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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 20:55:00 -
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I log on today and find out Blood Blind had an historically succesful victory last night.
I think this explains it all.
Very good fight it seems and id like to extend my condolences and gratitude to Cabalistical Technologies and company.
Im gobsmacked at the fight tbh, 10 battleships + falcon/bb vs 6 battleships no ecm and little support.
I further extend a big pat on the back to Di Canio for some awesome Fleet Command. Well done all.
Seems ECCM does work 
Lambast me all you wish for giving you this post, but i am personally very impressed with such an astonishing victory.
-10 all the way 
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.01.12 21:02:00 -
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I call shenanigans. You won with no ECM and the deimos didn't die  
 Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Thread now lacks an OP but the memories will live on.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
I call shenanigans. You won with no ECM and the deimos didn't die
yeh i would have primaried that sucka myself, but seems they did a bloody good job anyways.
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Gnosis19
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 21:20:00 -
[4]
Missed out on this one, but helluv a job fellas! Yar!
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doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2008.01.12 21:29:00 -
[5]
dammit. that'll teach me to use jumpclones 
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Eardianm
Darkness Inc.
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 21:48:00 -
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I was gonna log on last night too 
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RobbehT
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: RobbehT on 12/01/2008 22:50:02
Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Stakhanov
I call shenanigans. You won with no ECM and the deimos didn't die
yeh i would have primaried that sucka myself, but seems they did a bloody good job anyways.
The Deimos pilot was in a battleship to start off with and lost that then came back in another battleship and got popped again and then came back in his Hac at the end of the engagement which ran off as the rest of his buddies died.
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Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 22:56:00 -
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Nice looking fight, a bit jealous I wasnt there tbfh.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: RobbehT
Edited by: RobbehT on 12/01/2008 22:50:02
Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Stakhanov
I call shenanigans. You won with no ECM and the deimos didn't die
yeh i would have primaried that sucka myself, but seems they did a bloody good job anyways.
The Deimos pilot was in a battleship to start off with and lost that then came back in another battleship and got popped again and then came back in his Hac at the end of the engagement which ran off as the rest of his buddies died.
quiet you! get back in your cage!
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RobbehT
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 23:18:00 -
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Don't you start with me boyo!
just because your a raging homosexual that obviously has a thing for me doesn't mean you have to take your sexual frustration out on others! 
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ANGRY23
Caldari
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 23:19:00 -
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OhMannnnn!!!!! i woke up at 7am at a ninja 6 jumps away. Beers and Maddog 20/20 FTW
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.12 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: RobbehT
Don't you start with me boyo!
just because your a raging homosexual that obviously has a thing for me doesn't mean you have to take your sexual frustration out on others!
secrets out now 
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Kain De'Stroi
Epic.
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Posted - 2008.01.12 23:57:00 -
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nice to se you got a new killboard, i like this one much better then griefwatch,
and congrats on a nice fight,
im not supprised tho, always knew you had the skills to fight against the odds 
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tarin adur
Gallente
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.13 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: tarin adur on 13/01/2008 01:34:31
Think you might wanna look at that board again kessah,the 2 caracals,moa,mauler,cormorant,megathron and badger werent in our gang so it was more like 10 vs 14, secondly 1 of your geddons didnt post his lossmail
http://angeldeep.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=2465
Add to that,the other geddon jumped into high sec to avoid getting killed, and the fight suddenly comes out alot fairer eh?(BTW,not sure if it was that other geddon pilot,but i saw a Blood Corsairs amarr BS Wreck in litiura)
Still,Good fight to you guys,hoping next time i'l survive until i load the grid =)
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doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2008.01.13 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 13/01/2008 01:42:19
Originally by: tarin adur
... it was more like 10 vs 14 ...
they certainly made it onto an awful lot of abuse killmails for not being in the fight, dont ya think?
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.01.13 01:48:00 -
[16]
looks like a fun fight....
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.13 03:33:00 -
[17]
Edited by: Trepkos on 13/01/2008 03:33:13
Posting in a epic victory thread.
Actually, I was looking for this thread, was kind of expecting it to have a title similar to this, "Anti-Pirate Blob Thwarted!"
Short battle report from my point of view, highlighting details that would ultimately lead up to the failure.
I am not here to twist facts or spin the situation. What I saw last night was nothing less than a failure in its most raw and disgusting state. It was an utter disappointment and just a general sad state of affairs which I hope will never be displayed ever again from our part.
Very rarely do I ever see a gang of Blood Blind pirates with the numbers and lack of ECM where we could actively engage without a promising slaughter until last night. A fairly small gang of Blood Blind pirates(by their own standards) made a very routinely trip to Passari to camp the Litiura gate. Their smaller-size and lack of ECM which they heavily use if not depend on triggered a response from local anti-pirate figureheads in the area. Immediately a gang was formed up of the following:
Hyperion, Raven, Raven, Domi, Domi, Rokh, Rokh, Falcon, Caracal, Maller, Blackbird, Megathron, and Typhoon.
Against a fairly support(mainly bc's/hac) heavy gang of blood blind pirates. So how could one lose against a gang of that size with a gang of our size which was mainly battleship heavy? Well the following would best explain what issues we suffered from in the fight.
1.) Lack of organization/communication - Our gang's members entered the battle at different points throughout the beginning of the fight. The first entrances being made by Drago, Ethn, and angeleyes jumping from Litiura....with two others(Me and Tarin) already in Passari arriving shortly after them and the larger amount of the gang coming in last from Mara. This resulted in the Blood Blind gang being able to effeciently focus fire while under very little opposing fire and essentially downing three of our battleships within 2 minutes of the fight.
2.) Lag - One the first pilots to die did not even load grid, others had hard times activating modules, desynching and/or loading damage to their ship.
Both of the above problems resulted in a large amount and most of our gang dps being handicapped early on in the fight. One might argue, "Why have the entrances so random?" Well I guess we underestimated the firepower of the opposing gang and the beginning ships were running active tanks where the repairers could not keep up with the amount of damage they were taking.
From that point forward it was mainly a slugfest with their gang having the ability to kill us quicker than we had the ability to kill them. So slowly but surely, our gang was losing more and more ships which resulted in less and less dps on targets. Now one might say "Well if you were getting your butts kicked so badly, why continue to get slaughtered and not try to regroup, retreat and try again?", to that I would respond, "Good question."
We were ultimately outmatched, though the gangs were fairly even the first few mistakes heavily affected the outcome as we lost 3 battleships within the first minute, heh we lost a battleship before any other gang member arrived on the scene. We underestimated their dps and we also overestimated our ships' abilities to tank them. In some cases we were outmatched just by the type of experience and modules/fitting some of our key gang members had fitted.
We also depended just a little to heavy on our falcon and blackbird's ability to support our gang, that ability which was shortened by a crafty vagabond and raven...
At the last point it was basically two battleships vs. the entire blood blind gang minus 4 bs's and a cruiser.
It was overall a very bad battle for us; I will give Blood Blind credit as much as I hate to  , there are no excuses just mistakes that we can try our best to iron out but the damage has been done and there is no reversing the embarassment.
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2008.01.13 03:40:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 13/01/2008 03:41:29
Originally by: Stakhanov
I call shenanigans. You won with no ECM and the deimos didn't die
Omg, the diemost didn't get to die? ;(
Think of the poor T2 manufacturers. You have to kill Deimoses ;P
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Hebik Fane
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.13 04:19:00 -
[19]
Unfortunately no banjos were recovered after the fight, so the operation was only a partial success
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Nolene
War Crimes
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Posted - 2008.01.13 05:57:00 -
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Sounds like it was a good fight. But are you serious? "...Blood Blind had an historically succesful victory last night" Was this fight really that epic? Is this the defining battle of your corporation? You have done what many corporations/alliances do daily...fight out numbered and out gunned and succeed. Hardly the achievment your making it out to be, but regardless, congrats on the fight and the victory. Perhaps next time you might consider being a tad more gracious in your success.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.13 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nolene
Sounds like it was a good fight. But are you serious? "...Blood Blind had an historically succesful victory last night" Was this fight really that epic? Is this the defining battle of your corporation? You have done what many corporations/alliances do daily...fight out numbered and out gunned and succeed. Hardly the achievment your making it out to be, but regardless, congrats on the fight and the victory. Perhaps next time you might consider being a tad more gracious in your success.
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
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Niffetin
Gallente
CONsordium Infinate
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Posted - 2008.01.13 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nolene
Sounds like it was a good fight. But are you serious? "...Blood Blind had an historically succesful victory last night" Was this fight really that epic? Is this the defining battle of your corporation? You have done what many corporations/alliances do daily...fight out numbered and out gunned and succeed. Hardly the achievment your making it out to be, but regardless, congrats on the fight and the victory. Perhaps next time you might consider being a tad more gracious in your success.
He is just an attention *****.
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Lucius Cain
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.13 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: tarin adur
Add to that,the other geddon jumped into high sec to avoid getting killed, and the fight suddenly comes out alot fairer eh?(BTW,not sure if it was that other geddon pilot,but i saw a Blood Corsairs amarr BS Wreck in litiura)
I'd like to point out, that this is exactly the same as what your Hyperion pilot did.
But I agree with Trepko's post, pretty accurate account of the battle. From my point of view, it all came down to the other part being too poorly organized. But hats off to you guys for going in balls first
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Di Canio
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.13 14:39:00 -
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lol at a thread about a battle that I was FC in.
This time next week Di Canio fans I will b at Oxford street doing a book signing at virgin mega store,of my autobiography
'Di canio : The man,The myth, The Enigma' wtih foreword by Nelson Mandela . My single ( a cover version of Tina Turners "Simply the Best") will also be available in most retail outlets.
seriously tho, gf all involved its amazing the difference organisation makes.
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Draghkar
Minmatar
Pastry Coalition
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.13 14:46:00 -
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kessah your my hero. You can now call me fanboy
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.13 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lucius Cain
I'd like to point out, that this is exactly the same as what your Hyperion pilot did.
I would like to point out that there is a pretty big difference between jumping out and dying to concord to deny your enemy a killmail compared to jumping out to save your ship.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.13 21:20:00 -
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Well this was a fun thread.
Lots to reply to but im not going to, because replying to any would be like sticking my balls in a vice and asking angry truckers to flick them with elasticated tow cables while my nipples were repeatedly electricuted...
...sure that *sounds* fun, but somehow it just isnt my way to spend a sunday night.
il go for the next best thing and have the thread locked due to people not playing nice.
Mr mods please take all the enjoyment you want from locking yet another C&P thread... damn you guys have it hard!
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Cikulisuy
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Posted - 2008.01.14 02:03:00 -
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GFs all around guys, thanks to the cabal fellows for providing some excitement in an otherwise boring night. kudos to di canio for his excellent FCing, i couldnt believe we won that one actually, i was just orbiting at 25km out with my heavy pulse zealot, scorches loaded, trying to dodge f900s raven and the rokh pilots
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doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: Lucius Cain
I'd like to point out, that this is exactly the same as what your Hyperion pilot did.
I would like to point out that there is a pretty big difference between jumping out and dying to concord to deny your enemy a killmail compared to jumping out to save your ship.
It's quite possible he was unaware his back was to a highsec gate, and thought he was jumping out to save his ship. I've done that, too 
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doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
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Lars Lodar
Caldari
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:44:00 -
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Great victory guys.
I'm sure Mustis and Ren are sad they didn't log on.
If you ever need any backup, I'm on your public channel.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:46:00 -
[32]
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
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doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
rofl
what I just heard was "we had every advantage, we got gutted, and that's just not right, so... you guys suck"
This is far from epic, and even I doubt its post-worthiness (sorry kessah :P), but your tears are just so damned delicious. I can't get enough.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
rofl
what I just heard was "we had every advantage, we got gutted, and that's just not right, so... you guys suck"
This is far from epic, and even I doubt its post-worthiness (sorry kessah :P), but your tears are just so damned delicious. I can't get enough.
Your name reflects your posts pretty accurately.
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Viper ShizzIe
Applied Eugenics
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Posted - 2008.01.14 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2
Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 14/01/2008 05:05:37
Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 14/01/2008 04:59:35
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
rofl
what I just heard was "we had every advantage, we got gutted, and that's just not right, so... you guys suck"
This is far from epic, and even I doubt its post-worthiness (sorry kessah :P), but your tears are just so damned delicious. I can't get enough.
edit:
oh, and I checked out your setups as advised; the triple shield boost amp raven, along with the missile megathron with 2 empty midslots, and the logistics battleships, are indeed something I shall try to learn from. Er... wait...
(in all fairness, lol @ atmos' dominix setup)
double edit:
if we accept your figure of 13 vs 14 as being accurate (it's not, based on our loss mails, but whatever), you still had a 10:6 battleship advantage, sentries *and* ECM (plus a purely hillarious attempt at logistics). Your failure to capitalize on having EVERY advantage possible short of a doomsday is not to our discredit.
Aren't you ex-AXE?
I think I remember kicking you off your own alliance's teamspeak for being a complete ******* ******. Also: you really need to stop posting, it makes you look like more of an idiot then you really are, however hard that may be.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.14 05:39:00 -
[36]
Originally by: doctorstupid2
double edit:
if we accept your figure of 13 vs 14 as being accurate (it's not, based on our loss mails, but whatever), you still had a 10:6 battleship advantage, sentries *and* ECM (plus a purely hillarious attempt at logistics). Your failure to capitalize on having EVERY advantage possible short of a doomsday is not to our discredit.
You still don't quite get it, but unfortunately you may never get it because simply you did not have anything to do with the fight. And with that said, why do you honestly persist to argue with me on the subject.
Simple mathematics would imply the following, 9 battleships + 3 cruisers, a recon vs. 6 battleships and 8 battlecruisers/hacs, as a pretty even battle, now thanks to the early arrivals and jump in's of 3 battleship pilots without the full support of the rest of the gang resulted in the reduction of 3 battleship pilots equaling 6 battleships + 3 cruisers, a recon vs. 6 battleships and 8 battlecruisers/hacs. Now reduce the ecm advantage early on and you simply have 6 battleships, 2 cruisers vs. probably at this time, 5 battleships and 8 battlecruisers and hacs.
Now, referring to Kesseh's original post, since when did 8 battlecruisers/hacs qualify as light support?
But anyways I will paint this battle out to something that maybe you would like to imagine, doctorstupid, a light gang of blood blind elitist commandos are camping the Litiura gate making short work of even some of the biggest targets that trafficked the area. But much to their knowledge, there was a growing threat on the horizon, a gang which heavily outnumbered the small elite squad as close to 2x their size was making its approach.
It was only a short while before the overwhelming and terrifying force made its grand appearance all at once on the scene as their battleship fleet nearly doubled the size of the talented blood blind pilots. Luckily the skill and bravery of said pilots shown through to the end as the small squad easily tanked and decimated the large fleet with very little losses if any. Although the opposing fleet were extremely large, had the advantage of invincible un-counterable ecm that could not be thwarted, and the mighty use of t1 large guns and t1 heavy drones, the blood blind pilot outdid the entire gang because they're just...that...good.
Anyways, Like I said Im not denying the loss nor am I trying to make excuses....just dont try and paint this battle out to be more epic than it really was.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.14 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: kessah on 14/01/2008 09:40:25
yes yes, you were outnumbered we were blobbing thats nice - say what you wish i dont mind, my pilots however had a different account of what happened.
Joking aside remember this, No one forced you to fight us, you thought "pirates on the gate, there easy targets", il even stretch to say dont try to make this out to be less of a fight than it was.
lockeh please 
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Ovek
Gallente
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.14 14:09:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Ovek on 14/01/2008 14:09:34
This certainly isn't historical, perhaps for you but this is quite honestly a normal fight.
Oh and Trepkos who are you hanging around with nowadays?
You should be better than this....
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Gnosis19
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.14 14:16:00 -
[39]
Yar! that is all
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.01.14 18:59:00 -
[40]
Cleaned, please stay civil.
Mitnal,
Community Representative
EVE Online
CCP Games
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:37:00 -
[41]
Good job all that was there, I have to say it was shocking to see on the killboard.
Getting used to these 'outgunned' fights now 
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.14 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Trepkos on 14/01/2008 21:09:24
Originally by: Ovek
Edited by: Ovek on 14/01/2008 14:09:34
This certainly isn't historical, perhaps for you but this is quite honestly a normal fight.
Oh and Trepkos who are you hanging around with nowadays?
You should be better than this....
Just a couple of local anti-pirates who happened to have a pretty unsuccessful engagement that night.
It was Tarin Adur's fault though, I tried to explain the differences between flying a taranis and a dominix and he just wouldn't listen.
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 01:00:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Trepkos
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
Ahh the sweet joy of hugging high sec gates then being able to jump out at the first sign of trouble
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 02:29:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 02:32:22
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Trepkos
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
Ahh the sweet joy of hugging high sec gates then being able to jump out at the first sign of trouble
I would be seriously offended if it was coming from any other person from any other corp from any other alliance other than you, in your corp, in your alliance.
By the way, wouldn't the first sign of trouble be when I noticed my gang around me being slaughtered?
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 03:40:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Trepkos
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 02:32:22
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Trepkos
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
Ahh the sweet joy of hugging high sec gates then being able to jump out at the first sign of trouble
I would be seriously offended if it was coming from any other person from any other corp from any other alliance other than you, in your corp, in your alliance.
By the way, wouldn't the first sign of trouble be when I noticed my gang around me being slaughtered?
Lol take it ezy man.
Its all good. Keep doing what you do dude, keeps things moderatly entertaining
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 03:47:00 -
[46]
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Trepkos
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 02:32:22
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Trepkos
I managed to save myself though. Which makes my personal score, Trepkos - 6, Blood Blind - 1
Ahh the sweet joy of hugging high sec gates then being able to jump out at the first sign of trouble
I would be seriously offended if it was coming from any other person from any other corp from any other alliance other than you, in your corp, in your alliance.
By the way, wouldn't the first sign of trouble be when I noticed my gang around me being slaughtered?
Lol take it ezy man.
Its all good. Keep doing what you do dude, keeps things moderatly entertaining
I am a very angry muppet! >.<
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Altai Saker
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.01.15 04:07:00 -
[47]
This is worth a post?
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 04:48:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Altai Saker
This is worth a post?
lol, self contradiction at its best.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2008.01.15 05:33:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Trepkos
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Trepkos
Trust me, they didn't fight outnumbered and definitely not outgunned.
14 vs 20 + sentries isn't out-numbered? your 10 battleships + 2 jammers to abuses's 6 + 0 jammers isn't out-gunned? lol?
14 vs. 20? Are you kidding?
Don't you mean 13 vs. 14?
Heh, 20 + sentries doesn't even show up on your kill board's battle summary, according to the battle summary it includes the 2 sentry guns and billboard as part of the 20. Also the badger, cormorant, caracal, and moa didn't participate in the fight and also dare I not include the fact that there is one guy that participated in the fight in three different ships? How is that possible?
Well maybe if you weren't busy playing arm-chair commander and based your argument on something like maybe actually participating in the fight instead of looking over your kill board's battle summary you might understand that despite the fairly equal numbers we were heavily out gunned and outmatched.
And also thanks to the fun case of random intervals of jump/warp-ins, it can be safely assured that you didn't even face our entire gang within the same time range. And sentry guns? Unless I recall the sentry guns following our target calling procedures which they definitely weren't they weren't very helpful either.
So don't try to twist this into some epic victory where you managed to engage and slaughter a gang that outnumbered you greatly when it was basically the fact that the blood blind gang capitalized upon the disorganization and poor coordination of our gang. And if you would like to dig deeper into the engagement, maybe do a little bit of analyzing of our ship setups in comparison to the Blood Blind setups.
Trepkos had one too many beers and the organization was off. I assure you, Blood Blind, they would have taken you to bits if organized.
Btw tarin that velator fit was crap :( You need to fit at least 2 75mm rails w/ spike, a racial ecm and a magstab with 2 Hobgobs. Then you would have taken some people to pieces.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 05:39:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 05:44:20
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 05:43:44
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Trepkos had one too many beers and the organization was off. I assure you, Blood Blind, they would have taken you to bits if organized.
Btw tarin that velator fit was crap :( You need to fit at least 2 75mm rails w/ spike, a racial ecm and a magstab with 2 Hobgobs. Then you would have taken some people to pieces.
I wasn't FC. Or I would have made us all jump into empire. 
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 06:59:00 -
[51]
Yes if we were highly organized, the battle would have turned out like this.
Linkage
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 09:28:00 -
[52]
Cabalistical Technologies
Im sure you would have killed us all and our alts and prolly the stations we stay at aswell, but you didnt and reguardless of circumstances, drunken FC's logging etc etc it happened, you lost this one.
If you want to make it personal, you know where we are. Though theres one lesson ive learnt in eve, Soon as you make it personal, its going to hurt alot more if you lose.
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Xoria Krint
Chillout Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.15 11:59:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Trepkos
I am a very angry muppet! >.<
You know I love when you get angry!
GO TREPKOS!
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Gnosis19
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 14:20:00 -
[54]
mmmm drama with a splash of victory. figured Id throw a log on the fire lol
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 14:46:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Trepkos on 15/01/2008 14:49:13
Originally by: kessah
Cabalistical Technologies
Im sure you would have killed us all and our alts and prolly the stations we stay at aswell, but you didnt and reguardless of circumstances, drunken FC's logging etc etc it happened, you lost this one.
If you want to make it personal, you know where we are. Though theres one lesson ive learnt in eve, Soon as you make it personal, its going to hurt alot more if you lose.
Is this your way of calling out a 2 man corporation?
Drunken FC's? Logging? No offense Kessah but do you honestly even read anything I post or do you just imagine what you would like me to post and you construct a reply on that. I don't think theres any reply on here claiming that we won the fight nor if there a reply from me on here blaming the loss on drunken FC/logging and neither is there a reply on here bragging about my corp's amount of kills on your alliance.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 17:24:00 -
[56]
All i posted was a thread that imho warranted some public attention- whether you believe it did or it didnt isnt my concern, nor is it (from what ive read from your corp and friends) how ive been lambasted for what i have posted.
-from what i can tell this forum is Crime and Punishment so if you try and set a good example perhaps this could have been a 'gf' post instead of a 'your a bunch of big pink girls' post.
You didnt have to post, like you didnt have to engage our forces (you could have stayed in a nice safe high sec system), i didnt disrespect you or your members, so the question really is have you read my thread? -seems the bad decisions made during that night seem to be repeating...
Im curious to know though how your point could be further iterated by repeating your excuses 3+ times in one thread?
I look forward to reading the next post.
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Trepkos
Cabalistical Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.15 17:50:00 -
[57]
Originally by: kessah
Im curious to know though how your point could be further iterated by repeating your excuses 3+ times in one thread?
I look forward to reading the next post.
Well I am extremely sorry for shedding my own personal light on a battle that it seems only the ones who didn't participate from your side insists on arguing with me against. And by shedding some light I just highlighted several facts that played a part in the battle and ultimately us losing it. Am I denying that we lost the battle? No. Am I explaining how we lost, what elements contributed to the losing factor? Yes. Who wants to argue with me on those points? Everyone who wasn't involved.
Oh and maybe I wouldn't have to repeat my "excuses" if your alliance members wouldn't continuely try to circumvent them in their "Praise and worship us" thread. But by all means, please continue your klepto-esque posting.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 18:03:00 -
[58]
Klepto type posting would mean that i was spamming crap and either
A) lying about what happened (which i havnt, your truths are exactly that, yours)
B) Boosting about killing nubs, that one is open for debate on your part i guess.
Secondly the fact you spammed your excuses several times and my pilots 'circumventing' those excuses, should in no way diminish there right to invoke what happened just as you have.
Finally your continued attempt to keep this thread bumped doesnt bold well, ive tried to have it locked because clearly you do not wish to play nice.
Dont ever call associate me with kleptomaniacs, EVER, im a reasonable player, il take on board the thoughts and feelings of others and i will always primarily stand of with respect until shown otherwise.
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Mustis'the'Horror
Amarr
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.15 20:04:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Lars Lodar
Great victory guys.
I'm sure Mustis and Ren are sad they didn't log on.
If you ever need any backup, I'm on your public channel.
Yes, my rifter definitely would have sealed Cabalistical Technologies' fate.
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Yonneh
Death of Virtue
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.15 22:35:00 -
[60]
Rabble.
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Trepkos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.16 04:53:00 -
[61]
Originally by: kessah
Klepto type posting would mean that i was spamming crap and either
A) lying about what happened (which i havnt, your truths are exactly that, yours)
B) Boosting about killing nubs, that one is open for debate on your part i guess.
Secondly the fact you spammed your excuses several times and my pilots 'circumventing' those excuses, should in no way diminish there right to invoke what happened just as you have.
Finally your continued attempt to keep this thread bumped doesnt bold well, ive tried to have it locked because clearly you do not wish to play nice.
Dont ever call associate me with kleptomaniacs, EVER, im a reasonable player, il take on board the thoughts and feelings of others and i will always primarily stand of with respect until shown otherwise.
Petty name-calling aside, my reply started off as merely a bit of correctional information and my own account as well as facts, not mere "truths", but pure facts as to what had happened in the battle leading up to our defeat. These facts not only come from my own personal experience, which in case holds more weight than any other opposing viewpoint which has brought an argument against me, but also analytical data and observations I made from the footage that I had taken from the fight.
Did I do all this just because I wanted to shoot down your victory or belittle your alliance? No. I did it because it is not everyday that I fly in a gang that gets ultimately slaughtered and embarrassed to the highest degree, so I would like to further research the root of the defeat and improve upon it in future engagements.
The problem comes with pilots who had no real participation in the battle begin to either reply, or even post topics about the battle without the proper knowledge to do so, in such case as you did. So I decided to present the information that I had gathered to add more depth to the story than the OP's "historically epic" glory post which offered no real information and only a kill board battle summary which had its inaccuracies as well.
But you call these excuses? There is no excuse for the defeat, there are facts that when acted together ultimately lead to the defeat. But excuses? Please. And it offends you when I begin to nitpick the fallacies of your argument? Guess how much it offends me when you and your members come to this forum posting inaccuracies and argue with me for stating facts that may have watered down their epic victory just a tad.
I'm not denying you your epic victory, I am merely explaining my side of the story as well as posting facts information to support it.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.16 09:15:00 -
[62]
Trepkos we got it, 4 times now, dont worry about it anymore we DEFINETLY got your side of the story... My guys dont agree, yours dont either tbh i dont care. The loot / killmails do the talking.
end of.
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Drago Musevenii
Live and Let Die Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.01.16 11:07:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Drago Musevenii on 16/01/2008 11:08:29
wow. this thread is very long. I don't really want to read both pages so Gf to all involved. /me tips hat to di canio.
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Joachim Kato
Xenobytes
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Posted - 2008.01.16 12:14:00 -
[64]
I'm not *****in right there and I hold full respect towards Blood Blind, but it's obvious it wasn't such a fight as you see from the first glance:
1. Battle Summary for Passari, 02:17 - 03:42 (don't tell me it took you 1h 25m to pwn em all - meaning there were not 20 of them and not at the same time on the grid, most likely they were rewarping to gate or smth).
2. angeleyess and Tarin Adur = 5 ships, not 2 (possibly more ships on both sides that in one way or the other didn't get into the mails).
P.S. I don't know any of the parties and I posted this only as a neutral observation.
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.01.16 12:41:00 -
[65]
This thread has run its course.
Locked.
Navigator, Community Representative
EVE Online, CCP Games
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