitist commandos are camping the Litiura gate making short work of even some of the biggest targets that trafficked the area. But much to their knowledge, there was a growing threat on the horizon, a gang which heavily outnumbered the small elite squad as close to 2x their size was making its approach.
It was only a short while before the overwhelming and terrifying force made its grand appearance all at once on the scene as their battleship fleet nearly doubled the size of the talented blood blind pilots. Luckily the skill and bravery of said pilots shown through to the end as the small squad easily tanked and decimated the large fleet with very little losses if any. Although the opposing fleet were extremely large, had the advantage of invincible un-counterable ecm that could not be thwarted, and the mighty use of t1 large guns and t1 heavy drones, the blood blind pilot outdid the entire gang because they're just...that...good.
Anyways, Like I said Im not denying the loss nor am I trying to make excuses....just dont try and paint this battle out to be more epic than it really was.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.14 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: kessah on 14/01/2008 09:40:25
yes yes, you were outnumbered we were blobbing thats nice - say what you wish i dont mind, my pilots however had a different account of what happened.
Joking aside remember this, No one forced you to fight us, you thought "pirates on the gate, there easy targets", il even stretch to say dont try to make this out to be less of a fight than it was.
lockeh please 
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Ovek
Gallente
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.14 14:09:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Ovek on 14/01/2008 14:09:34
This certainly isn't historical, perhaps for you but this is quite honestly a normal fight.
Oh and Trepkos who are you hanging around with nowadays?
You should be better than this....
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Gnosis19
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.14 14:16:00 -
[39]
Yar! that is all
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.01.14 18:59:00 -
[40]
Cleaned, please stay civil.
Mitnal,
Community Representative
EVE Online
CCP Games
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:37:00 -
[41]
Good job all that was there, I have to say it was shocking to see on the killboard.
Getting used to these 'outgunned' fights now 
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.14 21:08:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Trepkos on 14/01/2008 21:09:24
Originally by: Ovek
Edited by: Ovek on 14/01/2008 14:09:34
This certainly isn't historical, perhaps for you but this is quite honestly a normal fight.
Oh and Trepkos who are you hanging around with nowadays?
You should be better than this....
Just a couple of local anti-pirates who happened to have a pretty unsuccessful engagement that night.
It was Tarin Adur's fault though, I tried to explain the differences between flying a taranis and a dominix and he just wouldn't listen.
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 01:00:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Trepkos
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
Ahh the sweet joy of hugging high sec gates then being able to jump out at the first sign of trouble 
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 02:29:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 02:32:22
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Trepkos
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
Ahh the sweet joy of hugging high sec gates then being able to jump out at the first sign of trouble
I would be seriously offended if it was coming from any other person from any other corp from any other alliance other than you, in your corp, in your alliance.
By the way, wouldn't the first sign of trouble be when I noticed my gang around me being slaughtered?
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 03:40:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Trepkos
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 02:32:22
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Trepkos
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
Ahh the sweet joy of hugging high sec gates then being able to jump out at the first sign of trouble
I would be seriously offended if it was coming from any other person from any other corp from any other alliance other than you, in your corp, in your alliance.
By the way, wouldn't the first sign of trouble be when I noticed my gang around me being slaughtered?
Lol take it ezy man.
Its all good. Keep doing what you do dude, keeps things moderatly entertaining
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 03:47:00 -
[46]
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Trepkos
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 02:32:22
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Trepkos
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
Ahh the sweet joy of hugging high sec gates then being able to jump out at the first sign of trouble
I would be seriously offended if it was coming from any other person from any other corp from any other alliance other than you, in your corp, in your alliance.
By the way, wouldn't the first sign of trouble be when I noticed my gang around me being slaughtered?
Lol take it ezy man.
Its all good. Keep doing what you do dude, keeps things moderatly entertaining
I am a very angry muppet! >.<
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Altai Saker
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.01.15 04:07:00 -
[47]
This is worth a post?
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 04:48:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Altai Saker
This is worth a post?
lol, self contradiction at its best.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2008.01.15 05:33:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
Trepkos had one too many beers and the organization was off. I assure you, Blood Blind, they would have taken you to bits if organized.
Btw tarin that velator fit was crap :( You need to fit at least 2 75mm rails w/ spike, a racial ecm and a magstab with 2 Hobgobs. Then you would have taken some people to pieces.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 05:39:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 05:44:20
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 05:43:44
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Trepkos had one too many beers and the organization was off. I assure you, Blood Blind, they would have taken you to bits if organized.
Btw tarin that velator fit was crap :( You need to fit at least 2 75mm rails w/ spike, a racial ecm and a magstab with 2 Hobgobs. Then you would have taken some people to pieces.
I wasn't FC. Or I would have made us all jump into empire. 
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 06:59:00 -
[51]
Yes if we were highly organized, the battle would have turned out like this.
Linkage
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 09:28:00 -
[52]
Cabalistical Technologies
Im sure you would have killed us all and our alts and prolly the stations we stay at aswell, but you didnt and reguardless of circumstances, drunken FC's logging etc etc it happened, you lost this one.
If you want to make it personal, you know where we are. Though theres one lesson ive learnt in eve, Soon as you make it personal, its going to hurt alot more if you lose.
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Xoria Krint
Chillout Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.15 11:59:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Trepkos
I am a very angry muppet! >.<
You know I love when you get angry!
GO TREPKOS!
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Gnosis19
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 14:20:00 -
[54]
mmmm drama with a splash of victory. figured Id throw a log on the fire lol
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 14:46:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 14:49:13
Originally by: kessah
Cabalistical Technologies
Im sure you would have killed us all and our alts and prolly the stations we stay at aswell, but you didnt and reguardless of circumstances, drunken FC's logging etc etc it happened, you lost this one.
If you want to make it personal, you know where we are. Though theres one lesson ive learnt in eve, Soon as you make it personal, its going to hurt alot more if you lose.
Is this your way of calling out a 2 man corporation?
Drunken FC's? Logging? No offense Kessah but do you honestly even read anything I post or do you just imagine what you would like me to post and you construct a reply on that. I don't think theres any reply on here claiming that we won the fight nor if there a reply from me on here blaming the loss on drunken FC/logging and neither is there a reply on here bragging about my corp's amount of kills on your alliance.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 17:24:00 -
[56]
All i posted was a thread that imho warranted some public attention- whether you believe it did or it didnt isnt my concern, nor is it (from what ive read from your corp and friends) how ive been lambasted for what i have posted.
-from what i can tell this forum is Crime and Punishment so if you try and set a good example perhaps this could have been a 'gf' post instead of a 'your a bunch of big pink girls' post.
You didnt have to post, like you didnt have to engage our forces (you could have stayed in a nice safe high sec system), i didnt disrespect you or your members, so the question really is have you read my thread? -seems the bad decisions made during that night seem to be repeating...
Im curious to know though how your point could be further iterated by repeating your excuses 3+ times in one thread?
I look forward to reading the next post.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 17:50:00 -
[57]
Originally by: kessah
Im curious to know though how your point could be further iterated by repeating your excuses 3+ times in one thread?
I look forward to reading the next post.
Well I am extremely sorry for shedding my own personal light on a battle that it seems only the ones who didn't participate from your side insists on arguing with me against. And by shedding some light I just highlighted several facts that played a part in the battle and ultimately us losing it. Am I denying that we lost the battle? No. Am I explaining how we lost, what elements contributed to the losing factor? Yes. Who wants to argue with me on those points? Everyone who wasn't involved.
Oh and maybe I wouldn't have to repeat my "excuses" if your alliance members wouldn't continuely try to circumvent them in their "Praise and worship us" thread. But by all means, please continue your klepto-esque posting.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 18:03:00 -
[58]
Klepto type posting would mean that i was spamming crap and either
A) lying about what happened (which i havnt, your truths are exactly that, yours)
B) Boosting about killing nubs, that one is open for debate on your part i guess.
Secondly the fact you spammed your excuses several times and my pilots 'circumventing' those excuses, should in no way diminish there right to invoke what happened just as you have.
Finally your continued attempt to keep this thread bumped doesnt bold well, ive tried to have it locked because clearly you do not wish to play nice.
Dont ever call associate me with kleptomaniacs, EVER, im a reasonable player, il take on board the thoughts and feelings of others and i will always primarily stand of with respect until shown otherwise.
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Mustis'the'Horror
Amarr
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 20:04:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Lars Lodar
Great victory guys.
I'm sure Mustis and Ren are sad they didn't log on.
If you ever need any backup, I'm on your public channel.
Yes, my rifter definitely would have sealed Cabalistical Technologies' fate.
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Yonneh
Death of Virtue
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.15 22:35:00 -
[60]
Rabble.
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