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Hitme Harder
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2008.01.13 23:53:00 -
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So this'll differ from the other RA vs drone region threads in that I just wanna focus on the political maneuvers and not the parties involved.
1) A bunch of alliances create a NAP until conditions are met.
2) When conditions are almost met, some drama happens and one alliance makes a political blunder and allies with enemies of the greater NAP'd alliance, against a member of that greater NAP'd alliance. The reasons for this sound good, but technically a very bad move, breaking the NAP.
3) Diplomacy failing (eve players kinda suck at diplomacy), or simply both parties not being interested in diplomatic resolution, the alliance breaking the NAP is declared KOS. (kill on sight, not knights of suck)
4) Another alliance senses a threat of the NAPs in the entire region falling apart, as NAPs are delicate things that require a diplomatic touch, something that was very clearly not being applied in this happening. This alliance's leader gives a clear warning to the other alliances to keep fleets out of their sovereign space, or it would be considered a hostile act.
5) The following day, the same alliance that declares KOS on the alliance that broke the NAP, has a large fleet in the sovereign space the NAP'd alliance that warned against such a presence.
6) Said alliance says GTFO or we'll attack.
7) Forums engulf in flames saying that 6 was such a huge mistake, stupid, and jump at the idea of declaring their NAP annulled.
Ok, so, we all know which party is which. We all know smashkill and DMC are proper ******. But can we at least get real, be honest for a minute.
Is RA not being an arrogant aggressor here, and is GS not behaving like mindless pets right now?
I know some of you forum *****s are ok with being the badguys of eve, which is good, at least you own up to it. But to those of you in denial, own up to the fact that these actions smack of boblike arrogance and betrayal. ________________________________
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.13 23:54:00 -
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I wandered into this thread. Can you direct me to my overlord. ~~ We've lulled our opponents into a false sense of confidence. Oh, yes. Oh, oh, oh. Everything is going according to plan. Those fools, they think they can win... by winning. |

Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.13 23:56:00 -
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Hitme in all seriousness, what are you wearing right now?
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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Pew Pewk
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Posted - 2008.01.13 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Yussef Hitme in all seriousness, what are you wearing right now?
You read my mind.
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Lucias Trask
Shadows of the Dead The Dawn of Darkness
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Posted - 2008.01.13 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Lucias Trask on 13/01/2008 23:58:24
Originally by: Hitme Harder 3) Diplomacy failing (eve players kinda suck at diplomacy), or simply both parties not being interested in diplomatic resolution, the alliance breaking the NAP is declared KOS. (kill on sight, not knights of suck)
I almost spit diet coke all over my monitors at work. Priceless.
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J'ghathii
Caldari 54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.14 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: J''ghathii on 14/01/2008 01:04:01
Originally by: Hitme Harder I know some of you forum *****s are ok with being the badguys of eve, which is good, at least you own up to it. But to those of you in denial, own up to the fact that these actions smack of boblike arrogance and betrayal.
You know, by far this post has put everything in most perspective. Eve's a game, and we play it for fun. How much fun would it be if all it was was a progress of up and up and up? Not much. Real excitement comes from gain and loss. You can't revel in victory without having tasted defeat.
If RA wants the play the bad guys, sure, cool, let them. At least it shakes the old order up, makes for some interesting pew-pew and gives excitement to the game. I can't agree with the tactics they used to start pew-pew, but its whats expected of the quintessential "Bad Guy".
So as much as my alliance mates might flame me for it, Hats of to RA for providing some very very interesting (albeit at times frustrating!) Pew-Pew and drama to make EVE be about something other then sucking Veld!
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Grainsalt
Free-Corp Foundation Liberty Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.14 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Yussef Hitme in all seriousness, what are you wearing right now?
1 word..
Spandex. ---
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
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laotse
The Flying Dutchmen Antesignani Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.14 01:31:00 -
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ra and a nap think again before you post this http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
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NAFnist
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.14 01:37:00 -
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my friends friends, isnt nessasary my friends, but my friends will remain friends
people get that one mixed up sometimes -
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.14 02:56:00 -
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look at me here in this thread lawl
Please dear god mods dont nerf this sig too its the 6th freakin one ive put up Ok we'll keep this one. ~Saint Who says carebears can't be cute?. Navigator Let me at it, let me at it - Scrappy Doo |

Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.14 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Grainsalt
Originally by: Yussef Hitme in all seriousness, what are you wearing right now?
1 word..
Spandex.
but are the legs shaved or unshaved?
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Louis Lane
Minmatar Imperium Holding corp
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Posted - 2008.01.14 02:59:00 -
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the bob alt expert poaster is strong in this one. you other bob alt poasters should take lessons from him.
In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a body guard of lies.
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Hitme Harder
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2008.01.14 03:05:00 -
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Yes my poasting history shows that I am a BoB sympathizer. ________________________________
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Louis Lane
Minmatar Imperium Holding corp
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Posted - 2008.01.14 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Hitme Harder Yes my poasting history shows that I am a BoB sympathizer.
sorry should have just said the alt poasting is strong in you, typo on my part 
In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a body guard of lies.
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Hitme Harder
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2008.01.14 03:22:00 -
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Yeah maybe one day I'll upgrade to Imperium Holding corp. ________________________________
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Evelgrivion
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.14 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lucias Trask Edited by: Lucias Trask on 13/01/2008 23:58:24
Originally by: Hitme Harder 3) Diplomacy failing (eve players kinda suck at diplomacy), or simply both parties not being interested in diplomatic resolution, the alliance breaking the NAP is declared KOS. (kill on sight, not knights of suck)
I almost spit diet coke all over my monitors at work. Priceless.
  
Over-reaching with political parallels is the new black.
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Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.14 03:42:00 -
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I have absolutely nothing to do with this thread but here I am anyway. Hope this helped!

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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.14 06:00:00 -
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we love behaving like mindless pets if its ra vOv
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Nazdarovie
Minmatar Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.14 11:23:00 -
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RA cant be trusted simple. [IMAGE REMOVED] |

Attack Dog
Caldari Terran Robotics Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.14 13:20:00 -
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John 3:16 ------sig starts here------ Don't be a noob, stop whinning 4 nerf's 2day |

Vaarmoth Malinigvious
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.15 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Louis Lane the bob alt expert poaster is strong in this one. you other bob alt poasters should take lessons from him.
I find the humor of you wearing off. You of a holding corp of a failure of an alliance with a main character in Razor posting about
He's a quarter, go buy a fckin clue.
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.15 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hitme Harder
Is RA not being an arrogant aggressor here, and is GS not behaving like mindless pets right now?
Pretty much.
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Gloomy Gus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.15 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hitme Harder is GS not behaving like mindless pets right now?
I'm sick of this mindless pets bull**** I keep hearing if we were so mindless we couldn't keep thinking up new ways to serve our masters more effectively.
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fewl
Caldari Frontier Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.15 20:30:00 -
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breaking a nap is fine, as long as your much stronger than the person your breaking it with.
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Ichi Hon
Gallente Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.15 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Louis Lane
Originally by: Hitme Harder Yes my poasting history shows that I am a BoB sympathizer.
sorry should have just said the alt poasting is strong in you, typo on my part 
I'd say your issues aren't typographical, but more deep seated and emotional.
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Phelan Driscoll
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.15 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Hitme Harder
Is RA not being an arrogant aggressor here, and is GS not behaving like mindless pets right now? .
deeerp derp derp.
derp.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.01.15 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hitme Harder 3) Diplomacy failing (eve players kinda suck at diplomacy), or simply both parties not being interested in diplomatic resolution, the alliance breaking the NAP is declared KOS. (kill on sight, not knights of suck)
I see what you did there 
well anyways as for you last point, as long as everyone gets to pewpew then its all fun
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.15 22:45:00 -
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Go west! Life is peaceful there!
"Bring back the pain."
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2008.01.15 23:25:00 -
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i hate it when people break my nap. theres this guy that comes in with a leaf blower every saturday morning to clear the leaves off the parking lot of the building next door. he wears ear protection and goes to town. sure enough, nap broken.
one of these days i'm going to go out and shove that thing up his... nose sideways.
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Kiarah
Gallente Janus Pilot Corps
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Posted - 2008.01.16 04:05:00 -
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NAPs are made to be broken. Both sides make them fully intending to break them when the time is right. Its just a question of who becomes "ready" first.
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